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MGS HD Collection Vita screens
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My best guess would be a combination of it being a port (designed for hardware that is extremely different), very few development resources being dedicated to it, and most Japanese developers (and gamers?) generally not giving a shit about IQ.
The main reason for the performance hit of MSAA on most recent platforms is lack of memory bandwidth. The Vita uses a Tile-based Deferred Renderer, rasterizing small tiles of the framebuffer on-chip. So it does not have that hit when enabling hardware MSAA.
I'd still rather have "real" anti-aliasing. The reason I'm excited about FXAA 4 is to put it into PtBi.
BladeoftheImmortal
Member
That's why i just buy all of em. kojima takes my money every fucking gen.
If the iq isn't the same than the ps3 version, that's really lame... I mean MGS ps2 has nowhere near the polys count or textures a Vita can push. That's the kind of details that certainly won't help the Vita right now. Its only clear advantage is its iq. Every game that can handle it should be amazingly sharp and clean.
The same reason you get iPad games being called "Something HD". Seriously, no reason at all.
They are exactly the same, there's only a difference in resolution(obviously ) and in contrast and/or gamma(the vita screenshot is more bright and "flat", but on the vita screen everything is different)
Looks different to me.
Risk Breaker
Member
biggersmaller
Banned
Not as good as I was hoping, but good enough for me to have MGS on a plane.
Just give me a release date!!!!
Just give me a release date!!!!
infinityBCRT
Member
Thats super interesting. I remember coming across the thread you made about it. From what I hear though, native FXAA 4.0 will be even better than what you can do there because it will be able to handle sub-pixel detail, which approaches real AA quality if it lives up to the promise.
Companies like to call things "HD" that aren't HD at all
AgentOtaku
Member
GDAMN you KojiPro!
You gonna make me buy AGAAAAIN!!!!
You gonna make me buy AGAAAAIN!!!!
Unknown One
Member
This game is Native PSP resolution and 60 fps at least right?
Pretty much, people even call 640x360 HD > nHD. Wii is HD too!
Surely it's higher than 480x272!
The_Endgamer
Member
Then they aren't exactly the same are they? Different resolutions, more jaggies and more able to see blurry textures.
That's my point and your disregarding it. What my eyes see is very different to acknowledging technical differences as i don't care for them unless i can see them. They look different and because of the jaggies Vita version loses my vote.
GhostTrick
Banned
MGS3 is 30fps, I think I saw this on Kojima's Twitter.
Unknown One
Member
Damn I meant Vita but oh well haha.
Well to be fair to the companies in question, "HD" is nothing more than a marketing term anyways. I mean what happens when we start seeing resolutions 2-3x of 1920x1080 on the shelves? Are we going to just keep adding adjectives to "definition" until we hit something crazy like super-ultra-mega definition?
Hmmm, so the resolution isn't even native huh? I suppose that is at least a good sign that they are aiming to keep the games running at 60 fps. Still MUCH cleaner and sharper than MGS3D.
If these are both 60 fps, they will be truly amazing to behold on the Vita. It's just a shame they couldn't hit native resolution or at least use some AA.
That said, a solid 30 fps would still be a huge improvement on the 3DS version which runs between 15-20 fps most of the time.
If these are both 60 fps, they will be truly amazing to behold on the Vita. It's just a shame they couldn't hit native resolution or at least use some AA.
Really? I'll have to look.
That said, a solid 30 fps would still be a huge improvement on the 3DS version which runs between 15-20 fps most of the time.
No, if you think about it it's logical, you can already play mgsw on vita. Would you buy this collection if you already have mgs
If it was the same as the PS3 version, offering MGS2, MGS3, and PW with a better framerate and (true) dual stick controls? Absolutely.
Peace Walker is also "unofficially" supported on the Vita...it's not available for download from PSN.
short answer, yes!
16:9 resolutions
960x540 = qHD
1280x720 = HD
1920x1080 = FHD
2560x1440 = QHD
3840x2160 = QFHD
7680x4320 = UHD
It's a huge improvement to shit. Which means it's still a sad case.
Risk Breaker
Member
I think what you saw is the title screen of MGS3 running at 30FPS some weeks ago. Nothing more. Let's not confirm things we don't know yet, even if in the end it turns out to be true.
Risk Breaker
Member
Press the PS button and voilá, no?
LOL
It was even more ridiculous before the edit, what with all those Ws and Gs in there in the resolutions below 7680x4320.
Why don't stroll down to GS and buy used copies of MGSHD + MGS 4 for about $47 and then go home, log onto PSN, and buy a copy of MGS1 off of PSN? Cheaper, more efficient, more complete, and you get better controls/resolution/framerate out of MGS2 and MGS3.
Seraphinianus
Banned
hmmm...pretty disappointing shots. also, i hadn't thought of the whole L2/R2 thing....i think I'll stick to the PS3 version.
Can you put your HDTV in a bag and bring it around with you?
Unless Sony changed something to Vita's OS, it's up to each game, similar to the PS3 and in-game XMB.
Vyse The Legend
Member
Definitely doesn't look anywhere near as good as the console version -- quite the downgrade. Hopefully, it's still 60fps.
Portugeezer
Member
Why... does it not look native 544p?
Yeah, those were indeed ridiculous, but they were not 16:9 so I decided to take them out.
Why would you want games with cutscenes up to 15 mins a piece on the go?
boggles my mind
So what you're saying is that you only game on portable handhelds? Be realistic here.
Unknown One
Member
You could skip cutscenes you know. Why would I want a portable Metal Gear Solid? I just do. I don't question what you want or do.
Solid warrior
Banned
It looks similar to the PS2 version but has more jaggies and lower resolution textures it seems. We have to see it in motion though to see how it performs frame-rate wise.
notice how it says "NONE" for both menus, I don't remember that in the original game.
But we don't know if they've overcome the lack of the analogs and pressure sensitive buttons, yet.
it looks like the item/weapon menu can be opened using the touch screen.
notice how it says "NONE" for both menus, I don't remember that in the original game.
But we don't know if they've overcome the lack of the analogs and pressure sensitive buttons, yet.
StoppedInTracks
Member
I've probably spent more time playing my Vita this past month than I've spent playing my PS3, Wii, and 360 the entirety of last year. That said, these are all games I've played before. Getting to play it on a handheld makes it a new experience ever so slightly.
Yes.
Risk Breaker
Member
Eh... when you press the PS Button on the Vita the game stays "suspended" and you access the OS until you instantly return to the game.
Are you sure that is up to each game and that you could have the game running, twitter, the browser, friends and trophy apps running at the same time if the dev wanted to?
This, it looks like psp upresed for me, and i don't get that...
If the Vita is soooo easy to develop for, and we get some Wipe Out with perfect AA and awesome geometry, why this...
Dreams-Visions
Member
looks fine.
Meh. Some great games like MGS 2 and 3 should stay on the systems where you can hook up to big screens. When you port cinematic games to handhelds, something doesn't seem right.
Not to mention PS3/360 versions are far superior. But that's just me.