MarineMountie
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Not at all. An average player that upgrades from TaylorMade to Titleist is still an average player. A person that can't put spin on a Pinnacle ball won't magically be able to put spin on a ProV1
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Not at all. An average player that upgrades from TaylorMade to Titleist is still an average player. A person that can't put spin on a Pinnacle ball won't magically be able to put spin on a ProV1
An average player with a $1000 set of irons and $500 driver will have the possibility of hitting it further/straighter than an average player using irons and driver picked up at a pawn shop. Better grooves, better shafts, better tech on the face allowing for larger sweet spots, better grips for less slippage, better shoes for less slippage. I can go on and on.
And an average player that's able to put a little spin on a pinnacle will put the same spin on a ProV1, but with better results because of the texture of the ball. Better balls have softer, "stickier" shells that allow the ball to grab the club face and, as a result, grab the grass and react.
greendublin
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Sorta kinda. I think the effect is more pronounced in digital golf. But the spirit of your comment is the same. If you're playing golf with friends and having fun, who cares about being the best player day one. Have fun, learn the courses and worry about being the best when you're on even ground.
Now can we get back to someone digging in and confirming other shot types aren't tucked away somewhere? I'm in tears over here for chrissake
MarineMountie
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Just going off my real life experience with myself and my golf buddies. That's all I can go on. I went from TaylorMade R9's to Titleist AP1's and I'm still shooting around 77-79 a round. I just wanted new clubs. Same for my friends that I play with. Their handicaps didn't budge.
I get what you are saying though. It's just not a good analogy since it's so cut and dry in a game because of numbered stats instead of actual skill of playing in real life.
Jawbreaker
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It'll be arriving tomorrow from Amazon. Can't wait! Any idea when reviews are out?
Team Andromeda
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Loving this and it looks stunning on the Pro in HDR . Best golf game going.
I'd say buying expensive clubs meant for better players in "real" golf will usually be worse for the average golfer since they will typically magnify any mistakes they make. And for the record, shooting sub-80s would make you far better than the average golfer.
tiebreaker
Member
Sounds like MMO.
I'll buy the game mainly for the single player anyway.
Can't wait.
Jawbreaker
Member
Has it lived up to its legacy?
Only trying to put the analogy on the same playing field. You're going from one top brand to another top brand. I'm sure you'd play better with a top brand/model after coming from a Sports Authority starter set (after some adjustment)
Just to be clear, I don't care if anyone uses real money to buy digital clubs so they can play better, I just wanna play the game. It's not like you can press X and the ball goes straight to the hole, so what do I care? Just a funny concern some folks in the thread have.
Looking forward to getting the game and competing with a bunch of you talented and/or untalented golfers.
tiebreaker
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I went to see if any store nearby broke the street date, but no luck.
Such a shame.
Such a shame.
For your average mid-handicapper like me (I'm 16 handicap, basically your typical local player) equipment means next to nothing so long as it was made by a reputable company in the last 10 years. I can rent the new Taylor Made M2 set from my club and play essentially the exact same as if I use my brother's ancient set of Titleists he bought for about 150 dollars including the bag. Personally I'm still running second hand Taylor Made Burner 2.0's, again I play the exact same as with the other sets. The biggest difference between sets to me by far is
a) Launch angle on the driver, and
b) What clubs you actually have in your bag, in particular what set of wedge angles your set has. I recently swapped out my 5-wood for a 4th wedge as it matters more to me, for example.
As for balls I've used Pro V1s, standard Taylor-Mades and I've used the no-name shit you'll find lost in the woods, again I see essentially no difference in how far the ball travels off the tee (and I use a Garmin S3 to measure my drives with my typical distance being 260-280 yards) or how it reacts when biting on the green from a pure wedge shot with a bit of spin.
I'm sure that once you get down to scratch or pro play it starts to matter more, but for the vast, vast majority of people, golf equipment is pay to enter but not pay to win. You can't buy your way to a better score.
Even if equipment was the differentiating factor in real life, I still don't think it would excuse predatory microtransaction practices in a game.
Honestly Hort I don't know. The game definitely has online components so i would think you would need PS+ for everything but the offline single player but I don't know. Maybe someone that got the game early can answer.
But what would you consider more of a grind compared to previous games or a competitive edge in terms of stats. From what I've seen each individual club has it's own level stats so someone's 5 iron might be better than the other person's 3 iron, so off the bat it's already more grindy if you're looking to max everything compared to previous games, unless you're basing everything completely off the initial drive.
I'm not too concerned about the balance a max level beginner character would always have better abilities and further drives than a level 1 beginner character with things like homing shot etc which wouldn't be unlocked unless they used that character in previous games and there's a condor trophy, I would like to think that hole in one-ing a par 5 can be done without buying anything.
MarineMountie
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I think people are talking about the level up system itself. Since you are leveling individual clubs only when they get used, get ready for a grind. That brings up the question, is there more of a grind implemented to entice microtransaction sales? I'm not sure, but it wouldn't be the first game to have ridiculous grind to level because of the addition of microtransactions.
I really don't know. I'm still waiting for answers like everyone else. Just trying to answer your post.
As long as the "grind" involves playing a fun golf game then I don't really have a problem with it at all.
OnlookerDelay
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Stargateheaven confirmed that he saw no option for Advance Swing(s) in his broadcast yesterday, nor any hint of it as an add-on unlockable after 10 hours of play. Another viewer in his stream (ncaa380) confirmed that he'd gotten official confirmation on NO Advanced Swings months ago.
Their information was convincing enough to convince me to cancel my pre-order. I've seen nothing since then to dispel that.
Because you are going to level up your 1W power far quicker than the other woods and struggle to level up the control on clubs you rarely hit an approach shot with.
Latvian Hitman
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Not sure why there's so much surprise about microtransactions in here. Every Hot Shots game has had them from the PS3 era forward. This is not a new thing for the series.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
PS4 Pro 4k Options
Are those mutually exclusive options? So no 4K and 60 FPS?
I mean, if there's a title that I'd think can be optimized to achieve that, it would be this one. Ah well.
The game automatically sets the best club for every situation, you can change the club if you want to, so you will not need to think about it, just play the game the best you can, thats the best way to level up everything.
Why even think about this, just play your best with the clubs you have. and you will level up the clubs in no time.
Yeah leveling up control is going to be a pain for woods. For irons you can just lay up on par 5's and use the desired club in approach mode hopefully. I tried using a wood from the fringe in the beta and it wouldn't let me.
Golf is won and lost on the green that's why i'll be teeing off with my putter until it's fully maxed out.
Slaylock
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Doesn't work that way, you only level up if you do a successful shot (long fairway drives and GIRs)
greendublin
Member
THAT'S NOT TRUE! THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!
Bog
Junior Ace
What's Advanced? I want the 3 tap kind. Is that in?
Nyteshade517
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Latvian Hitman
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Bog
Junior Ace
What the fuck is that? Where's my horizontal meter?
MarineMountie
Member
Thought we left that control method in the past with Tiger brand handhelds. I'll use it, but I don't have to like it!
How is the player creation? I haven't checked it out on YouTube or anything. Guess that would be a good place to start.
Nyteshade517
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don't have the game yet...was just commenting on the 3 button press mechanic being in since that's already known and in videos, comments on here, etc
Setzer
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It's been the same swing mechanic used in every game of the series. It hasn't changed. Sure, they've added other types of optional shot methods in later entries but the 3 button press mechanic with the horizontal meter is a staple of the series.
BigEmil
Junior Member
I'd say the technical team behind Clap Hanz is not the greatest so I wouldn't have thought so
Golf is a club and ball sport in which players use various clubs to hit balls into a series of holes on a course in as few strokes as possible.
You are good to go now.
OnlookerDelay
Member
I know... I know... I feel your pain greendublin; I was in denial when I first caught wind of this, but the preponderance of evidence to the contrary finally made me face reality.
loli pantsu
Member
The faces still annoy me, and I can't believe they used that outdated trailer as the intro video.
Aside from that, the club and putt leveling system seems like an extra bonus on top of the original gameplay mechanics.
Aside from that, the club and putt leveling system seems like an extra bonus on top of the original gameplay mechanics.
N° 2048
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and sold.
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