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I went to a 7-year old's CoD themed b-day party

Betty

Banned
Reminds me of this

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=786483

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If I were a kid into Call of Duty this cake would make my day.

Personally I see no issue with it.
 

sn00zer

Member
Depends on the kid.

At 7 I remember I was playing Counter Strike, Mortal Kombat 4, GTA 2. Turned out just fine.

Videogame-themed birthday party on the other hand sounds a bit nuts, but hey, what are you gonna do.
This is such a bad argument to me given how far games have come in terms of violence and realism
 
Because it's not normal and shouldn't be normal. If a parent decides to put on porn for their 5 year old and shoot up heroin, yeah it's the parent's decision - but it's also a shitty one and an example of bad parenting/child neglect.

I didn't say it was normal or ok. Let's go back to this kid. How is it neglect if the parent is involved?



Because not wanting parents intentionally ruinnibg a childs view of the world and giving them possible trauma later in life puts me on a high horse. Okay. Sure. Gotcha


May I ask something? Do you have kids?

I do. They don't play video games like I do and that's fine. But when they see something on TV from a game I'm playing, you know what I do? I explain what's happening to them and answer their questions. Their view of life doesn't seem ruined from what I've seen.

When I say being involved I don't mean, "hey, what you're playing?" It's the time you spend to make sure they know and understand that's it's just a game and the real life consequences.

I'm apologize if I offended you.
 

Orb

Member
Do the parents seem loving and attentive? Does the kid seem to be respectful and happy for the most part? Is either the parents or the kid causing harm to you mentally or physically? If you answered yes to any of those maybe there's an issue but then again most likely there's nothing wrong. Parent your kids how you want and stay out of other parents business.
You know, i wish all the time someone had spoken up to my mother from letting me watvh and play whatever i wanted. But nobody did. Because everybody thinks "parents know best and can do no wrong"
 
I judge for the kid's taste in game and therefore the cake, I guess.

JK, I'd be skeptical knowing US gun culture can be too extreme. But maybe his parents are okay with exposing explicit material early for their kid and are monitoring them with care. I personally would wait until their teenagers but different strokes I guess.
 

AssassiN

got the wrong hit
My 8 year old son and my 8 year old step son play CoD but supervised and only in mp with their friends with the filter option turned on (can't remember what it's called). We don't let them anywhere near campaign, which I think is a good compromise.

I was sneakily playing games like Duke 3d and doom at their age so I'd rather that they do it supervised than try to sneak about.
 

Orb

Member
I didn't say it was normal or ok. Let's go back to this kid. How is it neglect if the parent is involved?






May I ask something? Do you have kids?

I do. They don't play video games like I do and that's fine. But when they see something on TV from a game I'm playing, you know what I do? I explain what's happening to them and answer their questions. Their view of life doesn't seem ruined from what I've seen.

When I say being involved I don't mean, "hey, what you're playing?" It's the time you spend to make sure they know and understand that's it's just a game and the real life consequences.

I'm apologize if I offended you.
You are forgettong we are talkong about 5 to 7 year olds. Even if you explained things to them, the likelihood of them understanding is mimimal, plus on explanation youre going to end up showing them how shitty the world actually is, especially when explaining war games.
 
All of those games are jank enough to be able to easily seperate fact from fiction

Call Of Duty is photorealistic to a common child, theres a world of difference
I might as well also mention GTA. During those times they were good. But I am sure if I was growing up now, I would still be playing the same games.
 
My biggest problem is the gun and the bullets on the cake to be honest.

If the cake just said CoD, I could live with it.

Even tanks or fighter jets would be OK.

But guns and bullets bother me.
 

VillageBC

Member
Letting a 7yr old be obsessed with a shooter like CoD is just plain irresponsible parenting. You can make excuses to justify it all you want, but it's just plain wrong to allow. The kid should be playing Splatoon 2 with my 6 and 8 year olds.
 

Sami+

Member
As much as it sounds weird and such, cod is a kids thing and blame on the parents by allowing it but let's give it the benefit of the doubt and celebrate the fact the kid had fun and a very special bday party.

Gloryfication is wrong as fuck, shaming a kid for having harmless fun too

Definitely not the kid's fault at all, for sure. I agree with OP though in that the culture is kind of problematic.

Fuck jingoism and fuck America's war fetish. When it comes to my own kids though (when I have them) I don't think I'd have a problem sharing something like Halo with them, but fighting aliens and fighting other humans are two very different things.
 

phen0m24

Member
You think call of duty is bad, I worked at Gamestop for nearly a decade. I'd have to ID people buying Grand Theft Auto and many parents would send the kids in by themselves (some as young as 4) and have them buy the game which I couldn't do without a parent and they would get SO upset...

Not because of the game they were trying to buy but because they had to come inside and show ID. When I'd tell them why I'd have to ID them (M rating) and with GTA I'd always warn the parents what was actually in it. Murder, drug use, sexual content, ect. Almost all of them would either say they didn't care or would say some excuse like 'oh they see that on TV all the time anyway' and it would just baffle the fuck out of me.

Very few would ever say 'oh no you can't play that' and most of the time when that actually happened the kid would throw a tantrum and the parent would buy it anyway. Hell I had one parent who held his ground, they left and like 15minutes they came back and said they couldn't take it anymore and bought it anyway.

Again, this wasn't teenagers this was like the OP 7, 8, 9, but again some even as little as 4 and 5 years old.

Hell some parents were stupid as hell and the kids would convince them 'oh they never do any of those bad things they just drive around' and I'd roll my eyes as the parents fell for it every.freaking.time.

When my brother and I were home from college once we rented a GTA to see what all the fuss was about. Found ourselves in the store and there was a kid maybe 9?? trying to sell his (I swear it was) grandmother on getting him GTA. "You drive around and that's it" and we said "You forgot to tell her that you murder pedestrians and police and kill prostitutes and take their money.." That lady's jaw about hit the floor and that kid gave us the death stare. Lol, sorry kiddo.

Why don't people just read the back of the dang box?? You're welcome, ESRB.
 

peppers

Member
7 years old is WAY too young to play COD imo. Associating guns, grenades and other material to "fun times" is also something I personally wouldn't allow since their only purpose is destruction and murder.
 
Completely inappropriate. Kids under 12 shouldn't be playing or watching the vast majority of mature rated games and especially not play ones that could kill brain cells (mindless fps like COD). So why exactly is the kid a huge enough fan of COD to have a birthday themed party unless they play the game or watch it played on YouTube.

One series that I don't understand why it is mature rated is Halo. There is some blood but it's mostly alien blood and the gun violence is all futuristic and against alien creatures. No bad language I can recall for any game staring the Master Chief.

Halo has its moments where an M rating is ubderstandable


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PixelatedBookake

Junior Member
Is it really controversial that a 7 year old shouldn't be having a COD themed b-day party? Or playing the game in the first place? It says 18+ on the box lmao
 

Dre3001

Member
On one hand I feel like this isnt appropriate. But on the other hand I feel like a hypocrite saying that since I was playing Mortal Kombat games when I was 6/7.
 

RoadDogg

Member
My son is 5 and i couldnt picture him playing cod in 2 years. My nephew is turning 8 and he wants splatoon 2. His friends are into star wars, marvel and roblox.

Im sure if either of them were exposed to cod and had a parent who was into it though they would latch onto it quickly though.
 

MAX PAYMENT

Member
Violence in games is very fantasized and unrealistic. I don't think there's anything wrong with people or kids being entertained by it.

There are horror games that I think could really mess a kid up though. Not arcade twitch shooter stuff.
 

Sami+

Member
"You forgot to tell her that you murder pedestrians and police and kill prostitutes and take their money.." That lady's jaw about hit the floor and that kid gave us the death stare. Lol, sorry kiddo.

Why don't people just read the back of the dang box?? You're welcome, ESRB.

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That boy ain't right, I tell ya what
 

Servbot24

Banned
You - like a majority of GAF people - are overthinking this

It seems very obvious to me that our experiences at an early age contribute to shaping us as we grow up.

It should be obvious to everyone on this board as well considering most of us have this hobby because it interested us when we were little.

Violence in games is very fantasized and unrealistic. I don't think there's anything wrong with people or kids being entertained by it.

There are horror games that I think could really mess a kid up though. Not arcade twitch shooter stuff.

Killing men seems worse than killing monsters to me. That said I wouldn't want them seeing gore and gratuitous violence.
 
You are forgettong we are talkong about 5 to 7 year olds. Even if you explained things to them, the likelihood of them understanding is mimimal, plus on explanation youre going to end up showing them how shitty the world actually is, especially when explaining war games.


Dude are you pro big brother programs? Lol...

No matter what I say your responses to me will be the same.

My personal opinion > then any actual parent who's actually involed with their children. There's what you think and feel (personal opinion) and what really happening. 5 or 7 ALL kids are born as individuals. What flows with one kid won't with others.

I currently know a 6 year old who watches all old school and new school horror movies like my 4 year old watches Disney Princess movies and my now 13 year old who can't stomach any of it at her current age and when she was 6 no matter it's horror or Disney Princess.

Are the 6 year old parents wrong for allowing him to watch those horror movie? Fuck no! They watch it with him and they allow the 6 year old to be himself instead of making him feel like he's weirs or not normal.
 

SenkiDala

Member
11/12 I'd say ok but yeah 7 is a bit young. Even though kids often play with plastic guns and that stuff but yeah COD games are more realistics than plastic toys.

I started to play games like Resident Evil when I was 13 and I'm ok, I didn't became violent or had weird thinkings/acting with blood/gore stuff etc, but RE looks like "fantasy horror" it doesn't look real, COD is war and was is a real thing, but as a kid do you think about that? I'm not sure.
 

PixelatedBookake

Junior Member
Dude are you pro big brother programs? Lol...

No matter what I say your responses to me will be the same.

My personal opinion > then any actual parent who's actually involed with their children. There's what you think and feel (personal opinion) and what really happening. 5 or 7 ALL kids are born as individuals. What flows with one kid won't with others.

I currently know a 6 year old who watches all old school and new school horror movies like my 4 year old watches Disney Princess movies and my now 13 year old who can't stomach any of it at her current age and when she was 6 no matter it's horror or Disney Princess.

Are the 6 year old parents wrong for allowing him to watch those horror movie? Fuck no! They watch it with him and they allow the 6 year old to be himself instead of making him feel like he's weirs or not normal.

Why not just wait until their kid was older? Why show him movies like that now when they could wait for him to actually understand what he's watching?
 

Sami+

Member
Dude are you pro big brother programs? Lol...

No matter what I say your responses to me will be the same.

My personal opinion > then any actual parent who's actually involed with their children. There's what you think and feel (personal opinion) and what really happening. 5 or 7 ALL kids are born as individuals. What flows with one kid won't with others.

I currently know a 6 year old who watches all old school and new school horror movies like my 4 year old watches Disney Princess movies and my now 13 year old who can't stomach any of it at her current age and when she was 6 no matter it's horror or Disney Princess.

Are the 6 year old parents wrong for allowing him to watch those horror movie? Fuck no! They watch it with him and they allow the 6 year old to be himself instead of making him feel like he's weirs or not normal.

There's a difference between horror movies and pro-military garbage like CoD.
 

Ossom

Member
I agree with you OP.

I have been in a similar situation and had a conversation with a parent about their child playing cod. I didn't tell them that they shouldn't let them play, but just wanted to check that the parent knew the content that was contained in the game.

They didn't know about some of the violence and language in cut scenes and set pieces and weren't really familiar with that content at all. Either way they said that their child and all their friends played and there wasn't anything they could do to stop them.

That same child once said to me, whilst high up on a balcony, that it would be a great place to snipe all the people in the street below. I guess when you play all the time you end up thinking about it everywhere you go. I know that after 100hours playing zelda I wished I had a paraglider so that I could get around places quicker. It just shocked me when those words left his mouth.
 

Pantz

Member
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Some kids just like military stuff. Desert Storm trading cards were pretty popular with my friends and I.

I don't think a military themed cake will do a child any harm. If you want to argue that he shouldn't be playing Call of Duty at 7, that's another story. The birthday party though, is harmless.
 

Fury451

Banned
I can't wait to play CoD online where he'll probably call me various racial slurs, suggest I'm vigorously into same sex relationships and make various untasteful comments about my mother.
 
Why not just wait until their kid was older? Why show him movies like that now when they could wait for him to actually understand what he's watching?


It's their child and they feel comfortable with him watching it. I asked the kid why he likes horror movies so much and he said he loves the old ones because they looked gooie and he hasn't been scared yet. He also said he pauses the movie if he's watching it by himself if he knows or sees naked people for his parents to fast foward because naked people are creepy. Lol.. he didn't really answer my question. He's a good kid.

There's a difference between horror movies and pro-military garbage like CoD.


Your post is a perfect example of a opinion and you shared it.

:)
 

boyshine

Member
I remember attending a classmate's birthday party when I was probably around 9-10. The dad had different things displayed on a shelf next to the stairs. One of the displayed items was a hand grenade. It was my first time seeing one, and I was scared to death of it. Times have changed when they put them on the actual cake. I'm sure there were kids at that party whos parents doesn't let them play T or M rated games or watch war movies yet. These things create a divide among children, and can cause freeze outs and bullying. No doubt the parents setting up the party are aware of it, and shame on them for giving in to the "who's got the coolest party" competition.
 

Iorv3th

Member
It's just like playing cops and robbers though?

I remember playing cops and robbers when I was a kid and sticking a piece of glass in a persons mouth and forcing his mouth open and closed.

I also remember all the people I was playing with shouting angrily at me and calling me all kinds of racial slurs.

And not only that my parents promoted it.
 

Y-Z

Member
You know, i played m Games as a child but i am kind of against this. M games 15 years ago were still pixels doing pixel stuff, nowadays it's too realistic. I would not let my children play COD, GTA BF etc.
 
Seems a bit strange, considering the games are 17+. I get playing it a bit earlier, but at 7?

But well, people are pretty much aiming for this audience through Youtube and such with COD channels, so I shouldn't be surprised I guess.
 
Commando was my favorite movie as a kid. And Highlander. We played cowboys and Indians. We had Nerf guns. 7 is a little early, you're right though.

My son is 7. He's playing Mario, Slime Rancher, Minecraft, Smash, Kirby, etc. I wouldn't let him play a military shooter yet.
 
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