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bombshell · Apr 28, 2017

Link to report: https://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/library/fr/16q4_sonypre.pdf

(Fiscal year ended March 31, 2017)

1st Course said:
2.9m PS4s sold last quarter (up from 2.3m in FY15 Q4).

Total PS4 hardware shipments:

End of FY2015: 40.0 million.
FY2016 shipments: 20.0 million.
= 60.0 million (as of end of March 2017)

Forecast for FY2017: 18.0 million = 78 million LTD by end of March 2018.

Joystick said:
A more financially detailed report:

https://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/library/fr/16q4_sony.pdf

killatopak · Apr 28, 2017

Well deserved.

Femto. · Apr 28, 2017

PS4 is a beast, King has returned, etc. etc.

Scorpio.

Got all the bases covered?

AnotherDayAnotherDollar · Apr 28, 2017

Launch aligned, is it still on pace with PS2 and Wii or has it fallen behind?

Ombala · Apr 28, 2017

Wow amazing figures

meirl · Apr 28, 2017

Not bad

orochi91 · Apr 28, 2017

They actually managed to hit that 60 million mark by FY2016.

We're looking at 78 million ps4 shipped for FY2017, at minimum.

Joystick · Apr 28, 2017

A more financially detailed report:

https://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/library/fr/16q4_sony.pdf

Good to see that their PlayStation division has the highest growth compared to last year.

SinCityAssassin · Apr 28, 2017

So is that income from the Game division 6% up from last year?

J@hranimo · Apr 28, 2017

Femto. said:
PS4 is a beast, King has returned, etc. etc.

Scorpio.

Got all the bases covered?

Think so!

Good job Sony, there better be really good BF sales this year so I can snag one for cheap...

bombshell · Apr 28, 2017

They reached their 20.0 fiscal year forecast exactly, did they channel stuff a bit?

Vena · Apr 28, 2017

bombshell said:
They reached their 20.0 fiscal year forecast exactly, did they channel stuff a bit?

With that round of a number? Almost assuredly.

Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew · Apr 28, 2017

AnotherDayAnotherDollar · Apr 28, 2017

orochi91 said:
They actually managed to hit that 60 million mark by FY2016.

We're looking at 78 million ps4 shipped for FY2017, at minimum.

That has to imply a permanent price drop, hopefully to $199 because I want to get one this year. $199 BF bundle please.

AmyS · Apr 28, 2017

Femto. said:
PS4 is a beast, King has returned, etc. etc.

Scorpio.

Got all the bases covered?

Sony just stay the course, right through the launch of PS5.

Fezan · Apr 28, 2017

Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew said:

Do you work for polygon?

On topic how did mobile and movie division did

wapplew · Apr 28, 2017

bombshell said:
They reached their 20.0 fiscal year forecast exactly, did they channel stuff a bit?

At my back yard.
So they expect less PS4 unit ship but more overall income next year, no aggressive price cut and major games release?

Striek · Apr 28, 2017

Pretty much in-line with their expectations at the start of the year in all categories.

PS4 has been ridiculously profitable for Sony so far.

Broman1978 · Apr 28, 2017

I have bought 4 PS4´s through the years =)
You are welcome Sony

orochi91 · Apr 28, 2017

AnotherDayAnotherDollar said:
That has to imply a permanent price drop, hopefully to $199 because I want to get one this year. $199 BF bundle please.

$199 would be kosher.

They'd be insane not to hit that price going into this holiday season; Scorpio and NSW gonna be gunning for them.

bombshell · Apr 28, 2017

Joystick said:
A more financially detailed report:

https://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/library/fr/16q4_sony.pdf

Good to see that their PlayStation division has the highest growth compared to last year.

Thanks, I added your link as well, but I can't find the PS4 hardware numbers in that report. What page are they on?

DieH@rd · Apr 28, 2017

They are gonna surpass PS3 in 2018.

jayu26 · Apr 28, 2017

Fezan said:
Do you work for polygon?

On topic how did mobile and movie division did

Mobile is profitable, pictures is not. Forecast is okayish for both.

Vena · Apr 28, 2017

orochi91 said:
$199 would be kosher.

They'd be insane not to hit that price going into this holiday season; Scorpio and NSW gonna be gunning for them.

Not sure. They expect lower shipments and increased profits. Not sure that lines up with price drops on the Slim. Maybe the Pro.

Xando · Apr 28, 2017

wapplew said:
At my back yard.
So they expect less PS4 unit ship but more overall income, no aggressive price cut or major games release?

They got marketing and possible bundles for Destiny 2, COD and Battlefront. RDR2 possibly hitting this FY. Price is probably gonna get cut at some point and they have GT releasing which is huge in europe. Maybe Spidey aswell?

N7.Angel · Apr 28, 2017

Nice, good job Sony, now release Spider-man this year and you'll be awesome <3

sense · Apr 28, 2017

Bundling games like rdr2, destiny 2, Star Wars battlefront 2 and cod ww2 will roll in the dough for them so no price cut will be needed unless Scorpio is aggresively priced at 399

Inuhanyou · Apr 28, 2017

i refuse to believe they are gonna be close to PS3's total after like 7 or 8 years by the end of next year. Its not happening.

bombshell · Apr 28, 2017

Vena said:
With that round of a number? Almost assuredly.

Yeah, so that is accounted for in the slightly lower 18 million FY17 forecast.

Inuhanyou said:
i refuse to believe they are gonna be close to PS3's total after like 7 or 8 years by the end of next year. Its not happening.

They'll be at 78 million by hitting their forecast. Is that not close to you?

orochi91 · Apr 28, 2017

Vena said:
Not sure. They expect lower shipments and increased profits. Not sure that lines up with price drops on the Slim. Maybe the Pro.

Pergaps they'll hold off on a price cut this year due to the bundles/marketing planned with 3rd-party partners; squeeze as much profit out of the current price point.

That can probably keep them afloat this year, and allow them to save the $199 deals for holiday 2018.

Elios83 · Apr 28, 2017

199$ holiday season bundles are a given.
249$ official RRP and 50$ off during BF and December.
Coupled with their biggest year ever for software releases on PS4.
It will be a great year for PS4, even during the usual dead summer period they're going to release big exclusives.

sense · Apr 28, 2017

orochi91 said:
Probably going to hold off on a price cut this year due to the bundles/marketing planned with 3rd-party partners; squeeze as much profit out of the current price point.

That can probably keep them afloat this year, and allow them to save the $199 deals for holiday 2018.

They will do 199 runs for Black Friday and Christmas week imo

Inuhanyou · Apr 28, 2017

bombshell said:
They'll be at 78 million by hitting their forecast. Is that not close to you?

I'm saying i refuse to believe that that is going to happen.

jiggle · Apr 28, 2017

real PS4 slim for the holidays

sense · Apr 28, 2017

Inuhanyou said:
I'm saying i refuse to believe that that is going to happen.

There is like no way it won't hit that forecast by March 2018 especially with the big third party bundles and God of war/Spider-Man by then

Fafalada · Apr 28, 2017

orochi91 said:
That can probably keep them afloat this year, and allow them to save the $199 deals for holiday 2018.

They already had 199 deals in 2016(outside of US, where according to Gaf there's no need to compete anyway), it'd be pretty strange to NOT have them this year.

Xando · Apr 28, 2017

Inuhanyou said:
I'm saying i refuse to believe that that is going to happen.

Why though? I believe it's still selling above the PS2 launch aligned.

Striek · Apr 28, 2017

Sony may be projecting slightly fewer consoles sold, but its interesting to note they also project higher sales overall. In fact, their current forecast would give them the highest gaming related revenue of all time, beating Nintendo at the height of DS/Wii mania (FY09) by about 50B yen.

dragonflys545 · Apr 28, 2017

It'll probably hit that number. I have a couple of friends waiting for the Pro price to drop to upgrade.

orochi91 · Apr 28, 2017

sense said:
They will do 199 runs for Black Friday and Christmas week imo

Yea, I expect retailers to take the initiative and slash prices during BF at least.

bombshell · Apr 28, 2017

Inuhanyou said:
I'm saying i refuse to believe that that is going to happen.

They've hit or exceeded all their forecasts for PS4 so far. What makes you think that will suddenly stop? As pointed out by others already, the 4 blockbuster marketing deals they have for this holiday season will help the PS4 a LOT with attractive bundle opportunities.

Inuhanyou · Apr 28, 2017

Xando said:
Why though? I believe it's still selling above the PS2 launch aligned.

Inconceivable. Its barely been 3 years and a few months. To get close to PS3 in this short a time period...ridiculous.

Mooreberg · Apr 28, 2017

They already bundled at $249.99 with Uncharted 4 last year. With most of the suggestions in here being games that are a September release or later, how would they justify more than $199.99 for a PS4 with no game? Or is it generally expected that third party game bundles will be more expensive than a first party game bundle? It would have either be a custom paint job unit or 1TB HDD to justify going over $259.99, relative to what was made available last year.

On a shorter note - 60M at this point is impressive

orochi91 · Apr 28, 2017

Fafalada said:
They already had 199 deals in 2016(outside of US, where according to Gaf there's no need to compete anyway), it'd be pretty strange to NOT have them this year.

UK and Germany had great deals last holiday season, if I recall correctly.

I'm more focused on the US market since that's where all three console makers have a shot at winning holiday NPDs this year.

ninjablade · Apr 28, 2017

Inuhanyou said:
i refuse to believe they are gonna be close to PS3's total after like 7 or 8 years by the end of next year. Its not happening.

lol it's happening, no reason for it not to happen.

ps3 took that long to sell cause sony made every mistake in the book, while Microsoft made all the right moves.

sense · Apr 28, 2017

Inuhanyou said:
Inconceivable. Its barely been 3 years and a few months. To get close to PS3 in this short a time period...ridiculous.

Amazing how you keep repeating the same comment with absolutely no reasoning.....

Oathbreaker · Apr 28, 2017

Well deserved.

dragonflys545 · Apr 28, 2017

Inuhanyou said:
Inconceivable. Its barely been 3 years and a few months. To get close to PS3 in this short a time period...ridiculous.

Unless they somehow lose those third party partnerships. This fall is going to be huge for them. You have nothing to back up your claims either.

ULTROS! · Apr 28, 2017

What's PS3's LTD?

sense · Apr 28, 2017

ULTROS! said:
What's PS3's LTD?

Somewhere around 85 million I think

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