Some of them get ad revenue or are partnered with companies.
And a lot (Almost all) of the streams are more like a hang out then actually watching someone play a game.
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Rumor : Twitch subscriptions are about to change, adding 2 new options
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Some of them get ad revenue or are partnered with companies.
And a lot (Almost all) of the streams are more like a hang out then actually watching someone play a game.
Yep I miss jtv.
StrongBlackVine
Banned
I'll keep watching for free although the only time I really see a stream is when they upload a recording to YouTube. Have yet to see a streamer I thought was worth paying for or even following closely.
Diablohead
Member
I like watching speedrunners
made me better at overwatch
GitarooMan
Member
I'll just hope hope the prime sub stays the same. It's a great side benefit that I use for moonmoon.
JHoNNy1OoO
Member
Gotta get that money. I guess there is no doubt Twitch will continue getting half of the sub money? If that's the case I can see streamers just telling people to stick to basic sub and continue just donating.
Crazy to think just how donation/sub focused the majority of streams have become. It'd be an interesting study to do.
Crazy to think just how donation/sub focused the majority of streams have become. It'd be an interesting study to do.
Phrozenflame500
Member
There's a streamer I know who already uses a propitiatory tiered subscription system, seems to work out well for him. I think this almost certainly will benefit streamers, since subscribers essentially represent a fairly consistent income stream for them. I wonder how (if?) they'll implement exclusive features that higher-tiered subs get over lower-tiered ones.
i learn from the really good players in overwatch, and moonmoon's just straight up hilarious. he does a lot of different stuff and is always interacting with his chat room so it stays fresh.
i also watch some dota streamers if there's no pro games going on just for the hype plays.
darkistheway
Member
Isn't this just a way to get more money out of popular streamers and their more devoted fans?
Although I guess the streamers do benefit from having higher tiers. I have always thought tips/donations fulfil the desire for higher levels of support.
Although I guess the streamers do benefit from having higher tiers. I have always thought tips/donations fulfil the desire for higher levels of support.
lmimmfn
Member
Thanks, I honestly didn't see the appeal, so honestly that's fair enough, in that context would you pay for the that entertainment though?
Anytime I see some streamers I just see random folk throwing $10-50 here and there, their name appearing in lights, forgotten about and the stream continues.
superdeluxe
Member
I think people sub to show appreciation to the streamer. Emotes is a nice bonus.
Plenty of people donate more than $25 a month so this seems like a good option.
Sure but difference is Twitch doesn't get any of that extra money
Sure but difference is Twitch doesn't get any of that extra money
Yeah. There's a couple streamers I'm considering doing this for and I don't care about the emotes at all. They give good, consistent entertainment and I think they deserve some $.
Storm Kyleis
Member
There are many different kinds of streamers. For instance, I don't watch online competitive games and I usually dislike flashy streams with loud people and insanely fast chats. I like quieter, smaller streams where you can watch entertaining games and interact with the streamer in a meaningful way.
For example, Dumb Game Monday by Easy Allies has been one of my favorite things to watch in the past few weeks. Sometimes I'm in the mood for speedruns, or unique events like TV show marathons or Twitch Plays Pokémon. There's a lot of quality stuff for everyone.
capitalCORN
Member
Annemunition's worth it.
LumpOfCole
Member
For $25/month, I need to outright get a t-shirt at minimum every month. Twitch provides the shirt and the streamer designs the pattern.
DizzyCaffeine
Member
capitalCORN
Member
It's not going to change the base subscription cost. Streamers can add the $9.99 and $24.99 tiers as further options. And Bob being a dead man probably means he's probably not involved in the decision.
Twitch chat is already a cacophony of emote spamming. Giving people exclusive emotes is only going to encourage more of that, resulting in a less pleasant experience for even the people that are paying $25/month.
With so much potential revenue being stolen by PayPal/Patreon donations, you'd think that Twitch might be trying a little harder to come up with ways to use them as an intermediary payment processor for donations. They control the entire stream and entire chatroom....the best incentive they can think up is emotes?
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
Trying to scoop up that Paetreon $$$.
WaterAstro
Member
People don't understand. It's emotes for the Streamer, not yourself.
I'm guessing this is because some loyal fans would make multiple accounts to sub to one streamer. Maybe this is to alleviate that stuff.
I'm guessing this is because some loyal fans would make multiple accounts to sub to one streamer. Maybe this is to alleviate that stuff.
Rockin' Ranger
Member
Jesse still hasn't changed from a one time sub so I doubt he'll do anything differently.
You're better off donating that money directly to them then. If the cuts are going to be anything like they are right now, Twitch will be taking half the money for themselves, so a streamer will only get half of the $9.99 or $24.99 subs.
This is almost entirely because Twitch wants a cut of the money from Patreon that streamers have set up. They've already implemented Bits and Cheers which was a way to cut into the donation money.
$25 Donation: the streamer gets the full amount minus the transaction fees, lets say $23 for the streamer, $2 for the payment provider, $0 for Twitch
$25 Subscription: (if they handle it like the $5 subs): the streamer gets around $12, Twitch gets the other $13 (and pays the payment provider with few cents)
alexanderftw
Banned
Absolutely and totally ridiculous and theres going to be a lot of individuals that will pay 25$ a month to a streamer and those individuals to me are whats wrong with the system. I cant even imagine the mind that goes through said individual that will pay 25$ to watch someone play WoW for example when they could pay 15$ and play the game themselves.
Those damn individuals that attend sports events when they can play it on their own for free! Or those individuals that attend a concert when they can just buy the CD for much less. I can't even imagine why someone would enjoy something that I don't enjoy.
I mean, the though process isn't actually that difficult to follow.
1) This person creates content I enjoy.
2) If I give them money then I will be supporting their ability to create this content that I enjoy
Plus, if anything, it's less about the specific games being played and more about the personalities of the streamer and the people they play with.
Diablohead
Member
For those a little confused about emotes, stream channels unlock more custom emote slots depending on their sub count, these bigger monthly tiers are worth more subs on the counter to unlock more emotes slots for that channel, the person paying gains no extra benefit apart from paying more per month right now.
It's like bits, you can either donate £10 paypal to someone you like or you can give them 1000 bits (£10) but it cost you £13 to buy those bits, £3 goes to amazon payments.
It's like bits, you can either donate £10 paypal to someone you like or you can give them 1000 bits (£10) but it cost you £13 to buy those bits, £3 goes to amazon payments.
Randomizer123454444
Member
To some $25 on per-month level is on about same level of significance as randomly deciding to buy an extra pack of chewing gum from the shop. An insignificant amount if you really like a certain streamer and feel like he/she gives a lot of entertainment in your life.
Luckily subscriptions are not something you need to have so nobody is forced to use the more expensive ones especially.
MoFoJones99
Member
Yeah, exactly. With the $25 option, hardcore viewers are going to vie for popular game streamers attention now.
alexanderftw
Banned
Its not really the same now is it? I am biased regarding these subs I will admit that, donating from time to time is fine, but subbing to someone just to watch them play games for 25$ just to get trivial stuff for chat is ridiculous. I will never accept nor condone such a thing even if I were to become a full time streamer myself.
if you do not like the comparison to sport events or live music: have you heard of PayTV?
there are people that like to spend some amount of money to support to support their favorite content creators. In contrast to PayTV you aren't required to pay at all but still get the content for free as well. There's absolutely nothing wrong with supporting the Streamers if you want to.
MoFoJones99
Member
I see it as an educational tool for learning tricks and techniques to getting better at your favourite games (learnt some useful tips at improving at Battlefield from a streamer).
Also, I find it to be cathartic in a way. Listening to a streamer talk about a certain aspect of the game he/she is playing and getting to hear his/her opinion on it can be quite interesting, IMO.
Yeah. Base 5 buck sub plus PayPal tips. Bits and these tiers only line twitchs pockets. Give directly to the streamer if you want to support them exclusively.
Taliban Stan
Member
Don't really have much to say about this. I just hope Twitch doesn't eventually move to something where they start mandating that some current features that are for everyone are now locked behind a paywall.
I'm cool if this is just Twitch saying they'll allow more subscription options because it helps streamers and has a side benefit that Twitch can get more money on new, pricier subscriptions. I won't be cool if this ends up being a tool Twitch can use to put features behind a paywall as a forceful hand to get increased subscriptions or tier upgrades.
I think the top tier is designed for super fans rather than normal viewers.
I'm cool if this is just Twitch saying they'll allow more subscription options because it helps streamers and has a side benefit that Twitch can get more money on new, pricier subscriptions. I won't be cool if this ends up being a tool Twitch can use to put features behind a paywall as a forceful hand to get increased subscriptions or tier upgrades.
I think the top tier is designed for super fans rather than normal viewers.
Noisepurge
Member
yeah, Twitch should ban the subscriber and donation auto soundeffects :E I get it that people want to be noticed but can't the streamer themselves just acknowledge it live instead of everyone having this obnoxious 30 second sound/animation splash on screen :E /rant
alexanderftw
Banned
Perhaps, however my opinion still stands. There are things that I simply cant condone/like but I will however not dismiss or throw a tantrum at said person(s). Simple as that. Its not like I can do anything about it lol.
I think they only channel worth it for me is @ https://www.twitch.tv/limitbreakradio but I already pay $20 for there patreon
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