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PoliGAF 2017 |OT6| Made this thread during Harvey because the ratings would be higher
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balladofwindfishes
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I just think we need to tone down the panic at every minor little development in GOP healthcare reform. Not every effort is the same, and not every little thing demands constant attention under a microscope.
Arizona governor likes the bill: "This is passing now, probably within a few days"
Rand Paul gives a list of demands: "Welp, there's his breaking point, this is passing now"
Trump makes a vague Murkowski tweet: "She's voting yes now"
None of that mattered and it was an hour or two of panic that didn't need to happen.
People need to calm down. I realize the stakes are high, but this isn't something people can keep up. Eventually, to cope with the stress, they just tune out. You don't need play by play up to the minute news to be informed about politics.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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whoops, wrong thread
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
From their Twitter.
http://www.equalityvirginia.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/VirginiaResultsEV.pdf
Note the 3% difference in republican vote for their governor and their lieutenant governor. 40% vote for the GOP governor candidate, while 37% vote for the GOP lieutenant governor candidate.
The lieutenant governor candidate is a woman.
cartoon_soldier
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I mean, Dems surely can't screw up a governor race in VA. If they do, well, 2018 ain't nothing to be hopeful about.
He's STILL going.
Jesus.
You have to remember, any time Trump can foster a divide between the right and left as well as white people and POC, he will. Seriously, I cannot remember a president in US history who so publicly tried to divide the country, it feels unprecedented.
Regarding this flag shit, it allows him to look like the most patriotic president ever to (idiotic) Republicans and add fuel to the fire regarding the right's views on black people protesting. Dude doesn't like it when black people speak out, so he'll be first in line to tell Republicans that they shouldn't either.
https://twitter.com/rebeccaballhaus/status/912692550330396672
Definitely, really shows with his continued attacks on the NFL. 110% committed. Sure guy.
Definitely, really shows with his continued attacks on the NFL. 110% committed. Sure guy.
Souldriver
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Yep, and it just "forces" people who are otherwise more or less neutral, or unaware, or ignorant about the divides between demographic groups, to pick sides. And I bet you a lot of white people will knowingly or unknowingly side with "their team" and that affects their voting behavior.
It's the easiest trick in the book of fascist douchebags. Villify a minority, force that minority to react, and that reaction is met with annoyance or opposition from the majority. And like that you just reel in the majority to your side, even the ones who are neutral or moderate on the surface.
Fear of others and group identity are strong political tools.
So it's just good practice for Trump to focus on this issue. It's doing shit like this that got him elected.
That's interesting because the Reps have long complained about the bottom earners paying nothing. Their typical "skin in the game" argument.
Do they really think they or Trump can sell the plan as a populist tax cut if it's raising taxes on the bottom?
Aaron Strife
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I totally agree. When I read your post at first I thought you were chiding liberals for not taking Graham-Cassidy seriously. I've been growing extremely tired with the constant anxiety attacks we've seen in this thread, like you said, over shit no one even remembers anymore because it wasn't that important. And it's usually been the same five or so people.
Aaron Strife
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But Trump and leadership will!
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
What does this mean? No tying health care and tax reform together?
Aaron Strife
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It means Graham-Cassidy is passing.
Roanoke has Northam up 4, but I seem to recall them being somewhat shoddy? Monmouth suggested they'll have good news for him.
I hope Northam can match Clinton's what, 6-point win in 2016. And that we're not on the bum end of ticket splitting like usual.
Cesare Borgia
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Pelosi is somewhere laughing.
That the HFC is hypocritically okey dokey with tax reform increasing the deficit or otherwise not being budget neutral.
nature boy
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....
Depressing
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
maabus1999
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So Nigel Farage is campaigning for Roy Moore? WTH is he so interesting in American politics suddenly at a local level? Also this is actually AGAINST Trump so even more fascinating...
Whose he getting paid by is my question?
Whose he getting paid by is my question?
Is that a real quote? Sounds like something ripped straight from The President Show
KirbYuuYuu
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Saw this on Twitter, but without a source
Saw this on Twitter, but without a source
Why did I read this as
Attorney General Jefferson Beleaguered Sessions III
Maggie Haberman is really kind of pathetic
https://mobile.twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/912684613226631168
https://mobile.twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/912684613226631168
nature boy
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Yep
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...91909e-a278-11e7-8c37-e1d99ad6aa22_story.html
Trying to make sense of Trump? Good luck with that.
Mark Andrew
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She kind of backed down in a subsequent tweet but yeah. Shes a good reporter but her undying loyalty to the NYT as an institution is weird.
Lord_Byron28
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Completely anecdotal. However for the past month and a half, I've been bombarded with pro-Gillepsie, anti-Northam ads all over TV. It hasn't been until the past few weeks that the ads have been more 50-50 in terms of each campaign.
Followup said the issue was more nuanced than Silver's trolling attempt. Silver isn't laying the entire Trump issue at NYT's feet, but at this point no one is willing to come out and say they were complicit in throwing tinder on the non-issue email story.
BoboBrazil
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Roger Stone is acting like a jackass in this closed door testimony. Hope he likes his house raided.
CrimzonSamurai
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Lol "the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence."
I'd say "bold strategy" but it's Alabama so they'll pick the worst option (Moore).
I'd say "bold strategy" but it's Alabama so they'll pick the worst option (Moore).
I always wonder what the value is in questioning Stone. The guy is an actual troll. Even as an advisor, I'd wonder what his value is since he basically makes his living now being shocking and weird.
Fancyarcher
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Both options are horrible. It's Alabama though, so not surprising.
BobTheFork
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BoboBrazil
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He is a backdoor to guccifer and WikiLeaks. He's been in contact with them before and after the Hillary Clinton email dump. He's of no use but if they can get his electronics and files they might find something.
Got the Shakes
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Poodlestrike
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This is something that comes up a bit on a few podcasts I listen to - most Republican lawmakers at this point ARE Fox News rubes. It's what they have on in their office and their home, it's what their staff watches... They have access to real information because they're elected officials but they're just as influenced by Fox propaganda as their voters.
Box of Kittens
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2018 was lost when Ossoff didn't win, or maybe it was when Quist didn't win, or maybe it was when a focus group of Trump voters still supported Trump, or maybe it was that time McConnell smiled...
Tbh I think an updated one of these would be ace (probably would have to have concentric circles of stars and a larger blue patch):
A centered, upthrust spatula! Hammer sickle spats, compats.
BoogieWoogie
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Of course, many Americans are capable, it's just we're being held back by the slack jawed, greedy mud people.
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