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Blizzje
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(06-20-2017, 10:41 AM)

Originally Posted by Liabe Brave

Final Fantasy XV appears to be 2160c [analysis by me]

Wow, how were you able to determine that? What footage is there to judge this on?
Were you able to make out if anything has been done to fix the frame pacing?
Phat 2000 Dola
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(06-20-2017, 12:10 PM)
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OP, can we get links to he sources please that have confirmed each and every one?
Bits N Pieces
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(06-20-2017, 12:17 PM)
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I would love a Sunset Overdrive patch, if not 4K then 1080p @ 60fps will do :)
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(06-20-2017, 12:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by Caayn

If the performance is good, no stuttering, Xbox One X might be the system I buy FFXV for.

I've held out this long, a few months more won't hurt.

Considering all the patches, the whole game could be completely different then.
Banjo-Kazooie
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(06-20-2017, 12:26 PM)

Originally Posted by Phat 2000 Dola

OP, can we get links to he sources please that have confirmed each and every one?

Out sources in for the handful that didn't have them. I'm sure many of the others have data out there too. I'll update them if people post them here otherwise I'll do research tonight
samar11
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(06-20-2017, 12:28 PM)
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Isn't MS marketing this as a true Native 4k?
BigTnaples
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(06-20-2017, 12:29 PM)
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How is there no Halo 5 and Halo MCC patches?


Like. Really.


Its fucking Halo MIcrosoft....
Karspankey
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(06-20-2017, 12:31 PM)
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Originally Posted by BigTnaples

How is there no Halo 5 and Halo MCC patches?


Like. Really.


Its fucking Halo MIcrosoft....

Phil said 343 have something planned

"On 343, I was just down there two weeks ago - I can say they are doing some great work exercising what Xbox One X can do both on some of their past games, as well as looking forward. We will probably have more to talk about that soon"
m23
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(06-20-2017, 12:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by samar11

Isn't MS marketing this as a true Native 4k?

It's a 4k capable console but as mentioned over and over again, devs aren't mandated to use the power for that reason.
gamz
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(06-20-2017, 12:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by samar11

Isn't MS marketing this as a true Native 4k?

Up to the devs on how to use the beasts power.
KageMaru
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(06-20-2017, 12:49 PM)
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Originally Posted by Banjo-Kazooie

Most definitely!

Awesome, here is the link for Anthem.

https://youtu.be/W3E5L2sOvNI

Also AC Origins is using a dynamic 4K CBR resolution. The source for that is below as well.

https://youtu.be/e8oPvbpVGP0

Originally Posted by Karspankey

Phil said 343 have something planned

"On 343, I was just down there two weeks ago - I can say they are doing some great work exercising what Xbox One X can do both on some of their past games, as well as looking forward. We will probably have more to talk about that soon"

Since he mentions games that must include MCC on top of Halo 5. I hope they make other improvements to MCC on top of the resolution boost and treat it as a relaunch of the game.
2blackcats
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(06-20-2017, 12:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by xemumanic

The game I'm MOST interested to see get an update but know it's also likely the most UNLIKELY to get an update patch is Battlefield 4.

I bet it could get improved to run closer to 900p on the launch XB1/XB1S, and maybe even 1080p on the base PS4, if given the time.

It runs great on the Pro. Rock solid. Though the ps4 version was probably worse than the x1 version to start with? (aside from resolution)

And did I miss a meeting? When did Just Cause 4 release /get announced? Its been mentioned a couple of times in this thread.
Syrus
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(06-20-2017, 12:54 PM)
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Shadow of war isnt out yet
Karspankey
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(06-20-2017, 01:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by 2blackcats

It runs great on the Pro. Rock solid. Though the ps4 version was probably worse than the x1 version to start with? (aside from resolution)

And did I miss a meeting? When did Just Cause 4 release /get announced? Its been mentioned a couple of times in this thread.

The Just Cause 4 thing is just a typo that guy made
thill1985
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(06-20-2017, 01:13 PM)
I'm expecting some more games to get announced as being enhanced at Gamescom, including Halo games. Hopefully MS/devs realize they need to go out of their way to help highlight the differences/improvements for these games for prior to launch. Maybe show some zoomed in footage to show differences in pixel density and highlight the higher res textures.
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(06-20-2017, 04:52 PM)
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Halo seems like a cert, they have Halo 5 forge on PC so can atleast do the multi but surely they would want the lapsed xbox fans who they want to jump from PS4 to XOX to play it.
Phat 2000 Dola
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(06-21-2017, 06:57 AM)
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Originally Posted by Banjo-Kazooie

Out sources in for the handful that didn't have them. I'm sure many of the others have data out there too. I'll update them if people post them here otherwise I'll do research tonight

Thanks, would be useful to shut people up or alternatively put a "possible" tag on it based on a dev saying "we have BF1 up and running 1X" which doesn't entirely indicate whats being added. Is it 4K? is it 1X enhanced? etc.

ps great thread, have bookmarked to keep updated.
Colbert
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(06-21-2017, 01:39 PM)
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Project Cars 2 will be native 4K and 60 fps on Xbox One X. PS4 Pro resolution not decided yet.

https://www.gamersnet.nl/nieuws/2017...o_nog_onzeker/

Originally Posted by Stephen Viljoen, game director on duty at Slightly Mad Studios

Yes, Project CARS 2 will run 4K / 60 natively on Xbox One X. [...] We are not ready to define the exact resolution on PlayStation 4 Pro yet.

wesleyshark
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(06-21-2017, 01:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by Colbert

Project Cars 2 will be native 4K and 60 fps on Xbox One X. PS4 Pro resolution not decided yet.

https://www.gamersnet.nl/nieuws/2017...o_nog_onzeker/

That's awesome. 😎
Banjo-Kazooie
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(06-21-2017, 01:40 PM)

Originally Posted by Colbert

Project Cars 2 will be native 4K and 60 fps on Xbox One X. PS4 Pro resolution not decided yet.

https://www.gamersnet.nl/nieuws/2017...o_nog_onzeker/

Added!
zorbsie
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(06-21-2017, 01:50 PM)
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This might be a silly question, but I was under the impression that all games running on the X would run better. Some more than others. Is this a list of games that are getting specific updates? Is my first impression still true?
MilkyJoe
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(06-21-2017, 02:10 PM)
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Originally Posted by zorbsie

This might be a silly question, but I was under the impression that all games running on the X would run better. Some more than others. Is this a list of games that are getting specific updates? Is my first impression still true?

I'm pretty sure yes.

Don't expect Ryse to suddenly jump to 1080p or more, expect a solid frame rate. Dynamic resolution games will always be on their highest resolution without patching, I believe.
sTiTcH AU
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(06-21-2017, 02:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by Colbert

Project Cars 2 will be native 4K and 60 fps on Xbox One X. PS4 Pro resolution not decided yet.

https://www.gamersnet.nl/nieuws/2017...o_nog_onzeker/

Thats huge! The comparisons against forza 7 will be fun.
Lucifon
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(06-21-2017, 02:16 PM)
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Originally Posted by BigTnaples

How is there no Halo 5 and Halo MCC patches?


Like. Really.


Its fucking Halo MIcrosoft....

Originally Posted by Karspankey

Phil said 343 have something planned

"On 343, I was just down there two weeks ago - I can say they are doing some great work exercising what Xbox One X can do both on some of their past games, as well as looking forward. We will probably have more to talk about that soon"

I think they plan to make a mini-announcement out of this one I'm guessing. Halo 5 having upgrades seems like a complete no brainer, the game is still heavily played on XBL and 343 have been great with the support for it.
Caayn
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(06-21-2017, 02:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by zorbsie

This might be a silly question, but I was under the impression that all games running on the X would run better. Some more than others. Is this a list of games that are getting specific updates? Is my first impression still true?

This is a list of games receiving Xbox One X specific updates/patches. Games without an Xbox One X update/patch, incl. 360 BC titles, will receive the following benefits:
  • Improved framerate stability
  • Games utilizing a dynamic resolution will hit their max resolution more often/all the time.
  • 16xAF texture filtering will be automatically applied.
  • Forced v-sync
  • VRR compatibility (if you have a compatible display)
wesleyshark
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(06-21-2017, 02:24 PM)
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Forza 7 vs Project Cars 2 faceoffs will be a great time.
Theorry
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(06-21-2017, 02:25 PM)
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Weird that they know it for the Xbox One X wich isnt out yet and doesnt have a complete XDK. And for te Pro they dont know yet. There is not marketing deal going on. So thats odd.
Yearsoflurking
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(06-21-2017, 02:28 PM)

Originally Posted by Theorry

Weird that they know it for the Xbox One X wich isnt out yet and doesnt have a complete XDK. And for te Pro they dont know yet. There is not marketing deal going on. So thats odd.

probably still optimizing it, pro is weaker so it's probably difficult to push it to 4k 60 without extra work.
Burdmayn
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(06-21-2017, 02:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by samar11

Isn't MS marketing this as a true Native 4k?

It's a silly bit of marketing honestly. They aren't saying that every game will hit "Native" 4K. The "True 4K" moniker is just their way to differentiate it from the upscaled 4K that the Xbox One S provides. Even using checkerboarding is closer to "native" 4K than what the Xbox One S does.
Christocolus
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(06-21-2017, 02:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by Colbert

Project Cars 2 will be native 4K and 60 fps on Xbox One X. PS4 Pro resolution not decided yet.

https://www.gamersnet.nl/nieuws/2017...o_nog_onzeker/

So they went from 900p sub 50fps on Xbx1 to 4k60fps on the 1X? Nice
rokkerkory
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(06-21-2017, 02:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by Colbert

Project Cars 2 will be native 4K and 60 fps on Xbox One X. PS4 Pro resolution not decided yet.

https://www.gamersnet.nl/nieuws/2017...o_nog_onzeker/

Wow! Niceeee
CrayToes
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(06-21-2017, 02:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by Colbert

Project Cars 2 will be native 4K and 60 fps on Xbox One X. PS4 Pro resolution not decided yet.

https://www.gamersnet.nl/nieuws/2017...o_nog_onzeker/

I'll be interested to see how that framerate holds up under load. Native 4K is fantastic though.
Hawk269
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(06-21-2017, 02:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by CrayToes

I'll be interested to see how that framerate holds up under load. Native 4K is fantastic though.

One thing that Turn 10 does is ensure a locked frame rate, so I hope that the Project Cars 2 team has it locked down as well.
FZW
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(06-21-2017, 04:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by Theorry

Weird that they know it for the Xbox One X wich isnt out yet and doesnt have a complete XDK. And for te Pro they dont know yet. There is not marketing deal going on. So thats odd.

Says more about the power of XBX than anything. They managed to get 4k 60 without a final XDK.

I think the Pro thing is just about priorities, They probably just prioritized the more powerful console since the weaker one will take more work.

Also for those that don't have 4K tv then this almost guarantees a beautiful game at 1080p.

im excite.
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Colbert
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(06-21-2017, 05:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by Christocolus

So they went from 900p sub 50fps on Xbx1 to 4k60fps on the 1X? Nice

indeed
c0de
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(06-21-2017, 05:26 PM)
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Originally Posted by Christocolus

So they went from 900p sub 50fps on Xbx1 to 4k60fps on the 1X? Nice

They talked about that they worked on the engine for the successor so expect performance improvements also for the standard version.
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(06-21-2017, 06:37 PM)
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Is it a given that Pcars 2 game will have HDR enabled on X1X?
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Colbert
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(06-21-2017, 06:48 PM)
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Don't know where else I should put it:

It seems PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds is and stays Xbox One console exclusive

Originally Posted by www.express.co.uk

The new title that’s been taking the PC platform by storm was announced by Microsoft for console during the E3 2017 Xbox briefing.

We also found out that PlayerUnknown’s Battlegrounds is NOT coming to PS4 but will instead remain an Xbox One exclusive.

The Battle Royale title has already sold more than three million copies since its Early Access release on March 23, 2017 and is currently the third most played game on Steam.

The peak concurrent users (simultaneous active players) can top 200,000 and hits the number one most-watched game on Twitch multiple times a week.

And Developers Bluehole have now confirmed that the popular PC title will launch exclusively on Xbox One’s Game Preview Program later this year.

But while that will prove to be the first build of the game, the full Battlegrounds release on consoles will not be ready until 2018, for Xbox One, Xbox One S, and Xbox One X.

The Preview Program will make it possible for the development team to create a working version of the game quicker, using the constant fan feedback as a way to tune the game.

“Microsoft’s Game Preview program allows us to get feedback directly from players, something that has been crucial to our success on Steam Early Access,” stated Chang Han Kim, VP and Executive Producer at Bluehole, Inc.

“Furthermore, Xbox Live’s solid multiplayer capabilities will enable us to deliver the most complete Battle Royale experience to players worldwide.”

Battlegrounds challenges players to eliminate their opponents on a realistic 8 x 8 km island, with visuals powered by Unreal Engine 4.

Source: http://www.express.co.uk/entertainme...-date-2018-PS4

Edit: And Jez Corden says on Twitter it is not.
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Theorry
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(06-21-2017, 06:54 PM)
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But
"And Developers Bluehole have now confirmed that the popular PC title will launch exclusively on Xbox One’s Game Preview Program later this year. "

So its exclusive when its in game preview?
Christocolus
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(06-21-2017, 07:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by Colbert

Don't know where else I should put it:

It seems PlayerUnknown's Battlegrounds is and stays Xbox One console exclusive



Source: http://www.express.co.uk/entertainme...-date-2018-PS4

Edit: And Jez Corden says on Twitter it is not.


This game will be huge on Xbx1.
Gears 4 info is wrong. It is horizontal dynamic scaling 4k60 for Versus.

AC is chekerboard and not dynamic scaling.
Jumeira
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(06-21-2017, 07:03 PM)
Project cars @ 4k60 is huge, DF go out of their way to use that game as a bench mark for thier tests, devs coming straight out saying it'll be top spec is a big deal.
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(06-21-2017, 09:02 PM)
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Fortnight will support xbox one x

https://m.windowscentral.com/fortnit...-one-x-details
thelastword
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(06-21-2017, 09:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by Colbert

Project Cars 2 will be native 4K and 60 fps on Xbox One X. PS4 Pro resolution not decided yet.

https://www.gamersnet.nl/nieuws/2017...o_nog_onzeker/

Wasn't this translated from another language? Are you guys sure it's not 4k checkerboarded or dynamic?

In any case, it will be great if it was indeed native, this means PS4 PRO can run this at 1800p or 2160CB without a problem...It also says that they have done lots of improvements to their engine to increase performance...Comparisons between all the racers towards the end of the year should be great, even better if DC gets a PRO patch.....

In any case, PC2 vs Forza7 VS GTS will be grand, we will see pros vs cons of all of them or where each racer excels or vice versa et al......Good times...;)
SOR5
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(06-22-2017, 12:12 AM)
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Originally Posted by barneystuta83

Halo 3 anniversary in 4k incoming?

Oh my
ODDI
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(06-22-2017, 12:19 AM)
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Originally Posted by Colbert

Project Cars 2 will be native 4K and 60 fps on Xbox One X. PS4 Pro resolution not decided yet.

https://www.gamersnet.nl/nieuws/2017...o_nog_onzeker/

Holy shit this is big... Imo.
Slayer-33
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(06-22-2017, 12:25 AM)
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Originally Posted by ODDI

Holy shit this is big... Imo.

My body is all sorts of ready bro.

Racing games up the wazoo

FM7 and PC2 should make me a real happy camper
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Liabe Brave
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Originally Posted by Blizzje

Wow, how were you able to determine that? What footage is there to judge this on?
Were you able to make out if anything has been done to fix the frame pacing?

Square released a couple screenshots, so I determined it from them. No video footage, so I have no idea about framerate or pacing.

Originally Posted by Hawk269

One thing that Turn 10 does is ensure a locked frame rate, so I hope that the Project Cars 2 team has it locked down as well.

Isn't it the case that only Forza 6 is known to be actually locked? I'm pretty sure I saw Digital Foundry coverage that 5 at least wasn't.

Originally Posted by FZW

Also for those that don't have 4K tv then this almost guarantees a beautiful game at 1080p.

Actually, it's kind of the opposite. Downsampled 4K gives very nice image quality, but a separate mode with better graphics rather than resolution would probably look nicer at 1080p.

Originally Posted by ethomaz

AC is chekerboard and not dynamic scaling.

ACO is both dynamic and CBR (though res drops haven't yet been detected).
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(06-22-2017, 01:40 AM)
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Originally Posted by Liabe Brave



Actually, it's kind of the opposite. Downsampled 4K gives very nice image quality, but a separate mode with better graphics rather than resolution would probably look nicer at 1080p.

it would still look nice either way. Definitely not the opposite lol.

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