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Drillary Clinton
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(09-19-2017, 09:28 PM)
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The latest game in the NBA 2K series is frustrating to play if you donít want to spend any additional money on top of the $60 you have to shell out to get the game.

Technically, you donít ever need to buy anything in NBA 2K18. Itís just much, much easier if you do. Virtual Currency is the only currency in the game, and was introduced in the 2012 installment (NBA 2K13). Itís something youíll use across game modes in 2K18, but itís especially prevalent in the single-player myCareer mode, where you use it both for upgrading characters and customizing them.

In 2K18, like other installments, youíre able to earn Virtual Currency after every game, and youíll start off with 6,000 VC. That seems generous until you actually start having to use your VC, where youíll find that things are pretty expensive.]

When I spent the entirety of my 6,000 VC on my character, Xavier World Peace, he went from an overall rating of 60 to 62. You can still earn VC by playing games and it will scale with how well you play during the game, as it has in previous games in the series. But still, playing a game with my modest skill only netted me around 500 VC. Once Iíd accrued another 1,000 VC, I tried to upgrade World Peace again. Fooling around with different stats, I realized that Iíd be able to raise his overall rating one point if I spend about 4,000 VC.

If youíd like to customize your character in any way, Virtual Currency becomes even more precious. In particular, if you want to change your characterís hair, you have to purchase a haircut before you see it on the character itself.


You also wonít be able to see the price until you put it in the cartóthis particular haircut costs 1,500 VC.


Not all haircuts are this expensive, but this is just a small part of character customization. What if you want a tattoo? Well, all tattoos other than the 2K logo are locked until you reach an overall rating of 70, and then actually adding the tattoo to your character costs an additional 1,000 VC.


This is the same for clothes, shoes and player animationsóyou have to raise your overall rating to unlock the good stuff, and then you still have to pay VC to actually purchase it. Want Michael Jordanís signature dunk? Well, first you have to to unlock it, and then you can still have to pay for the animation.


That means you have to play hours of games to earn VCÖ or buy 75,000 of VC for $20. In general, playing myCareer mode is a constant reminder of how much VC you donít have, as the game will frequently present you with the option to purchase more.


Fans of the NBA2K series arenít wholly opposed to the idea of buying a currency, but the overall sentiment online appears to be that 2K18 feels more predatory than previous games in the series. One fan estimated that in order to get to an overall rating of 86 and not spend any money, youíd have to play over 200 games.

2K has not responded to requests for comment on NBA 2K18ís VC system.

Microtransactions like these are never popular with players, and for good reason. Who wants to spend another $20 when theyíve already spent $60 on the game itself? Itís disheartening to see a basketball series Iíve enjoyed in the past feel so sleazy in its latest installment. At least let me preview the hair, NBA 2K18. Not everyone looks good with dreads.

I was thinking about this the other night, how 2K doesn't seem to get the attention it deserves for it's most prominent game mode essentially being pay to win. Pretty disgusting honestly. I haven't purchased a 2K game in 2 years but it seems to be being built more and more for the purchase of VC to become necessary. This is the kind of shit you could expect from a free to play game.


Also there's a bug that's been erasing these characters. Imagine spending dozens of dollars on progress for your character and losing it.

Blow a 3-1 lead if old
Last edited by Drillary Clinton; 09-19-2017 at 10:06 PM.
epmode
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(09-19-2017, 09:31 PM)
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I'm not really into sports games but what I saw of 2K17, a full priced game, was already disgusting. This industry can be awful sometimes.
Zombie James
(09-19-2017, 09:31 PM)
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Another franchise that wants it's $60 cake with free-to-play icing. Fuck this.
Griss
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(09-19-2017, 09:32 PM)
Absolutely disgusting. No place for this in a 60 dollar release.

Was considering this for switch, but now I wouldn't touch it with a pole.
Future PhaZe
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(09-19-2017, 09:32 PM)
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THANK GOD

this is the most scammy shit in gaming right now outside of cancerous kickstarters
thumb
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(09-19-2017, 09:33 PM)
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It's like it was made in Jim Sterling's nightmare.
Kenzodielocke
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(09-19-2017, 09:33 PM)
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Also, there is a 149Ä version you can buy digitally.
Sou Da
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(09-19-2017, 09:33 PM)
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This your chance, Live 18
family_guy
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(09-19-2017, 09:34 PM)
I'm glad I got 2K16 for free through PS Plus. I think I'm good on basketball games this gen.
Gridlock
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(09-19-2017, 09:35 PM)
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This is a major turn off and a growing worry of mine going forward.
Drillary Clinton
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(09-19-2017, 09:35 PM)
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Imagine being someone who buys the game post-release date, or gets it for Christmas. You're pretty much forced to buy VC if you want to be remotely competitive.
Stabby McSter
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(09-19-2017, 09:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by epmode

I'm not really into sports games but what I saw of 2K17, a full priced game, was already disgusting. This industry can be awful sometimes.

think of those

but 10x worse
NegativeCero
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(09-19-2017, 09:35 PM)
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I've heard this as a criticism for a while. I can only hope that people start getting sick of this garbage and affect their bottom line and hopefully force them to change it.
SatoAilDarko
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(09-19-2017, 09:36 PM)
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How was it in the first game that started this virtual currency, 2K13?
bigkrev
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(09-19-2017, 09:37 PM)
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I'm so thankful I don't care about Career modes of Ultimate Team modes in Sports games.
PROh1bited
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(09-19-2017, 09:37 PM)
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It's pathetic that hair types and facial hair was free before, but now you have to dish out VC for it. 2K has had now taken this shit too far.
CountAntonius
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(09-19-2017, 09:37 PM)
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2k would make enough money just selling cosmetics shame they decided to throw VC into skill points and mess with the game like that.
Zombie James
(09-19-2017, 09:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by NegativeCero

I've heard this as a criticism for a while. I can only hope that people start getting sick of this garbage and affect their bottom line and hopefully force them to change it.

The frist step would be to have reviewers bring attention to it and dock the game for it. Asking video game journalists to do their job is a hard sell, though.
Drillary Clinton
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(09-19-2017, 09:37 PM)
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Originally Posted by SatoAilDarko

How was it in the first game that started this virtual currency, 2K13?

I don't remember it being this bad. Without purchasing VC I had my player at around a 91 within weeks of release. That was also before they added the park and had all kinds of cosmetic options.
ScaryShark
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(09-19-2017, 09:38 PM)
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It's been this way for several years now. It was a very easy franchise for me to walk away from because VC is everywhere in it. Online and offline modes.

Based on the way the series sells, the vast majority of people are 100% okay with it.
zuf
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(09-19-2017, 09:39 PM)
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Riddle me this.

Did a double take when I saw a premium version on the Switch store for like £130. Never seen a digital game that expensive before.
Jeronimo Jones
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(09-19-2017, 09:39 PM)
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I like playing video game basketball and 2K has been running that for years...but I refuse to pay for VC and I don't really care for playing online so I'm almost forced to stick to modes that have less intrusive microtransactions.

I couldn't tell you if this year is worse or not, but the VC heavy modes in general have turned me off for years.
Oersted
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(09-19-2017, 09:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by Kenzodielocke

Also, there is a 149Ä version you can buy digitally.

Wait what. How do they "justify" that price? Some limited character bullshit?
Courage
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(09-19-2017, 09:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by Drillary Clinton

Imagine being someone who buys the game post-release date, or gets it for Christmas. You're pretty much forced to buy VC if you want to be remotely competitive.

This kinda sours me on eventually getting it on a Steam sale or something. Wanted to try out the new neighborhood mode in MyPark but I guess not anymore.

Speaking of, it's getting trashed on Steam.
RichiRamjag
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(09-19-2017, 09:40 PM)
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This is the exact reason Iíve not purchased it.
NegativeCero
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(09-19-2017, 09:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by ScaryShark

Based on the way the series sells, the vast majority of people are 100% okay with it.

It's frustrating because I love basketball to the point that I try to watch a game every night when the season starts and watch archived games. 2K is the only game in town for fans (for right now) and as a big fan, it sucks.
BigBoss007
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(09-19-2017, 09:41 PM)
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More and more of this bullshit. And we, players, still bait.
Diancecht
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(09-19-2017, 09:42 PM)
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Go fuck yourself 2K. I am buying LIVE this year.
Drillary Clinton
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(09-19-2017, 09:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by ScaryShark

It's been this way for several years now. It was a very easy franchise for me to walk away from because VC is everywhere in it. Online and offline modes.

Based on the way the series sells, the vast majority of people are 100% okay with it.

Not just ok with it, but will go to bat for it.
manzoman96
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(09-19-2017, 09:42 PM)
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NBA Live should come out at $40. Lots more people would give it a try, especially with this.
Ascenion
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(09-19-2017, 09:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by Oersted

Wait what. How do they "justify" that price? Some limited character bullshit?

Limited Shaq items and stuff in game also some physical stuff (poster, lithograph, cards).

Oh and 250,000 VC.
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(09-19-2017, 09:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by Future PhaZe

THANK GOD

this is the most scammy shit in gaming right now outside of cancerous kickstarters

I'm really sorry all these talented people without money that finally found a way to fund their projects are causing you so much trouble.
NoctisVsStar
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(09-19-2017, 09:42 PM)
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The crazy thing is a lot of people I know have no issues with currency... wanna know why? Cause all they play is cod and 2k year around. So all their income goes into that and I'm sure plenty of people are like that.

For the record not defending this type of business but 2k isn't even stressing this.. so they ain't gonna bother responding to Kotaku or anyone for that matter.
FinalStageBoss
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(09-19-2017, 09:42 PM)
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First one I'm skipping in some time tbh. Fuck VC.
slabrock
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(09-19-2017, 09:43 PM)
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Stopped buying them a couple of years ago. The VC system is just broken.
Ahasverus
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(09-19-2017, 09:43 PM)
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Fuck micro transactions in single player modes for games that sell for $60.

Not that devs are getting paid better, all this garbage is doing is paying for larger pools for those shiny executives.

Fuck it all.
Conkerkid11
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(09-19-2017, 09:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by NegativeCero

I've heard this as a criticism for a while. I can only hope that people start getting sick of this garbage and affect their bottom line and hopefully force them to change it.

The whales don't stop
norm9
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(09-19-2017, 09:43 PM)
I stopped at 2k15. It was becoming too much of a burden to level up your player.
Sora the Cat
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(09-19-2017, 09:43 PM)
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Wow, I'm out. Wanted to jump back in but I didn't know these 2k games were like this nowadays.
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(09-19-2017, 09:44 PM)
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Dangansona
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(09-19-2017, 09:44 PM)
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Aw, no comment 2K?
NoctisVsStar
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(09-19-2017, 09:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sora the Cat

Wow, I'm out. Wanted to jump back in but I didn't know these 2k games were like this nowadays.

It's been like that for years.
Fred-87
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(09-19-2017, 09:44 PM)
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I was very interested in playing a NBA 2k game for the first time but they lost me. Whats the point. I understand some micro transactions but this is game broken. If NBA is same like fifa then i know its useless to play with such low stats. And to either pay money or play hooooours for just 1 or 2 stat upgrades is ridiculous. So it means either pay or play a broken product. Well i will never play a nba 2k game i guess.
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(09-19-2017, 09:45 PM)
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Disgusting

Zero respect for their base
Metalmarc
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(09-19-2017, 09:45 PM)
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Oh thank god I don't ever play those modes in any of the Sports games.

Just basically seems like they put a topps trading card type mode or top trumps.
Dubz
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(09-19-2017, 09:45 PM)
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I've bough the game every year for the last 7 years, and I've now had enough. I can not support this anti consumer shit anymore.
NoctisVsStar
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(09-19-2017, 09:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dangansona

Aw, no comment 2K?

Why would they? The fanbase clearly has no issues with it despite being so egregious money hungry on their end.
ScaryShark
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(09-19-2017, 09:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dangansona

Aw, no comment 2K?

"This is one of the best selling annual franchises in the world and people are spending hundreds and thousands of dollars on top of the $60 up front every single time we put a new one out. GG?"

Originally Posted by OdysseusVA

Disgusting

Zero respect for their base

Their base loves VC. Clearly.
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(09-19-2017, 09:46 PM)
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Originally Posted by manzoman96

NBA Live should come out at $40. Lots more people would give it a try, especially with this.

It already did at that price. It's $60 now, but it was $40 for any pre-orders.
Frozenprince
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(09-19-2017, 09:48 PM)

Originally Posted by Metalmarc

Oh thank god I don't ever play those modes in any of the Sports games.

Just basically seems like they put a topps trading card type mode or top trumps.

It's in regular game modes too. A lot of important features in RealGM are locked behind VC.

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