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Conker available for use in Project Spark
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Microsoft just shot themselves in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about American culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in Europe or Asia where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in America, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the American public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to play Project Spark, nor will they purchase any XB1 games or systems. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Microsoft has alienated an entire market with this move.
Microsoft, publicly apologize and announce a new Conker game for XB1 or you can kiss your business goodbye.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about American culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in Europe or Asia where you can become successful by being an asshole. If you screw someone over in America, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the American public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to play Project Spark, nor will they purchase any XB1 games or systems. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Microsoft has alienated an entire market with this move.
Microsoft, publicly apologize and announce a new Conker game for XB1 or you can kiss your business goodbye.
Trunchisholm
Member
I very much doubt, after Seavor was sacked from Rare, that he'd be willing to simply work on a paltry Conker PS pack. It seems to me that MS is finally listening to the right people. I'm sure Ken Lobb has to do as much as Phil Spencer, if not more, with all the right moves they're making in terms of putting their existing IP to good use. This is the first time in years I'm excited about anything Rare.
PanicFreak
Member
They announced Phantom Dust. A remake to a game that sold like 70000 copies because they saw it on Twitter a lot. That's not exactly out of touch.
However the way they presented the Conker thing was a let down. They could have said "hey, we put Conker in Project Spark!" And had him show up in a live demo or something.
It did look like an announcement was coming.
Hopefully they bring back more Rare remakes.
lol
Alx
Member
I'm not entirely familiar with Conker's content, but Project Spark is a very powerful tool that could recreate most platformer gameplays and environments. Specific things like Mario Sunshine and its mud removal may not be possible, but a character running/jumping/climbing around should be easy enough (especially now that you can create your own animations with kinect).
Project Spark doesn't support multi-level games at the moment though, but it is planned for future updates.
Oh and people are still complaining about the E3 trailer ? Ok it was deceptive and left many people disappointed, but it's not the end of the world.
Exotoro
Member
hahaha alright keep living in your little world
Banjo-Kazooie
Member
Never gets old haha. Thumbsup.gif
edit: I feel I should tell people who might not be familiar with this that it's a meme on here
Well damn...
Banjo-Kazooie
Member
Dee Dah Dave
Member
I actually see it being quite cool to have a make your own Conker tool set within Project Spark.
Still a huge kick in the nuts though and should never have been announced during the E3 conference.
Still a huge kick in the nuts though and should never have been announced during the E3 conference.
REMEMBER CITADEL
Banned
Maybe he had a cold.
I kind of get why some people are upset, but in my book something is still far better than nothing. Besides, I'm sure that we'll get a new Conker game eventually, it's one of the most requested Rare properties, if not the most requested.
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As I said before, I am 100% sure we will get a real new Conker this generation.
And now, I am at 117%.
Eh. Until it's announced I'm not assuming anything. It's reminding me of all the teasing Sony has been doing recently (vib-ribbon, crash, etc). Hopefully something comes of that tho, Phil has been doing good things lately
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
As I said before, I am 100% sure we will get a real new Conker this generation.
And now, I am at 117%.
Giving them the assets doesn't stop them from doing anything with him.
But lack of the original talent that made him, disinterest in pursuing anything other than the shooting and driving crowd, and lack of internal studios does.
As I said before, I am 100% sure we will get a real new Conker this generation.
And now, I am at 117%.
This non-answer is like asking Microsoft whether a Tiptup game is possible.
Sparrowhawk
Member
As I said before, I am 100% sure we will get a real new Conker this generation.
And now, I am at 117%.
Conker Titanfall DLC confirmed.
The community is saved.
PanicFreak
Member
Wasn't their first reboot Killer Instinct? Yes. Yes it was.
lol
What do people expect?
Posting on Twitter and announcing a new game due to a random tweet question?
So far, Phil was always very clever with his tweets. He made various hints about Halo MCC, Horizon 2, Phantom Dust and so on. I am not saying it will happen but ... It will.
As I said before, I am 100% sure we will get a real new Conker this generation.
And now, I am at 117%.
Hahaha, yeah no. That's a non answer and no way suggest that a new Conker games is in the work.
Well they did get the original voice actor back for that announcement didn't they?
Alx
Member
"Lack of original talent" shouldn't be an issue. It's not like the 90s had the exclusivity on good game creators, and that those who leave can't be replaced.
The genre may be a bigger problem indeed, because you don't see that many action/platformers any more. Or their gameplay changed a lot with time (Assassin's Creed, Crackdown or Infamous are no Conker). Publishers probably consider there's no market big enough for the genre any more. Maybe they're wrong, or maybe not.
As for internal studios... well they outsourced Killer Instinct and the result isn't half bad.
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
You're right, hiring V/O artist is like, 90% of the project done.
EDIT:
Some people think that the Telltale Monkey Island and Sam & Max games are great, but I don't.
They lack the wit of the originals and come off like half-rate fanfics.
I don't trust in 'fans of the original' replicating the original.
Crackdown.
And other talented developers can't make a new Conker because?
iceatcs
Junior Member
He got a lot of twitters from the fans but only reply if it is part of future plan. Simple but effective like you thought he's so clever or some thought Phil doing all the job.
hooijdonk17
Member
As I said before, I am 100% sure we will get a real new Conker this generation.
And now, I am at 117%.
It doesn't stop them but something obviously is, so why doesn't he stfu and just make that game if he can or come out and say it like a man?
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
Blues Brothers 2000 was fucking awful.
Bomber Bob
Banned
Conker minecraft dayz incoming
Alx
Member
I don't either. That's why one shouldn't count on "fans", but on people able to bring their own touch to the game, and probably make it better. Or at least make it different (why would we want the same game anyway ?)
Seing a serie as something sacred that should be truthful to the original and only handled by the original creators is the best way to tie their hands.
Killer Instinct was great.
Play Killer Instinct and get back to me.
Conker is Seavor, without him there's no need to even begin to entertain the idea of making a sequel or anything.
Proof of that is that they actually contacted him to do the voicework because even at MSFT they know that without Seavor Conker is nothing that interesting to begin with.
Better ask for a Banjo sequel or something else entirely, Conker without Seavor is pretty much not Conker.
I'm not speaking about the VA here but the script really and everything about it.
Proof of that is that they actually contacted him to do the voicework because even at MSFT they know that without Seavor Conker is nothing that interesting to begin with.
Better ask for a Banjo sequel or something else entirely, Conker without Seavor is pretty much not Conker.
I'm not speaking about the VA here but the script really and everything about it.
Why get him at all for a single announcement?
MrNyarlathotep
Banned
I guess you guys think that Conker is fondly remembered for its mechanics and not for being an 'of the moment' zeitgeist parody of current trends.
REMEMBER CITADEL
Banned
Ridiculous. For starters, you are in a Project Spark thread.
Anyway, in other news, Rare are now looking for a new Art Director, Lead Services Programmer, and a Principal Rendering Engineer.
Killer Instinct wasn't solely dependent on it's key visionary to build it's world and the writing.
Conker was not memorable because of it's game play.
Star Wars Episode 1-3 sucked, while the 2 new Star Trek movies were - while quite 'different' - great fun for me (and my girlfriend!).
in no way am i saying that i think a new Conker game's going to be good or even made, though.