Not on Knack either.
Adam Boyes said they're looking into it, and there's some inconsistencies on the use of these for launch titles (such as remote play missing)
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COD Ghosts Xbox One offline (2 weeks before launch) not possible without Live?
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Adam Boyes said they're looking into it, and there's some inconsistencies on the use of these for launch titles (such as remote play missing)
It just proves they seem to have no standard when it comes to listing features on the back of the box.
supaflyryguy
Member
Again, I'm not saying it'll clarify the answer, as I never mentioned the word clarify or anything like it in my post, but it'll catch everyone up on why this seemingly innocuous thread is nearly 20 pages.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
It will clarify what the fuss is about at this point though.
It sounds like Blizzivision doesn't have confidence in whatever DRM scheme MS has come up with for X1.
Arrogant Bastard
Banned
Not on Knack either.
Oh crap, Knack does not have Offline support enabled on the box! New thread!
/sarcasm
Online Play (optional) seems like it be for vanilla SP/MP split games.
Offline Play Enabled sounds to me like Destiny/Dark Souls/Watchdogs games that seamlessly mix MP into SP but can be completely completed offline.
Either way one of those uses was used wrong there.
Albert pretty much said that here and that he'd clarify what the problem is.
FaintColt388301
Member
I'm surprised Sony hasn't jumped on yet another chance to make MS look worse. Somebody wake up Shu and have him write a tweet about how PS4 doesn't do this
This is pointless. Not everything has to be filtered through the lens of the warz.
What's there to jump on? The issue is still unclear.
Edit: That and it would be highly unprofessional to poke at something like this.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
Ruh roh.
Looking at his twitter feed, he's getting drunk with Cerny in east village...
Sword Of Doom
Member
I'm not making assumptions. This is already happening on the 360 and I'm not sure if Sony is doing it as well. You don't think it's wrong for a corporation to take away something you have paid for without taking you to court?
Arrogant Bastard
Banned
Explain, in detail and then I will comment.
Goodacre0081
Member
I think they fucked up with designing around DRM to begin with.
I agree. I was enjoying* MAG until Sony took it offline. It was terrible I could not longer play a game a paid money for.
*this is a lie. I never enjoyed MAG.
disastermouse
Banned
Question periods? Can you confirm that either English isn't your first language (which is totally okay and explains your idiosyncratic word choices) or you're Skynet and you're slowly learning English on GAF.
MaulerX
Member
We already know that every XB1 shipped comes with the 24 hr DRM check in. To remove this, it needs the Day One Patch. By virtue of Target's fuck up, people got the system early, and consequently, Microsoft blocked those systems from logging into XBL. The guy confirmed that he could play SP offline (after Ban) just not MP (obviously).
Now 24 hrs later he can no longer play SP offline. Is it so hard to figure out? The update he got initially more than likely was not the Day One Patch. Maybe an update related to the beta testing.
Now 24 hrs later he can no longer play SP offline. Is it so hard to figure out? The update he got initially more than likely was not the Day One Patch. Maybe an update related to the beta testing.
Yeah. There was going to be no offline mode at all. Online always or GTFO. And a ban would have had this effect.
SwiftDeath
Member
Not on Knack either.
Remote play was missing from Knacks box and has been heavily advertised/seen
SRTtoZ
Member
lol at this reply to Penello.
Darcy R Parker ‏@darcyrparker 1h
@albertpenello @mos6142 @HernyFood
Gotta ask the technical fellows, Al? Or going to ask people who exist this time?
Arrogant Bastard
Banned
Do not link me a broad policy.
What is your issue with the policy that you linked? How does it pertain to the discussion at hand.
Brain of J
Banned
Yes, Microsoft's goal was to ban everybody from ever playing video games ever again. Damn, they were so close...lol. /s
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
I've updated the OP. Is that all of the information?
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Done sweetheart
the fuck?
Goodacre0081
Member
what does this mean for regular console bans post-launch, will those systems be bricked like this one?
"Some speculated that he might have fainted and hit the return with his forehead but that's purely speculation at this point."
LOL. You just had to, didn't you?
Because it's the middle of the night....?
Just missing Alberts actual post In response to killing joke:
...and they'd have gotten away with it, too! If it hadn't been for meddling GAF kids!
Neuromancer
Member
Looks fine on my iPad from 10 feet away.
D
Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
Why aren't people raising more of a shit over the fact that Microsoft remotely bricked this guy's console until they feel he should be allowed to use it? Did he acquire the product illegally? Sure, it's before street date, but he still paid for the damn thing, didn't he? Whose to say Microsoft won't use this new power of theirs in other scenarios where they find people doing things they don't approve of?
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
Find it and I'll post it. LOL
I didn't expect that they would keep a DRM option at the game level.
But if this is true, then it makes some earlier suspicions I had more likely to me. Microsoft had decided to remove the DRM months ago and could have already had the DRM patch included in the initial firmware placed on the consoles way back then since there was so much time to go (this decision was before the upclocks, so the consoles were definitely still in the early stages and able to still have a later version of initial firmware installed). Sony also has a day one patch but doesn't require it before the console can be used offline and MS could have done the same thing.
I think that Microsoft wants every console to have to sign in at least once. What their reasons would be, I don't know - they could be completely innocent intentions. But they don't need to hide this want to have every console have an initial connection behind excuses that they could not get this DRM removal and ability to be offline onto the consoles with all the months they had to do it. I guess this would only apply to the initial batch of consoles, unless in the future they do something where every new console has to initially connect just once in the beginning in order to "activate" it. Probably that won't happen, but I still think they like this patch excuse to at least get the initial batch of consoles connecting, maybe so they can get a picture of how many customers are connecting, what connection speeds they have, where they are located geographically, etc.
But if this is true, then it makes some earlier suspicions I had more likely to me. Microsoft had decided to remove the DRM months ago and could have already had the DRM patch included in the initial firmware placed on the consoles way back then since there was so much time to go (this decision was before the upclocks, so the consoles were definitely still in the early stages and able to still have a later version of initial firmware installed). Sony also has a day one patch but doesn't require it before the console can be used offline and MS could have done the same thing.
I think that Microsoft wants every console to have to sign in at least once. What their reasons would be, I don't know - they could be completely innocent intentions. But they don't need to hide this want to have every console have an initial connection behind excuses that they could not get this DRM removal and ability to be offline onto the consoles with all the months they had to do it. I guess this would only apply to the initial batch of consoles, unless in the future they do something where every new console has to initially connect just once in the beginning in order to "activate" it. Probably that won't happen, but I still think they like this patch excuse to at least get the initial batch of consoles connecting, maybe so they can get a picture of how many customers are connecting, what connection speeds they have, where they are located geographically, etc.
Welcome to next-gen
FaintColt388301
Member
His issue is that if your console gets banned you cannot go back and download games that you paid for because the ban prevents it. Had you bought a physical copy you could still play your game that you paid for. If you had it loaded on your system you could play it. But all the games you don't have on the hard drive are gone forever. The products you spent money on are taken away from you.
I think this is his point. Along with the fact that they can just lock you out of your own system. As said before what console banning would have been like without the 180 would have been awful. It'd brick your console. You wouldn't have access to any games or features whatsoever
We've been over this. Yes, but they hooked the dude up, he's cool w/ it, etc, etc. They explained what they did and why.
This dude's story has evolved, which leads us to where we're at.
Askherserenity
Member
Yup. Not his fault at all. Target just shipped it to him early. I would've plugged it in too.
Maybe they knew there was still some fucked up stuff going on with the system so they just decided to brick his. I dunno.
yes but people ignore it to speculation on ridiculous things
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
Oh, so he got it from Microsoft, and didn't spend his own money? Did he break some kind of agreement with them or something? Why would they have to ban a console that they gave to him?
Either way, the fact that they have this power and have already shown that they're willing to use it is not comforting.