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Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition |OT| Durante Does In 23 Minutes What From Can't

Sullichin

Member
The steam forums will literally implode when all those people realise the game is locked a 1024*720.

pretty sure everyone knows, look at the forums now :p

Indigo - small suggestion, in the links section, maybe make the two last links (the Wikis) stand out more or listed first. They're definitely more useful resources than the other links.
 
Wait, so did they bump up the unlock for GMG? Last I saw it was to be unlocked at 12:01 AM on the 24th, but now I don't see it on the game page. It unlocks sooner on Steam?
 

Ysiadmihi

Banned
Can't wait. Crappy port or not, I've been wanting to play this for awhile and it from the videos I've seen of the console version, even 30fps will definitely be worth the wait.
 

JVIDICAN

Member
Wait, so did they bump up the unlock for GMG? Last I saw it was to be unlocked at 12:01 AM on the 24th, but now I don't see it on the game page. It unlocks sooner on Steam?

About 25 hours from now, I guess. Not as good as midnight tonight, but not as bad as midnight tomorrow. Steams listed date was throwing me off. :/
 

Aselith

Member
No clue why they would even bother releasing it in that state or why they would have gone through with the port in the first place. If this is true and you folks have a console sitting around collecting dust, it's worth picking up.

I bought two copies the day it came out. I was planning to buy two copies on the day THIS came out but they seem to have failed me. I'm in wait and see mode at the moment. I can't in good conscience support a garbage port.

I actually skipped buying it on preorder sales because I WANTED to pay full price to support From.
 

Revenile

Member
-Reports says the port is not well optimized(having framerate issues even with high end gpus and cpus)

I have only seen maybe two reports of this being even remotely a case, while the 7 others I've read all say it ran smooth. But then again to some pc gamers 30fps, smooth or not, is broken and not well optimized.
 

antitrop

Member
If it comes from From themselves then I will get it sooner than later. I wont reward them for the community fixing their mess.
That doesn't make any sense to me. I don't know why you're trying to qualify your purchase with some kind of random criteria based on morals.

It's a fucking video game, not women's rights.
 

antitrop

Member
That they should fix their mistakes, not the fans, but this is unlikely, because lol GFWL.
That's not the part that wasn't clear to me. I don't understand why it has to be an issue of "right or wrong", either play the game or don't.

I don't understand the purpose of trying to take some kind of moral high-ground and make a statement. It's a fucking video game, if it's good and you want to play it, play it, if you don't, don't.
 

gdt

Member
Preordered from GMG. I wont be getting to it till I beat Darksiders II though. Hope to hear some surprisingly decent impressions...
 

Ciastek3214

Junior Member
That's not the part that wasn't clear to me. I don't understand why it has to be an issue of "right or wrong", either play the game or don't.

I don't understand the purpose of trying to take some kind of moral high-ground and make a statement. It's a fucking video game, if it's good and you want to play it, play it, if you don't, don't.

Well, there are also standards, some people know that if this port sell well then this will pretty much tell them not to bother with good PC ports.
 

Zaventem

Member
From should of just stuck with Atlus as their publisher.They game would of probably never be ported they wouldn't be forced to make a rushed port.Huge mistake bringing it to PC.
 

antitrop

Member
Where did he attach right or wrong to it?
From his point of view:

From patching the game to fix launch mistakes: Right

Community releasing unofficial patch to fix From's mistakes: Wrong

If it's "right" he will buy the game, if it's "wrong" he will not buy the game.
 

Hypron

Member
Steam tricked me into thinking the game was going to be released on the 23rd in my region. Well it wasn't, it was the 23rd in the US. I was severly disappointed when I heard that...
 

Ciastek3214

Junior Member
From his point of view:

From patching the game to fix launch mistakes: Right

Community releasing unofficial patch to fix From's mistakes: Wrong

If it's "right" he will buy the game, if it's "wrong" he will not buy the game.

There is nothing moral about buying the game or not, it's business.
 
From should of just stuck with Atlus as their publisher.They game would of probably never be ported they wouldn't be forced to make a rushed port.Huge mistake bringing it to PC.

I sometimes wonder if Namco has a lot more to do with Dark Souls existing than we are led to believe. I so wish Atlus was responsible as well.
 

antitrop

Member
There is nothing moral about buying the game or not, it's business.
From Software does not give a shit if LiquidMetal14 buys the game.

Attaching stipulations to your purchase criteria to try to make a statement is patently ridiculous when your opinion is in the extreme minority.
 

Sentenza

Member
From should of just stuck with Atlus as their publisher.They game would of probably never be ported they wouldn't be forced to make a rushed port.Huge mistake bringing it to PC.
Yeah, it's not like the mistake was doing a damn shitty job or anything...
No, the problem was definitely wanting the game on PC.
 

xJavonta

Banned
I'll probably pick it up during a sale for $10. But until there's a hack that allows me to run it at native res I'm not paying full price.

Those of you who did buy it, enjoy it.
 

Ciastek3214

Junior Member
From Software does not give a shit if LiquidMetal14 buys the game.

Attaching stipulations to your purchase criteria to try to make a statement is patently ridiculous when your opinion is in the extreme minority.

Then why bother arguing about it? If From doesn't care, then neither should you.
 

Aselith

Member
From Software does not give a shit if LiquidMetal14 buys the game.

Attaching stipulations to your purchase criteria to try to make a statement is patently ridiculous when your opinion is in the extreme minority.

Why do you think it's to make a statement? Maybe he just doesn't wsnt to support shitty work?

That's my personal stance.
 

antitrop

Member
Why do you think it's to make a statement? Maybe he just doesn't wsnt to support shitty work?

That's my personal stance.
Because he SPECIFICALLY SAID that it's to make a statement.

He said he would buy the game if From patches it, but not if the community patches it.

If it comes from From themselves then I will get it sooner than later. I wont reward them for the community fixing their mess.

Am I the only one who's reading? He's specifically stating that even if the community releases a patch that fixes the experience, he won't buy it in order to try to make some kind of statement to From Software, as if they give a shit.
 

semsei

Neo Member
hello,
i just read an interview that might help some people choose:
blog.esuteru.com/archives/6553732.html

Q)DARK SOULS with ARTORIAS OF THE ABYSS EDITION(Games for Windows LIVE版)で、画面サイズをフルスクリーン表示やウィンドウ表示に変更できますか?
(Can you change the display resolution to full screen or window screen size?)

A)はい、可能です。オプション設定から、画面のサイズを変更できます。変更できるサイズは以下の通りです。
(Yes, you can. In the configuration options, you can change the size of the screen. Size can be changed as follows.)
  フルスクリーン表示 (fullscreen)
   1920×1080 32bit/16bit、 1680×1050 32bit/16bit、 1400×1050 32bit/16bit、
   1600×900 32bit/16bit、 1280×1024 32bit/16bit、 1440×900 32bit/16bit、
   1366×768 32bit/16bit、 1360×768 32bit/16bit、 1280×800 32bit/16bit、
   1280×768 32bit/16bit、 1280×720 32bit/16bit、 1024×768 32bit/16bit、 800×600 32bit/16bit
  ウィンドウ表示 (window)
   1920×1080、 1680×945、 1600×900、 1440×810、
   1280×720、 1152×648、 1024×576、 800×450
 

Jarnet87

Member
Wish I hadn't sold my Dark Souls copy now knowing that the content will eventually make it to DLC. Maybe they will have a GOTY edition or something for 30 or 40 bucks.
 

Guevara

Member
The takeaway here will be "PC gamers don't buy games".

This game sold well on the consoles, the port is arguably better than the console version (if only slightly), and there's a pre-existing narrative already held by publishers that PC gamers are all pirates (see the Ubisoft thread from earlier today).

No on will get the nuanced message that the problem here is the quality of the port.
 

gdt

Member
hello,
i just read an interview that might help some people choose:
blog.esuteru.com/archives/6553732.html

Q)DARK SOULS with ARTORIAS OF THE ABYSS EDITION(Games for Windows LIVE版)で、画面サイズをフルスクリーン表示やウィンドウ表示に変更できますか?
(Can you change the display resolution to full screen or window screen size?)

A)はい、可能です。オプション設定から、画面のサイズを変更できます。変更できるサイズは以下の通りです。
(Yes, you can. In the configuration options, you can change the size of the screen. Size can be changed as follows.)
  フルスクリーン表示 (fullscreen)
   1920×1080 32bit/16bit、 1680×1050 32bit/16bit、 1400×1050 32bit/16bit、
   1600×900 32bit/16bit、 1280×1024 32bit/16bit、 1440×900 32bit/16bit、
   1366×768 32bit/16bit、 1360×768 32bit/16bit、 1280×800 32bit/16bit、
   1280×768 32bit/16bit、 1280×720 32bit/16bit、 1024×768 32bit/16bit、 800×600 32bit/16bit
  ウィンドウ表示 (window)
   1920×1080、 1680×945、 1600×900、 1440×810、
   1280×720、 1152×648、 1024×576、 800×450

This doesn't mean anything. The framebuffer is set at 1024x720.
 

Hypron

Member
So on top of having a locked framebuffer it won't support upscale to resolutions above 1080p? I feel bad for the people with 1440p or 1600p screens...
 
hello,
i just read an interview that might help some people choose:
blog.esuteru.com/archives/6553732.html

Q)DARK SOULS with ARTORIAS OF THE ABYSS EDITION(Games for Windows LIVE版)で、画面サイズをフルスクリーン表示やウィンドウ表示に変更できますか?
(Can you change the display resolution to full screen or window screen size?)

A)はい、可能です。オプション設定から、画面のサイズを変更できます。変更できるサイズは以下の通りです。
(Yes, you can. In the configuration options, you can change the size of the screen. Size can be changed as follows.)
  フルスクリーン表示 (fullscreen)
   1920×1080 32bit/16bit、 1680×1050 32bit/16bit、 1400×1050 32bit/16bit、
   1600×900 32bit/16bit、 1280×1024 32bit/16bit、 1440×900 32bit/16bit、
   1366×768 32bit/16bit、 1360×768 32bit/16bit、 1280×800 32bit/16bit、
   1280×768 32bit/16bit、 1280×720 32bit/16bit、 1024×768 32bit/16bit、 800×600 32bit/16bit
  ウィンドウ表示 (window)
   1920×1080、 1680×945、 1600×900、 1440×810、
   1280×720、 1152×648、 1024×576、 800×450
It's going to render it as a low resolution and stretch it to whatever resolution you pick.
 

antitrop

Member
The takeaway here will be "PC gamers don't buy games".

This game sold well on the consoles, the port is arguably better than the console version (if only slightly), and there's a pre-existing narrative already held by publishers that PC gamers are all pirates (see the Ubisoft thread from earlier today).

No on will get the nuanced message that the problem here is the quality of the port.
Who's to say that the quality is affecting sales?

It's currently the second best selling game on all of Steam right now, in between CS: GO and Arma II.

I'd say they're probably going to make a huge profit off of this, especially with the relatively minimal financial investment.
 

Aselith

Member
Because he SPECIFICALLY SAID that it's to make a statement.

He said he would buy the game if From patches it, but not if the community patches it.



Am I the only one who's reading?

He said he wouldn't support them doing bad work that is fixed by someone else. Where did he say anything like, "Let's send a message!" Did I miss it?
 

Vesper73

Member
The takeaway here will be "PC gamers don't buy games".

This game sold well on the consoles, the port is arguably better than the console version (if only slightly), and there's a pre-existing narrative already held by publishers that PC gamers are all pirates (see the Ubisoft thread from earlier today).

No on will get the nuanced message that the problem here is the quality of the port.

PC gamers don't buy shitty ports.... Except for this one. :) I just love Dark Souls!!! /screams
 

Ciastek3214

Junior Member
Am I the only one who's reading? He's specifically stating that even if the community releases a patch that fixes the experience, he won't buy it in order to try to make some kind of statement to From Software, as if they give a shit.

Geez, what do you want from him? It's his choice, not like he's telling others to do that.
 

Zeal

Banned
Whelp, time to get back into the best game ever. So hyped to learn Artorias' story and actually fight this dude.

Oh and the resolution problem will be nothing. Only a matter of time before hackers put the game to 1080p and release a high resolution texture pack. Inevitable.
 

antitrop

Member
He said he wouldn't support them doing bad work that is fixed by someone else. Where did he say anything like, "Let's send a message!" Did I miss it?
Because if he didn't attach any strange stipulations to the purchase he would just buy the game if the community patch provided the reasonable experience he is looking for?

Geez, what do you want from him? It's his choice, not like he's telling others to do that.
It's his money, he can do whatever he wants with it, nobody can tell him otherwise. I just think it's incredibly strange to place arbitrary stipulations on the criteria for the purchase of a title.
 

Boogdud

Member
The cool thing about it is, you can look at the product page on steam, fullscreen the video and know exactly what the game is going to look like. That's convenient!
 

zkylon

zkylewd
hello,
i just read an interview that might help some people choose:
blog.esuteru.com/archives/6553732.html

Q)DARK SOULS with ARTORIAS OF THE ABYSS EDITION(Games for Windows LIVE版)で、画面サイズをフルスクリーン表示やウィンドウ表示に変更できますか?
(Can you change the display resolution to full screen or window screen size?)

A)はい、可能です。オプション設定から、画面のサイズを変更できます。変更できるサイズは以下の通りです。
(Yes, you can. In the configuration options, you can change the size of the screen. Size can be changed as follows.)
  フルスクリーン表示 (fullscreen)
   1920×1080 32bit/16bit、 1680×1050 32bit/16bit、 1400×1050 32bit/16bit、
   1600×900 32bit/16bit、 1280×1024 32bit/16bit、 1440×900 32bit/16bit、
   1366×768 32bit/16bit、 1360×768 32bit/16bit、 1280×800 32bit/16bit、
   1280×768 32bit/16bit、 1280×720 32bit/16bit、 1024×768 32bit/16bit、 800×600 32bit/16bit
  ウィンドウ表示 (window)
   1920×1080、 1680×945、 1600×900、 1440×810、
   1280×720、 1152×648、 1024×576、 800×450
Wait, so what about 16:10 resolutions? Sigh...
 

Ciastek3214

Junior Member
Because if he didn't attach any strange stipulations to the purchase he would just buy the game if the community patch provided the reasonable experience he is looking for?


It's his money, he can do whatever he wants with it, nobody can tell him otherwise. I just think it's incredibly strange to place arbitrary stipulations on the criteria for the purchase of a title.

I think you like using the word "stipulation" a little bit too much. Besides, as you said, it's a forum, people talk about things in whatever way they want (as long as it's legal).
 
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