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Hollywood studios caught pirating movies on BitTorrent

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raindoc

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It's only stealing if you were actually going to buy the item in the first place. I'd never in my right mind pay for the items on those lists. Happy Feet 2? You'd have to pay me to see that.

if it wasn't available "for free", more people would buy it, hence pirates steal customers.

but more importantly: is asshole fever worth it?
 

Realyn

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I guess what he means when referring to "digital items" is that by downloading something that you were never going to buy, the studio aren't losing any money directly. Whereas stealing a Ferrari would be because the company is directly losing money as they now have one less physical item to sell to someone who would pay money for it, which makes sense.

Not saying I agree.

Well that doesn't make sense either.

A Ferrari costs money to produce. So does every Movie, Game and so on.

edit:I mean I know what you are referring to, but don't think it's right, just because a movie is "digital" after is has been created.
 

rjc571

Banned
The chick in that asshole fever video looks somewhat like Brittany Murphy.
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Probably can't post the rest of the screengrabs, lol.
 

hateradio

The Most Dangerous Yes Man
It's possible that they could be pretending to seed to catch IP addresses, but the porn is clearly telling otherwise.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
There is absolutely no shortage of people in Hollywood who pirate and share as much content as they can. I can't tell you how many times someone has announced in my office that they've downloaded some leaked album and throw it on a USB drive to give to anyone even remotely interested.

They just want free shit.

On the same note, gotta love the people who get screeners and immediately start renting them out to coworkers. I'd love to know how much money Hollywood potentially loses from unintended viewers. The people scrambling to view Zero Dark Thirty on screener a week before the limited release would otherwise be an incredibly easy ticket sale.
 

Kinyou

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Weird way of arguing. If you are downloading something to consume it, you know what, you are still downloading it to consume it. You are just not paying for it. There is your harm ( besides ignoring rights).
You could still argue that there's no damage done. When some person who has 0$ watches the movie illegally he's violating the rights but he's not doing damage to anyone since there's no possibility for him buying it.

Also does Assholefever sound like a really nasty disease when you think about it
 
Who are these employees that are illegally downloading these movies, although? Are they executives or lowly worker bees with access to the Internet?
 

strobogo

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Jeff Who Lives at Home is pretty awesome.

The hell? That movie was terrible. And the interviews with Mark Duplass have kind of soured me on his character in The League just based on how douchey he (and his brother) comes off. But that movie. I was expecting SOMETHING good just based on the cast, but it was probably the most by the numbers, obvious, non challenging, non aspiring, boring, and tepid movie that wasn't for kids or a horror movie that I've seen in years. I watched the Half in the Bag review on it months after I saw it and it summed up pretty much everything I felt when I watched it.
 

black_13

Banned
Maybe they torrent their movies to catch the other IP's that are downloading them. Isn't that how piracy crackdown works?

Although doesn't make sense when they download other studio's movies.
 

Mario

Sidhe / PikPok
You could still argue that there's no damage done. When some person who has 0$ watches the movie illegally he's violating the rights but he's not doing damage to anyone since there's no possibility for him buying it.

Somebody who downloads GBs of data, has a device to watch it on, and the time to watch it probably doesn't have $0.
 

Tesseract

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ramembur inn betman bagans wan brute wash steel in den u liek aghnobrute why u do dis n hay actuarial steer from hamselfished?

dis liek dat.
 
The hell? That movie was terrible. And the interviews with Mark Duplass have kind of soured me on his character in The League just based on how douchey he (and his brother) comes off. But that movie. I was expecting SOMETHING good just based on the cast, but it was probably the most by the numbers, obvious, non challenging, non aspiring, boring, and tepid movie that wasn't for kids or a horror movie that I've seen in years. I watched the Half in the Bag review on it months after I saw it and it summed up pretty much everything I felt when I watched it.

Well then, good thing I missed out on it. I like the Duplass movies. But the trailer gave it a really generic indie movie feel.
 

Kinyou

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Somebody who downloads GBs of data, has a device to watch it on, and the time to watch it probably doesn't have $0.
True. It's a rather unrealistic example, though I think it shows how pirating and stealing are not quite the same thing.
 

Mario

Sidhe / PikPok
True. It's a rather unrealistic example, though I think it shows how pirating and stealing are not quite the same thing.

I agree they are not the same thing. I just think using unrealistic examples as a way of showing the distinction is poor given they are... unrealistic.

Anybody consuming pirated media has the ability to pay some amount for that media. Distribution issues aside, suggesting they could not be a paying customer is weak. They choose not to be a paying customer and proactively opt into piracy. And in doing so, they reinforce their behaviour and expectations of value.

The only argument I think I'd I'd accept for someone downloading but not being a potential customer is the "collector" who stores material but doesn't consume it (even then they still damage the ecosystem as a facilitator of piracy). If you actually consume content, you are ascribing value to it, regardless of whether you compensated the IP holder or not at any level.
 

Oersted

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You could still argue that there's no damage done. When some person who has 0$ watches the movie illegally he's violating the rights but he's not doing damage to anyone since there's no possibility for him buying it.

Also does Assholefever sound like a really nasty disease when you think about it

Damaging rights causes no harm. Ah yes. And when you bring up that wrong example ( if you are downloading something you have money to pay for a internet access, a PC, ... but none for a movie? ) America has quite some history of spending money without having it.
 
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Deleted member 13876

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The chick in that asshole fever video looks somewhat like Brittany Murphy.
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tHwKH.png

Probably can't post the rest of the screengrabs, lol.

Someone cross-reference this with Greg Land's art.
 

Kammie

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Thanks to TorrentFreak, now the studios are going to crack down on internet usage in their facilities. Life is going to become a lot more miserable for those employed there.
 
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