BabyFaceKillah
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sorry but $20 for a rental is idiotic... especially when i could get 2 games for as long as i want from gamefly for $24
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PS NOW. Rentals from US$2.99 to US$19.99.
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i lol'd
Sony is out of their fucking minds if they think people are going to rent games for twenty bucks.
Even a month for twenty is way too much
The_Reckoning
Member
Exactly, everyone is thinking small picture, I was thinking mid picture, but long term picture, I'm positive Sony will market this to 3rd parties. After all, the console game is low entry hardware to get the big money on games. This is a chance to do the same on devices that could never play the games, and are in everyone's home, regardless of being gamers or not. This is the conversion!
BoboBrazil
Member
$3 a day is a good business move. Takes a lot of the wind out of Redbox if you can rent the newest titles. That's much better for them than an all you can eat Netflix style membership.
GoofsterStud
Member
I'd do it.
This.
People need to stop saying Gamefly.
Gamefly is only useful if you want to play PS3-4 games, and if you have those consoles.
PS Now offering is different, and is mainly targeting at other groups without a console.
The PS3-4 owners are probably the minority focus group.
Sony is trying to do a set top box with Vita TV, addon for their TV lines, and into mobile devices: phone, Vita, tablet.
If parents can sub for their kids at $20/m to avoid buying console/game each year, they will probably do it.
Heck, probably MS fans will sub into it to try PS games they've never tried.
Zeuanimals
Member
I don't think that would work out well. $5-10 a month to play hundreds of games would either cripple a company or make them go broke having to run the servers with very limited payoff.
A sub at $20 a month wouldn't be an issue. But we are talking about $20 per month PER GAME.
OccamsLightsaber
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New game for 30 days?
Basileus777
Member
What publisher is going to put a new game on this service?
BoboBrazil
Member
$20 to rent a game for a month is fair. You would most likely have gotten all use out of the game within that month and beat it. You would have saved $40 vs buying it new. If you went to trade in that game after a month GameStop would definitely not give you $40.
anonymous_abc
Member
I'm only interested in this with a reasonable subscription plan. Per game rentals are of no interest to me.
NamikazeBurst
Member
Grimløck;115660265 said:
People said the beta had time slots, so I thought it cost money.
Thanks, this clarified it. What is the point of time slots in the beta? Only thing I can think of is to test the rental system. The open beta will still be free, right?
cpp_is_king
Member
Someone who plans to beat the entire game during the rental period, but doesn't want to pay $60 for it and doesn't plan to ever play it again after they beat it?
I own all of the consoles and happily pay $24 for gamefly. I am saying Sony is idiotic if they think I will pay $20 for a single game. Hell, $20 a month even for unlimited gaming for the "full library" of supported games is pushing it for me.
EDIT: ya'll are acting like I didn't get Infamous Second Son and Watch Dogs for PS4, and Wolfenstein for XBOX One on Wednesday of release week from Gamefly. I suppose I understand that they are going after a wider audience, but then why have they spent time in multiple E3's to hype this service?
intheinbetween
Member
19.90$ must be buying the license key, not rental
Zeuanimals
Member
And it's entirely reliant on your connection/their servers too. A bit much for one game. Hopefully they iron this out and find a consumer friendly way to do this because this is one of the ways the future of gaming can go.
The_Reckoning
Member
intheinbetween
Member
a sub at 20$ a month seems to me very expensive, having in mind we don't know yet the available games library
cpp_is_king
Member
How many people go out and pay $60 for a new game and play it for less than a month? Seems like a pretty good deal for those people.
Are you surprised?
IdreamofHIME
Member
When I worked at Blockbuster this kid would come in every Friday and rent and rerent Tony Hawk for the GCN.
He must have paid for the game 5 or 6 times in the time I worked there, lol.
NullPointer
Member
$20.
$20. In this day and age I can't fathom what a $20 rental could entail. I'm trying to fathom it for sure, but for me anyway it seems infathomable.
$20. In this day and age I can't fathom what a $20 rental could entail. I'm trying to fathom it for sure, but for me anyway it seems infathomable.
Pristine_Condition
Member
Obviously, they have no idea what pricing is going to shake out to work for consumers. Thus the beta. You can only do so many surveys and focus groups for pricing an online service. In the end, you have to push it out there to see what people will actually pay. Netflix and Hulu are still tweaking and trying different things and running promotions. The WWE Network is a more recent example.
unempLLOYD
Member
What about us europeans?
ZombiePlatypus
Member
WTF no.
BC should have been an outta the box feature. Considering how they dropped the ball, PSNow should just have a one-time fee that unocks the feature on your console for good. Any other model with timed availability feels like a cop-out, kinda of a "fuck you" to longtime fans, and a rip-off.
BC should have been an outta the box feature. Considering how they dropped the ball, PSNow should just have a one-time fee that unocks the feature on your console for good. Any other model with timed availability feels like a cop-out, kinda of a "fuck you" to longtime fans, and a rip-off.
DarthPrince
Member
Hmmm, where did this $20 a month come from? Maybe I missed it but that's all speculation right?
And just thinking out loud here but what if you can keep the game for as long as you want, but you need to return it in order to rent the next game.... kinda like how Amazon Prime rents out books. I'd be very willing to pay 20 bucks for say... assassins creed, wrap up the SP campaign, dabble in the MP for a bit and then return it. This is the same as buying the game for $60 and then selling/trading it in for $40. Of course the draw back is one game at a time might not be sufficient for some, but that's exactly what the "competition" Gamefly is offering atm.
And hey, if that's not it, maybe PS+ subscribers can get one free game rental a month or something. Wouldn't that be nice? =p
And just thinking out loud here but what if you can keep the game for as long as you want, but you need to return it in order to rent the next game.... kinda like how Amazon Prime rents out books. I'd be very willing to pay 20 bucks for say... assassins creed, wrap up the SP campaign, dabble in the MP for a bit and then return it. This is the same as buying the game for $60 and then selling/trading it in for $40. Of course the draw back is one game at a time might not be sufficient for some, but that's exactly what the "competition" Gamefly is offering atm.
And hey, if that's not it, maybe PS+ subscribers can get one free game rental a month or something. Wouldn't that be nice? =p
E3 is the biggest gaming show.
The mainstream media will talk about it, and later interview MS/Sony afterward about their E3 show, and their future plans.
Heck, Fox was literally hyping up the PS4 last year...A fricken conservative station.
Technology news site will have to talk about PS Now because it was part of Sony E3 show.
Financial news will ask about the current situation with sales, and why they offering new service like PS Now.
E3 isn't just for gamers.
It is all about media coverage tbh. Fans just help spread the hype faster.
People appear to frequently buy a new game, play it for less than a week, and then trade it back in for credit. These rentals may be targeted for these types of people and the $20 may approximate the loss of value between the purchase price and the trade-in price at Gamestop or some other game retailer.
Or perhaps they're targeting the people on the fence who might not be willing to buy a game at full price because they're not sure about it. These people might otherwise purchase a used copy, which earns the publishers nothing.
Or maybe it's both.
I don't know. It depends purely on who they're targeting with this, but the price point can easily change over time to find something that works better if $20 is too high.
matrixman92
Member
i was expecting this to be like 20 dollars a month for unlimited access to the ps now library, ill pass...this definitely isnt for me
The_Reckoning
Member
God Damn, it really feels like some of you are being purposefully obtuse. Stop being so thick! This is a long term deal, sorry your team didn't think of it.
Basileus777
Member
People are aware that this is a long term play for Sony. But that doesn't make the short term realities of this any more appealing. It's going to be some years before this service is more than a niche product.
DaSorcerer7
Member
$20 ...
zerokoolpsx
Member
$20 rentals? Yeah, they have no idea what to price rentals. $2.99 is more reasonable.
Streaming or rental services don't even charge $20 a month, let alone $20 a rental. LOL, that is crazy.
Streaming or rental services don't even charge $20 a month, let alone $20 a rental. LOL, that is crazy.
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Wait I thought $20 was an option to purchase games, lol what the fuck are they doing?
I wouldn't be surprised if the $20/month price sticks since you can get trophies in the Beta version so I could see people being willing to fork out $20 just to beat a new(ish) game and get all the trophies rather than pay full price (or even a similarly high used price) when the game first comes out.
Just watch.
Just watch.
EdwardTeach
Member
We need more details, what do Sony think we would pay 20 for?
I think there should be some way for the system to recognise games that you already own, and then allow you to use the through the service for free, or at a reduced rate. This probably couldn't work with boxed games as they can be resold, but should apply to anything bought through ps store.
I think there should be some way for the system to recognise games that you already own, and then allow you to use the through the service for free, or at a reduced rate. This probably couldn't work with boxed games as they can be resold, but should apply to anything bought through ps store.
matty2Dfraud
Banned
I feel like PSNow is happening too soon. It only makes sense to me if Sony is going to get out of consumer hardware and push this service to people on any device... which isn't going to be feasible in most of the world for some time. I also don't see a subscription model similar to Netflix working out for Sony or 3rd parties. Why PSNow right now? Really don't get it.
Joei
Member
People are saying 20$ rentals are stupid, but I really think it depends on the length of time you can have the game. What about people who buy new games for 50-60$, beat them, then turn around and sell them to a used record store, or Gamestop, etc? That could potentially be a much better value for them and could be the people being targeted here.
OmegaTreeFish
Banned
While a Netflix style service would be amazing I can't see it ever happening. I also can't see this current system being to popular either.
I think something in between is needed.
For example a really basic deal for PS+ members to get people to try the service such as one rental every 3 months.
Then tier it after that.
£5 month gets you 2 rentals.
£10 = 5 rentals
£15 = 10
£20 = unlimited.
Gets exponentially better and adaptive for different peoples needs.
Hopefully they test something like that as I see it as a fair balance.
I think something in between is needed.
For example a really basic deal for PS+ members to get people to try the service such as one rental every 3 months.
Then tier it after that.
£5 month gets you 2 rentals.
£10 = 5 rentals
£15 = 10
£20 = unlimited.
Gets exponentially better and adaptive for different peoples needs.
Hopefully they test something like that as I see it as a fair balance.