Principate
Saint Titanfall
Yeah... I don't think they are.
(yet)
And how long will that take to get out?
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Did Monolith Soft run over Square-Enix with 'X'?
- Thread starter mocolostrocolos
- Start date
And how long will that take to get out?
fluffydelusions
Member
Yeah... I don't think they are.
(yet
That was a tech demo running on hardware that will definitely NOT be on next gen hardware.
Even though Xenoblade has the exact same things, lol!
But seriously, it just looks like an "upgraded" Xenoblade. (that already had mechas anyway)
Yeah... I don't think they are.
(yet
Those are wonderful CG trailers of games that don't exist/we are no going to see in years!
Other people are comparing a developer that has released at least 50 games this generation to a developer that has released 6-7 (only one of which people actually care about). Square-Enix has released several good games this past generation. Unfortunately, their flagship Final Fantasy titles were not included on that list.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
I think we can say for sure it will be a very large JRPG, that's what Monolith Soft and the director of this game, does. And the game might be not semless (although the last bit indicates otherwise), but at the very least, offers much larger scenarios and a bigger scope.
What we saw is much larger than the largest single zone in FF XIII.
(also we know that Wii U is quite closer to 360/PS3 in terms of graphics)
Yeah... I don't think they are.
(yet
Yeah amazing technology for another Lighting game D:?!!!?!?!
TheChillyAcademic
Member
No, I think not.
That being said, taken by it's own merits it does look pretty damn good!
TheJollyCorner
Member
No. I'm talking about a company that still has a tremendous stable of artists and tech wizards; not the 'gameplay' aspect of it.
They should be embarrassed by the way Wada is currently running the company, but they are still producing some stunning looking products.
This.
Futuristic setting > fantasy setting in both wrpgs and jrpgs. Every genre actually.
It's Monolithsoft's (Xenoblade) new game. We don't know the title.
Zippedpinhead
Member
and by the time it comes out, I will have convinced the wife that we need a Wii U.
Well played Nintendo... well played...
Well played Nintendo... well played...
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Don't think Type 0 can really be compared to a console game.
Despite Type 0 being the only good new FF in recent years.
And yes comparing a tech demo to a game will get you nowhere. It's not like they will make use of the engine they pride themselves on.
Despite Type 0 being the only good new FF in recent years.
And yes comparing a tech demo to a game will get you nowhere. It's not like they will make use of the engine they pride themselves on.
TheJollyCorner
Member
see my last comment to kayos...
...and how do you know my secret identity?
Shoot me a PM!
? This game has mechs.
I'd say there's a little bit of relevance given that the principals in Monolith are ex-Square employees.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
I'm playing XIII-2 and I disagree....
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Under this ideology then Square Enix's inability to put out Versus in a timely manner in a console from a "lesser" generation than the WiiU is even more shocking.
In a fantasy looking area. That's not to say that I think it looks bad, because it's the opposite actually, but I will always be more excited for modern/futuristic/sci fi settings.
Meccanical
Member
He meant handheld products.
Nothing Toriyama does is stellar.
And I hope this topic doesn't start some kind of stupid fanbase war because I'm most likely getting both when they are released.
I think that MonolithSoft could overtake Square Enix if X if it plays as well as it looks and has an engaging story line. SE has really disappointed this last gen in the RPG department on home consoles with sequels no one really wanted and unreleased gems fans are still clamoring for.
We played different Xenoblades.
Holy Order Sol
Member
So basically we can't praise something without shitting on something else?
Hm. Well what we've seen of X looks a lot like Versus' outdoor areas...except better visuals, larger spaces, and of course, mechs.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
In all honesty SE is getting a lot of indirect shit recently. I mean... even NB is getting praise.
You try not to listen? I try not to be there bro.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
I wasn't talking about Toriyama inability to write something decent, I'm talking from a visual standpoint....
The game has some shinning moments, but a great part of it is incredibly dull with almost constant framedrops...
Academia constantly runs at 20fps...
It's Tetsuya Takahashi and this game already has a transforming mech. There will be sci-fi.
Meccanical
Member
Well SE is being pretty shit lately, no doubt about that.
XIII-2 is a cheap ass cash grab game, of course it looks less than stellar.
The water doesn't even react when you walk in it, I won't ever shut up about that because games in the fucking PS1 era can get that right but this game just fucking couldn't handle something that advanced I guess.
Could be a futuristic space colony. Highly-advanced town but untamed wilderness beyond the walls.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Project X Zone and recent Tales localizations do that.
Technically the towns weren't HD in Xenoblade, but they were huge, so that isn't a great point.
However, Xenoblade wasn't open world in the same way that something like Skyrim or Fallout New Vegas is. Areas were still segregated into maps, and you were still shunted to specific paths, even if the maps were larger than is typical for jrpgs.
JasoNsider
Member
You got me. This made me laugh. I also completely agree. I'm about 18 hours into Xenoblade and it's the best RPG I've played since FF7 (possibly better than Skies of Arcadia even) so far.
Every comparison is unfair. For Monolith.
They are a small company that managed to release a game with fucktons of content and huge areas, and they are about to release a second one.
Meanwhile, one of the biggest Japanese company can barely release a gameplay trailer for one of their most hyped game because they are too busy (according to Nomura) redoing Noctis's eyebrows or whatever.
It's pretty insulting for Takahashi and co.
They are a small company that managed to release a game with fucktons of content and huge areas, and they are about to release a second one.
Meanwhile, one of the biggest Japanese company can barely release a gameplay trailer for one of their most hyped game because they are too busy (according to Nomura) redoing Noctis's eyebrows or whatever.
It's pretty insulting for Takahashi and co.
Yeah my reaction too
Note sure if Mono run over SE.
but I think that in 6 months Nintendo japan studios did better job jumping into the HD era than what SCE Japan Studio done in 6 years.
tech-wise - on similar hardware too-this game for en example blow everything from SCEJ,which tell a lot about how bad SCEJ was this gen.
but I think that in 6 months Nintendo japan studios did better job jumping into the HD era than what SCE Japan Studio done in 6 years.
tech-wise - on similar hardware too-this game for en example blow everything from SCEJ,which tell a lot about how bad SCEJ was this gen.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
And this is the crux of the problem. People are quick on lambasting Square Enix for the apparent quality decrease in their games when they have bigger issues behind them, while, at the same time, the Versus apologists ignore the production problems behind their game of choice. Versus was announced in 2006 ffs.
Messofanego
Banned
I guess I'm ok with Monolith not making great horror games in favor for their softer Japanese division making great JRPGs.
lol
Versus is very likely to have an outdoors segment as shown in the video, so your point is completely lost on me. the dudes in the video are using mechs. mechs use fuel. this game looks much more sci-fi to me than FF does.
Jest Chillin
Member
I think "about to release" is being a bit generous though your other points are quite valid.
I think, however, this speaks more to SE's Creatives over complicating things rather than just following through.
Xenoblade has huge fucking towns, what?
Not running over, flying over.
I give my vote to X.
Versus will obviously have the better hair, though, and that's all that matters.