Considering the fact that tourist trophy was an extension of the GT world in terms of tracks, menus and engines. They should have. What it there to loose? If the game is good and the message is clear it benefits the brand as a whole, doesn't it?
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Considering the fact that tourist trophy was an extension of the GT world in terms of tracks, menus and engines. They should have. What it there to loose? If the game is good and the message is clear it benefits the brand as a whole, doesn't it?
Fiat owns Ferrari.
Hmm... I wonder why the the Fiat 500 was not named Ferrari 500. I bet it would have sold tons more. Extreme example, but it gets the point across.
For more info, please google brand dilution.
Forza Horizon bombed. It was a great game I agree, but the Forza name didn't help. I guess they could have called it just Horizon and it would have sold pretty much the same.
I wonder. As these rumours suggest that Evolution wanted the GT name, could there be a potential swapping of resources. PD car models to Evolution and in return Evolution give PD some environments for city courses (or PD's planned C spec)
It would make sense sharing resources
It would make sense sharing resources
Big Takeover
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Gran Turismo has such great breadth to it. I can't imagine what a complimentary game would even be like. A subset game, say like rally? OK, maybe. I just can't see what voids could be filled by another team, and still have it be GT.
Seriously. WTF was this shit? From memory, the Australian ad for it was even worse, because they cut certain bits out so there were no people in it, just the car and the voiceover and the VO was edited a bit. So you just kind of had a car that drove around for about 1/3 of the ad, then the other 2/3 was the camera slowly zooming in on it on the podium while it spoke to you.
NFI what the hell they were thinking.
Forza games period don't sell well in the U.S.. MS keeps making them though since it's their "GT" and the games have gotten better reviews than GT so it's basically a way to counter something that the competition has.
Forza does decent in the U.K. though and I remember reading that Horizon made the top 25 in the U.K. too. They love racing games.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wngm-Erir_0
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?p=1704476
This has to be fake right?
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showthread.php?p=1704476
This has to be fake right?
twinturbo2
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Wait, isn't the lead developer of the PGR games with Evolution now? I don't know what to be hyped for now.
And what are the chances of seeing the Evolution game at the PS4 reveal 11 days from now?
And what are the chances of seeing the Evolution game at the PS4 reveal 11 days from now?
That looks awful. I'd never buy that as an official ad.
huge, considering twit comment from evo guy
SneakyStephan
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Got to put those 2.5 year marketing bachelor throwaway degrees to work !
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It still charts in the UK, week after week. That also makes me wonder whether it's selling steadily in the US as well. I don't expect any huge numbers, but after all is said and done, I think it will do decently.
Kenshin001
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That article talks about a merger but they were shut down. Don't know where this idea most of them went to Evolution comes from. We know some ended up at Lucid making PGR5, some formed Sawfly. A couple of Wipeout's senior programmers went to other companies like Crytek.
CrunchinJelly
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Hopes and dreams it where it comes from, I think.
Kenshin001
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The reason it's in the charts is because it's bundled out the wazoo.
Yeah looks too meh for a teaser..so I think it must be a fake
You don't think marketing makes a difference? Or that how you market matters?
So I got linked here from the PGR Appreciation thread by Lord Shaneus and oh my how did I miss this thread D;
Will not believe until I see it goddamnit.
Let's also not forget a bulk of the models and stuff from PGR games in the past have been outsourced, perhaps Lucid is doing a lot of that? Kinda seems like it would be too much though. I mean look at the work put into the cities in PGR4 alone. Imagining that level of work in something that looks better than GT5 (presumably) is unfathomable.
Kinda makes my purchasing decision difficult as a gamer. Ill only be buying one next gen console, but which will it be? What if the PGR game from Evolution is better than the one I get from MS? How much is in the name? Brb contemplating life.
I'd really get this warm and fuzzy feeling that MS hasn't abandoned PGR just yet, and is still willing to give it love after what they did with the release timing of PGR4, but again, I just don't want dashed hopes. It would just be awesome to see another Xbox launch with another PGR.
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Did OP actually say they were building on the same PGR4 engine? That sounds too good to be true, though I hope it isn't limiting them technically. My second favourite driving model in the series after PGR2.
I am hard and wet, all at the same time.
Will not believe until I see it goddamnit.
I remember this too, but this happened a LONG time ago. I would say 1-2 years ago. Could the small Lucid team have been working on it for that long, possibly in conjunction with Turn10 or other studios? Certainly a possibility.
Let's also not forget a bulk of the models and stuff from PGR games in the past have been outsourced, perhaps Lucid is doing a lot of that? Kinda seems like it would be too much though. I mean look at the work put into the cities in PGR4 alone. Imagining that level of work in something that looks better than GT5 (presumably) is unfathomable.
Probably. There were rumblings of T10 wanting that extra time and not being ready for launch. I can see them being the 2 in the 1, 2 racer punch to keep the 720's momentum going.
Yeah it's kinda crazy to even imagine, though I don't believe the Evolution studios game will take inspiration from PGR.. I don't think that's what the market wants right now TBH, and if you don't do it just like PGR it'll end up being pretty mediocre, even PGR has struggled over the years to get the kudos system just right. The idea of a PGR "clone" sounds odd to me.
Kinda makes my purchasing decision difficult as a gamer. Ill only be buying one next gen console, but which will it be? What if the PGR game from Evolution is better than the one I get from MS? How much is in the name? Brb contemplating life.
I think some of you will be pleased
Indeed
...is it weird that PGR5 is increasingly becoming one of the most heavily rumored next gen games or what?
I'd really get this warm and fuzzy feeling that MS hasn't abandoned PGR just yet, and is still willing to give it love after what they did with the release timing of PGR4, but again, I just don't want dashed hopes. It would just be awesome to see another Xbox launch with another PGR.
MS and Bizarre co-owned Kudos, and both had the ability to use it however they pleased, but not anymore since Bizarre's demise. R.I.P. Bizarre.
Suddenly, next gen doesn't feel like impending doom anymore! Great time to be a racing game fan methinks
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Did OP actually say they were building on the same PGR4 engine? That sounds too good to be true, though I hope it isn't limiting them technically. My second favourite driving model in the series after PGR2.
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If anything, that make the whole idea of a collaborative effort more plausible. I don't think the recordings were done by a Lucid team, but Microsoft has certainly been preparing for the next PGR for that long.
Oh, a new midtown madness would be great.
I hope they are basing it on PGR rather than the likes of motorstorm or BLUR. I didn't like apocalypse nearly as much as the first two MS games, and BLUR was a bit of a mess for me. I don't care about kudos, just give me an arcade-sim racer around cities with amazing visuals. I want to feel the same way I did when I first played PGR3 on 360
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I hope so. Doing zone mode and eliminator on wipeout hd/fury is as good as thrilling as taking a car on the nurbugring in GT.
this is me playing zone mode in wipeout
just out of curiosity what is happening in this gif? Looks fucking creepy,
Are you me?
The_Hitcher89
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Here (in 2009):
My theories:
- Rare has hired some substantial Codemaster staff recently and the head of Rare use to work for Sumo. Could be a co-production between them and Lucid. Check the hires: here, here, here, here, here, here and here.
- If T10 already started in 2009, they might have been searching for a partner to finish the game ala Playground Games. A co-production between T10 and Lucid would not be out of the question.
Oh god, I don't want anyone who worked on any Codemasters racing game from the last 10 years involved with anything to do with PGR. One of the main guys who did Showdown? People who worked on F1 Race Stars and F1 2012 and Dirt 3? That's almost enough to completely negate the ridiculous level of admiration I have for the Lucid guys.
I really hope that's not the case. Maybe MS are just going to put them to work on the next Cruis'n franchise or something.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
It did ok. More than 1 million on leadeboards last time I checked.
I'm really not to sure what is worse. Is it the possibility Rare are involved in the game or that they have some former codemasters devs working there as well (PGR now with piss filter).
I would be alot happier to find out that Rare have no involvement at all
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
Nintendo owns the rights to the Cruis'n franchise, just wanted to point that out.
Irrelevant though. Fact is, a bunch of ex-Codies guys who worked on some of their worst racing games have joined an MS second-party developer. You should be hoping with all your might that their project is something that isn't PGR related (like Kinect Joyride 2 perhaps?), not needlessly pointing out which IPs MS does and doesn't own
twinturbo2
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My hopes are still high...
Don't know about most but Studio Liverpool being pretty much next door to Evolution makes it seem logical that a few of them would at least have ended up there.
Yeah, you figure that Microsoft would want to stay the hell away from mentioning the color red in any sort of teaser/advert.
They won't have much input in the design of the game though, that would fall under Lucid. With most of the hires being technical staff, Rare would do the heavy engine lifting.
thesuperfunk
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I always found it strange they left tracks exclusive to Tourist Trophy, didn't include them in GT 4 or 5 but thought it would be cool to put them in the PSP version ... PD continue to baffle ...
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Ah hell here we go!
Thats more than a damn tease lol.
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