I saw the trailer in a theatre a few days ago and there was a lot of negative mumbling when it was over.
Tagline: Get your ass to Mars.
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JOHN CARTER (OF MARS!) |OT| (dir. Andrew Stanton)
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bengraven
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That's great.
That also could bring in the female crowd, not because of the "princess" part but because of the "John Carter and the Princess" part. It's showing them as equals in the title and even hints at their possible romance.
SteveMeister
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If the movie sells, you can bet that's how the sequels will be named.
JasoNsider
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That last trailer there was the first I've seen of this. That looks laughably bad. At least, the way it's being portrayed is terribly unappealing. Dudebro Warrior Within + God of War in space or something? And a personal pet peeve in showing a scene for long enough that you have essentially spoiled it. Yikes.
Do you think this going to crater harder than Green Lantern?
It's going to be a black hole from whence GL will be ejected!
PhoncipleBone
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I see John Carter becoming the Speed Racer of this year. Many critics will hate it, and it will bomb horribly. I mean epic level of failure here, the likes of which have not been seen in a while.
But the people who do see it will love it, and sing its praises for years after as the cult audience slowly grows.
OrangeGrayBlue
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I agree with this synopsis. Except the cult will have a slightly larger membership with slightly less fanaticism. It will be the Romney to Speed Racer's Santorum.
Salvor.Hardin
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The lead is far too douchy and too terrible of an actor for this movie to create an enthusiastic cult following.
Even if the movie doesn't do well, all the John Carter merchandise Disney is going to sell to kids will ensure a sequel.
Found this bit kind of funny:
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PhoncipleBone
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People liked Emile Hirsch before?
And don't forget, Kitsch has a lot of fans from Friday Night Lights.
Salvor.Hardin
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The Girl Next Door and Into the Wild were fairly well received movies, and Hirsch got a lot of love out of both of them.
So I just found out that Michael Chabon, one of my favorite modern writers, worked on the script. I had absolutely no interest in this movie before because of the awful marketing, but now I might go see it. Everything i learn about this movie from this thread makes it seem like a movie should at least be interesting. I have no idea how it can look this bad.
bengraven
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That's not true. Paul Hogan's Peter Pan from 2003 or 4 has a big cult following despite that it's titular star is a fucking atrocious actor.
It's still a beautiful film and has the best Hook (Jason Isaacs) ever.
Critics panned Speed Racer, though.
The majority of critics who've previewed their thoughts on the film seem to have really enjoyed it. Haven't seen anything lower than average, and those are by far the odd ones out.
Darkmakaimura
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I haven't seen any commercials for this movie, whether on television or on the Internet. About the only thing I've seen and heard of it is here on NeoGAF. Mass Effect 3, a video game, is getting more attention than this movie.
Either more proof that video games are outselling (and outdoing) movies and/or the marketing department has done a shit poor job of promoting this.
Either more proof that video games are outselling (and outdoing) movies and/or the marketing department has done a shit poor job of promoting this.
Escape Goat
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Went to see this a couple of weeks ago. It's very good, the trailers really aren't doing the film justice. Sure, the dialogue is a little overwritten and the comedic aspects of the film fall flat but there's plenty of thrills and spills to keep the interest up. The best part of the film is the cartoonish aspect of the fight sequences, with John jumping around the place like a flea. There's a bit of a Daffy Duck as Errol Flynn feeling to the choreography and staging of fights. Would recommend people check it out, not as dumb as it may appear.
Darkmakaimura
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I laughed.
freenudemacusers
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... Not the best sell there
kame-sennin
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Very surprised to admit that that looked really good. I laughed out loud a couple of times. If the rest of the movie is that good, the movie has a chance. My only other issues are the Hitch casting and the cartoonish alien designs.
Large Professor
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The ten minute scene is pretty horrible.
... Not the best sell there
If you're a fan of Zorro, Robin Hood or stuff like the Sea Hawk it'll be right up your alley.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Giving away the first 10 minutes to your film for people to watch on their laptops. Worst marketing idea ever. I hate the fuckhead who thought that up.
Large Professor
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Especially since it shows only western footage.
it worked for me. but i agree, the marketing seems pretty desperate.
I'm totally on the hype train for this movie. My plan is to be there on Friday night/Saturday afternoon after work.
I feel the marketing is masking the perfect storm of a 3+ star action adventure. It's got too much going for it except buzz. Fortunately I don't see movies on the basis of "buzz" anymore since I'm a high school graduate.
I feel the marketing is masking the perfect storm of a 3+ star action adventure. It's got too much going for it except buzz. Fortunately I don't see movies on the basis of "buzz" anymore since I'm a high school graduate.
No it wasn't unless you thought it was horrible before you saw it.Large Professor said:
It was like a little Indy spot. It's a sign of desperation, but calmed some fears. The music alone is encouraging.
So they weren't really spoiling anything
Large Professor
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What the heck made it "horrible"? Feelings of indifference I get.
Anticitizen One
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I still don't understand why Disney is so ashamed to market it as a sci-fi movie. The Sci-fi genre is bigger than ever right now with Star Trek, Avatar, and even the phantom menace re-release being HUGE hits in the past few years. In gaming, Mass Effect 3 is like one of the biggest games of the year you can't even preorder the $80 CE! People are starving for sci-fi after the 00s neglected the genre so why not feed the hunger? And it is such BS that "girls don't like scifi" I'm sure a good 40-50% of the audience that saw Star Trek and Avatar in 209 were women.
Large Professor
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The disappointment of not seeing anything of mars. I was hoping that somewhere around the 5 minutes mark he would be teleported to mars or something.
Ok maybe "horrible" is a bit of an exaggeration but I was looking forward to some exotic footage and cool fights against extraterrestrials.
That actually makes sense. One should expect to see a glimpse of Mars in a movie largely about it.
Sir Hamish
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Okay, so it was horrible for promotion, not horrible in terms of actual quality
Anticitizen One
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This isn't the first time Disney's shitty marketing has dumbed down a title too:
The Frog Princess was changed to "The Princess & The Frog" for fear of being racially charged
Rapunzel was changed to "tangled" to be more hip and appeal to boys
The Snow Queen is being changed to "Frozen" to try and repeat Tangled's success
The Bear & The Bow was changed to "Brave"
It goes on and on. These people need to be fired.
The Frog Princess was changed to "The Princess & The Frog" for fear of being racially charged
Rapunzel was changed to "tangled" to be more hip and appeal to boys
The Snow Queen is being changed to "Frozen" to try and repeat Tangled's success
The Bear & The Bow was changed to "Brave"
It goes on and on. These people need to be fired.
Marketing wise, it wasn't great because you are left with the feeling that this is going to remain a film about the US vs. Apache.
Production wise, it comes across as an opening of an Indy film.
I'm happy that this movie is finally coming out.
First ten minutes isn't loading for me, but the trailers do look good. There is a fairly long sequence in the book before he arrives on Mars, though. There's the chase and the uncle's (John's) back story, and then finally the descent into the cave (if my order is right). Is that how the movie opens too?
I can see how it'd seem derivative or confusing if one isn't familiar with the books, though I hope people don't skip it because the trailer doesn't distinguish or reveal itself very much. It's a fantastic series.
First ten minutes isn't loading for me, but the trailers do look good. There is a fairly long sequence in the book before he arrives on Mars, though. There's the chase and the uncle's (John's) back story, and then finally the descent into the cave (if my order is right). Is that how the movie opens too?
I can see how it'd seem derivative or confusing if one isn't familiar with the books, though I hope people don't skip it because the trailer doesn't distinguish or reveal itself very much. It's a fantastic series.
Escape Goat
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