xBladeM6x
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Ah, wasn't aware of this. That's kind of shitty, but I'm sure people will be making a mod to support it / there will be an update for it.
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MGR Revengeance PC doesn't work offline (UPDATE: Fix out, go back to ripping spines)
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Ah, wasn't aware of this. That's kind of shitty, but I'm sure people will be making a mod to support it / there will be an update for it.
Stone Ocean
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Why jump through hoops to implement some sort of DRM when they could just flip some Steam switches otherwise?
Durante already has the game running in 4k, but he says he won't continue with the fix as Platinum is likely to patch.
Steve Youngblood
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I don't think it's a problem that affects a ton of people. But even if it's infrequent, it's very annoying. And for some -- even if they've literally never been affected by an internet outage -- just the mere possibility that it might occur may be enough to object to it. Not that it's particularly relevant, but my own experience would demonstrate that loss of internet connectivity is pretty rare. However, something that isn't rare is that I often find myself needing to log onto my work VPN and remote in to my work PC to get something done really quick. Doing so causes me to lose Steam connectivity for whatever reason. Will this make RIsing crash? Don't know, but I'll check tonight.
grosvenor_92
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Hopefully that's a glitch cause I've been losing connection to steam a lot the past few days
angular graphics
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What happened to your avatar :O
GAF is a place that's being visited from all over the world. Internet connections in certain parts of the world are different, maybe more unreliable than yours. Yes, it is a problem in many places. How was that even surprising to you?
I really hope he's right. I'd rather not have a blurry, upscaled screen when playing this for the first time. I'm just concerned because From Software and Access Games never bothered to fix their own ports even though it should have been easy.
True enough. It is just very poor practices.
Dreams-Visions
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Oh wow.
What about the framerate? Is >60fps possible atm and if not with a fix?
I still don't get why they even go to the trouble of implementing real AA (which isn't that easy in DirectX9 with off-screen render targets -- I'm ecstatic about that btw), but then put in such a silly resolution limitation.
xBladeM6x
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Damn, that blows. Must have been pretty jarring, followed by enraging. Lol
Bug or not the fact stands that they launched a product with always online DRM without disclosing it beforehand. The fix should come pretty quickly or they should start accepting returns for full refund.
With this and 1080p only debacle I'm having less positive feelings about this port every passing moment. Let's hope I feel better when I actually get around playing the game. Hopefully by then the always online requirement is long gone.
With this and 1080p only debacle I'm having less positive feelings about this port every passing moment. Let's hope I feel better when I actually get around playing the game. Hopefully by then the always online requirement is long gone.
My bad for not reading the whole thread before posting. I rarely do that, but I did it this time and I screwed it up, which means I'm a fool. My apologies.
I still hope it gets patched, but I see now that it probably wasn't intentional.
Stone Ocean
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Uhhh if they released with a bug they didn't know about how do you expect them to disclose it beforehand?
I mean sure it's bad but let's not start randomly throwing accusations around.
How are they supposed to disclose a bug that they, obviously, didn't know was there?
CTD is considered DRM now? I would just consider that what it is, a CTD.
If it's a bug that only comes up after the game is released and not even Konami was aware of....how exactly would they disclose it beforehand?
Where did I say they should have been able to disclose a bug beforehand? Assuming it is a bug of course. I just mean that in reality as a customer it doesn't make a difference to me. How the hell does something like this even slip by QA?
I really hope they fix this quickly.
SuicidalSteve
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if this was intentional there should have been a warning after you go to desktop surely? This looks like a bug if without warning going straight to desktop and crashing the game
You are correct, people are always going to associate Metal Gear Rising with Always Online DRM, its inevitable.
I'm guessing they were busy testing Steamworks features, but never tested what would happen if those features were suddenly not available.
angular graphics
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Well MSAA is part of their engine as it has been used in Vanquish, meaning it wasn't something they implemented for the PC version. (The console implementation must have worked on PC as well.)
Three people quoted you saying the same thing. You should probably check whether or not you said it before responding.
"bug or not the fact stands that they launched a product with always online DRM without disclosing it beforehand. "
Ah, that makes sense.
Valve doesn't check at all, Developers are in charge of pushing their own updates, managing their own store front, and patching their games.
Valve only responds if something is particularly egregious.
The part where you literally said it
AC4 isn't always online.. ?
Stone Ocean
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How does any bug slip by QA? Shit happens.
And as said above, you said bug or not they let this thing through without disclosing.
plutoknight
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On the PC? No. It does go through uPlay, but you can play it offline, np.
Relaxed Muscle
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This is the kind of thing (bug or not) that can ruin the sales of a game. Do something Konami!
I've said it before, but honestly its a pretty solid port.
Bug aside, the game is a little rough around the edges but a commendable job for a first time on PC.
Well, if they patch it, the good people of the internets will write actual helpful reviews that will get voted up on the Steam system as helpful, right? And the kneejerk reaction reviews will get voted down as unhelpful, right?
That's how it's supposed to work I guess, that helpful stuff floats to the top.
Yes, I'm putting a lot of faith on the internets.
Yeah - I know. I shouldn't have made it a question, but it sort of was supposed to be - because coldfoot implied it was.
Exactly. This is not the same thing as saying that they should have been able to disclose the bug beforehand. What I mean is that it doesn't really matter to me right now whether they did it intentionally or not. As it stands the products just isn't what was promised. It's already early Friday in Japan. Fix might take a few days if one is coming. Of course I get that shit happens and it's part of the game. That's what you get for pre-ordering games on this platform (or any platform these days it seems).
That said let's not act that this is anything that any half-decent QA wouldn't have been able to catch.
Poetic.Injustice
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If Valve start checking games they'll need a QA department like the console manufacturers, and we all know how much developers love those.
valve doesn't really have to check the games at all
they're not the publisher, steam is just the distribution platform
you don't ask gamestop to check games for bugs
Pai Pai Master
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Fuck. Well that's the last time I preorder a Konami game.
I thought Valve does check the games coming to the service to some extent. At least I remember seeing some ramblings about removing this requirement before patch is allowed through making the process faster (and riskier I suppose). Did this already happen or is QA 100% on the developer/publisher?
plutoknight
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Well, it'd be understandable if someone didn't know because I think for a week or so after launch it required it, then they dumped it.
I have confidence this is a bug (MGR), and I still have faith it'll get fixed. The PC Port is pretty solid otherwise, like Grief.exe says.
Also, you can change the rating on your Steam reviews. For example the ones in the OP can go back later and change their reviews to positive.
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