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Teen carries cross to White house
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Oh, I see you read the Director's Cut.
Necromanti
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I thought America had the largest population of Christians in the world. I didn't realize that there was an issue of faithlessness when it oftentimes seems to be to the contrary.
In our country, calling something a godless heathen is a popular insult. So when Obama talks about promoting a healthcare system that is accessible to everyone, all you gotta do is call him a Muslim atheist homosexual and that'll stir up the hive and delay progress for another few months.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
What I don't like in protests, etc. is self injury to make a point. Case in point - farmers not eating to make a point.
Mike Works
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Hahahahaha, they made t-shirts!
Just like Jesus.
Just like Jesus.
krameriffic
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This sounds like something George Carlin would ask about Christianity.
ARE YOU GEORGE CARLIN?
ClassyPenguin
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Not with a Socialist Secret Muslim Baby Killer in the White House!
But this cross belongs to Junior Garcia - I think what we're seeing here is the setting up of a false idol.
(obligatory) .... 'IT'S IN REVELATIONS, PEOPLE!!!!!!'
Do you know what an ichthys symbol is?
If he had been boiled alive I assume people would just wear the fish.
The craziest thing about the story. It doesn't even matter if a car follows with flashing lights when you're dealing with the American highway driver.
I would never walk along a highway even if my car broke down. You wait for a friend or a police officer to give you a ride off of the meat grinder.
Less chewy.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
"Tolerance"
We tolerate the hell out of this guy. We aren't going to stop him. We don't think he's a bad person. He is not some hated "other". I would chill out with him if given the chance.
But like E3 press conferences, the Time Belt, and the movie Sucker Punch, GAF is going to ridicule the fuck out of him because he's hilarious.
All the religious whiners in this thread really give a lot of ammo to the Dawkins school of thought where you think this one area of life is immune to criticism. I always argue against strict Dawkins-like thought because I do want to "respect" religious people in the true meaning of the word "respect", but you really think we shouldn't be critical? Ha ha ha ha.
Necromanti
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That's what I feared, and would also explain his destination... Maybe they can get Obama to denounce Islam with prayer.
"Tolerance"
We tolerate the hell out of this guy. We aren't going to stop him. We don't think he's a bad person. He is not some hated "other". I would chill out with him if given the chance.
But like E3 press conferences, the Time Belt, and the movie Sucker Punch, GAF is going to ridicule the fuck out of him because he's hilarious.
All the religious whiners in this thread really give a lot of ammo to the Dawkins school of thought where you think this one area of life is immune to criticism. I always argue against strict Dawkins-like thought because I do want to "respect" religious people in the true meaning of the word "respect", but you really think we shouldn't be critical? Ha ha ha ha.
You just became my favourite poster.
blame space
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yeah that's poetry
I would disagree with this quite strongly.
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I don't. Believing in God might not be but your religion certainly is.
Most are born into it though and have it hammered into them, choice implies a reasoned decision.
That is a dangerous path to wander down.
If religion is not a choice, and not genetic, then indoctrination and brainwashing are equivalent to be being born with something.
Since there are multiple religions claiming the title as The Right Religion, that school of thought literally says you can be born right or you can be born wrong.
If society teaches you something is normal and natural from birth, then you are essentially born with it.
Why must it be genetic? That's an odd base assumption. You then use it to discount indoctrination and brainwashing, which is the process of psychologically programming someone a certain why so they don't have a choice.
What you believe is the result of your environment, upbringing and life experience. Belief isn't something you control, it's something you feel. It isn't something you rationally think out (though it may result from rational thought if you work that way). "That's why it's called belief." etc. etc.
I don't choose to be an atheist. The I was raised causes me to look at the (lack of) evidence, total it all up, and declare I cannot believe in a god for there is no strong argument for the existence of one. For me it isn't a choice, but the only option for myself.
I could just have easily been brought up differently or had a different set of random life experiences that means I truly believe there is something 'out there'.
The two are very inter-twined. The God of a Catholic is different to that of a Protestant is different to that of an Evangelical is different to that of a Muslim is different to that of a Sikh and so on. You don't simply believe in a god, you believe in who the god is and what they do. Religions form around these beliefs.
Going by your argument, belief in God isn't a choice but belief in Jesus is. That's kind of unlikely. And what of religions that have gods rather than God?
I would suggest there are options other than it being a choice and being born with it. Indoctrination is not a choice and can make it very difficult to 'choose' anything else.
This is a reply to everyone above; this train of thought is incredibly dangerous, because it equalizes something that's not a choice with something that can be taught/ordered. I don't doubt that people FEEL like it should be as important, but that kind of thinking shouldn't be lauded.
It's the same argument that people use to scream racism when their religion is criticized.
If society just sits back and allows that kind of fallacious reasoning, where does the line get drawn on what's allowed to be criticized and judged? Who decides that? It automatically gives one group this immunity simply because it's important to the person since they were kids. That doesn't lead to critically thinking adults, and those adults then change the world as they see fit.
Dangerous thinking.
You know what though? As silly as I honestly think this is, I can't help but give the kid the benefit of the doubt. People are always saying they don't think young people give a damn, and it strikes me that this kid decided to do something-- something which I grant is less effective than a great many others-- to make a difference/send a message. I wish that when I was a teenager, I had cared enough about something to give it this level of dedication.
your avatar is amazing
I don't think anyone is advocating giving immunity, at least not in the people that responded to your post. Just because something can be changed does not make it a choice to get it in the first place.
Angry Grimace
Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Children born to religious parents aren't robbed of all ability to rationally think.
Thunder Monkey
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Everybody knows Jesus was hung.
hanged*
Tesseract
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oh, uh, that too!
Thunder Monkey
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YOU STOLE IT YOU JOKE STEALING WHORE!
Tesseract
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oh gods forgive me monkey i know not what i do!
Thunder Monkey
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