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all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Black-Wind said:
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Pokemon Gold / Silver for DS announced
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Did I miss anything?Ollie Pooch
In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
wow, my fella is gonna wet himself at this news. knew it was coming out but he'll be stoked that it's official
EmCeeGramr said:
They're robot...alien...ancient...pokemon guardian..things. How'd you expect em to sound?
After hearing their battle theme: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7SrUYEKMOg&NR=1 though, actually kinda thought they would sound strange.
Now I want to know how Deoxys sounds anime style :lol
Arceus will probably speak telepathically.
Guybrush Threepwood
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Big MEH at the graphics. Imagine these graphics in a Pokemon game:
viciouskillersquirrel
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Has it occurred to anyone that the different looks needn't actually be separate sprites? All they'd really need to do would be to have a base sprite, a set of quirks for each (say, a pattern of spots, tufts of hair, different eye shapes etc., all overlayed onto the base sprite) and then an algorithm based on IVs that determine:Black-Wind said:
- Whether or not the quirk is visible on the base sprite at all
- Positioning of the quirk with respect to the base sprite
- Size of the quirk
It'd basically be the same thing as they did with Spinda back in RSE. There aren't 65,000 different Spinda sprites on the RSE cartridges. Rather, there is a single Spinda sprite and each Spinda's pattern of spots is procedurally generated from its IVs (and possibly capture data) every single time that particular Spinda's sprite is displayed.
The beauty of it is that since the IV data remains constant for each monster, the individual look will always be the same, even if the monster was traded over from another game. An added bonus is that since IVs are partly inherited, certain quirks can be passed down the family line.
Eteric Rice
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They could probably turn those three's cries into a techno song.
Anyway, I have a question.
So, I'm reading about EVs. And I sort of understand it, but...
Does that mean the Pokemon I've trained up until now are fucked, and at the end I'll have to train completely new ones to get the best out of my Pokemon? :|
Anyway, I have a question.
So, I'm reading about EVs. And I sort of understand it, but...
Does that mean the Pokemon I've trained up until now are fucked, and at the end I'll have to train completely new ones to get the best out of my Pokemon? :|
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Deleted member 21120
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If by "best," you mean "good enough to battle with pros," then yeah. You'll need to breed new Pokemon. I IV breed and EV train, but I don't worry about that stuff when I'm playing through the storyline (and you shouldn't either, unless you just want to for some odd reason).Eteric Rice said:
Here are a few resources for learning about IVs/EVs:
http://www.smogon.com/dp/articles/breeding_guide_part1
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33832
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Deleted member 21120
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They do, but those are really just for fixing small mistakes you've made. Or if you're serious breeder and have lots of them lying around, then I guess you'd be able to use them to completely wipe a Pokemon's EVs.jman2050 said:
Pomeg Berry (-HP)
Kelpsy Berry (-Atk)
Qualot Berry (-Def)
Hondew Berry (-SpA)
Grepa Berry (-SpD)
Tamato Berry (-Spe)
IIRC, the first berry reduces the EVs to 100 (if they were above 100), and once a stat is at 100, each berry reduces it by ten.
Wii Will Rock U
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You are asking for an avatar quote. :lolLucario said:Hey, that movie is great.
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Wow, that one that makes the knocking-on-a-door noise is frightening.EmCeeGramr said:
Eteric Rice
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Cocopjojo said:
Jesus Christ thats confusing as fuck.
viciouskillersquirrel
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Not necessarily. You can undo wasted EVs using berries that lower stats (you thought they were useless, didn't you?) and focus instead on the ones that matter.Eteric Rice said:
Usually EVs go toward recalculating a monster's stats on levelling up. You can get around this at lvl 100 by box dipping - putting the monster in a PC box, logging off, logging back on and taking it out again. The stats will be recalculated to take into account the EVs you gained.
Using this method, you can un-gimp rare-candied up monsters and make them lean mean battling machines just like the ones you painstakingly bred and coddled from birth.
Eteric Rice
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viciouskillersquirrel said:
What if they're already like, level 50 and shit? Doesn't level come into play somewhere?
EmCeeGramr
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Banana Kid
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That would be horrible. I don't want realistic Pokemon, it would destroy the fun of it. It absolutely must be cartoony.Guybrush Threepwood said:Big MEH at the graphics. Imagine these graphics in a Pokemon game:
Eteric Rice
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jman2050 said:
So they could be level 100 and I could still fix them?
Though they'd be eating a lot of berries I guess. @_@
Think of EVs as stat points that you can distribute at will.Eteric Rice said:
The maximum EVs you can give your Pokemon are 510. The maximum per stat is 255. The maximum amount of USEFUL EVs per stat is 252 though so stop at 252.
4 EVs = 1 point increase in a stat for a LV100 Pokemon.
Edit: As for berries, if you have over 100 EVs on a Pokemon for the stat, the berry takes it down to 100 no matter what it's at. Then each berry takes away 10 EVs.
Wii Will Rock U
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Or, you know, maybe the fact that it is LUCARIO with a goofy smile and your name is fucking LUCARIO. :lolLucario said:
Eteric Rice
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Firestorm said:
I see.
Do people normally put them all into two stats, or just spread them about as needed?
Also, can you get these from fighting low level Pokemon? That guide listed a bunch of areas to train them at. But would fighting a bunch of level 10 Magikarps with a level 40 Bidoof (first thing that comes to mind >_<) actually give him EVs?
EmCeeGramr
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Firestorm said:
yeah that's cool and all but i wanna make a red scyther that shoots fire from its eyes
Yes. As long as you get any experience points you'll get the EVs as well. And it all depends really. A few of my Pokemon have the 252/252/6 EV spread (2 stats maxed + randomed into another) while others I thought out more carefully trying to give just enough to survive attacks from certain Pokemon 100% of the time.Eteric Rice said:
Check Jiggy's guide in the other thread. It's a great EV training tool.
ShockingAlberto
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SPEAKING OF POKEMON MUSIC
Diamond and Pearl had one of my favorite tracks of the series
Cynthia's theme
Diamond and Pearl had one of my favorite tracks of the series
Cynthia's theme
Eteric Rice
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Firestorm said:
So would this technically mean you'd be sort of better off not training your Pokemon up to level 100, since the game can do that automatically in battles against other people?
I mean, that way you'd be able to sort of adapt to different strategies over time.
Yeah. Since D/P came out, I haven't trained my Pokemon to lvl. 100 at all. After IV breeding, I just give my pokemon the EVs I want it to have, get its moveset, and then I'm done with it. It's one of the best things about D/P. I don't have to waste time leveling up! <3Eteric Rice said:
Black-Wind
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Wii Will rock U's leak about this new feature thing was posted up on Serebii's forum . . . ALL the people there were all like "WTH? . . . Fake! That would take up WAAAYYY too much time/ space to give every pokemon that many sprites >_> . . . see my Pokemon pon? But yeah, I don't trust the dude and it would be useless if they don't DO anything different".
That carries on for 2 pages before Serebii walks in and says this . . .
He talks abit in the thread, people talk about how space aint a damn problem and how cool it could be . . . and now they seem to be interested in it.
Heres the run down!Ookami-kun said:
Wii Will rock U's leak about this new feature thing was posted up on Serebii's forum . . . ALL the people there were all like "WTH? . . . Fake! That would take up WAAAYYY too much time/ space to give every pokemon that many sprites >_> . . . see my Pokemon pon? But yeah, I don't trust the dude and it would be useless if they don't DO anything different".
That carries on for 2 pages before Serebii walks in and says this . . .
He talks abit in the thread, people talk about how space aint a damn problem and how cool it could be . . . and now they seem to be interested in it.
Some smart people over there have thought of this or things like it.viciouskillersquirrel said:
Eteric Rice
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Teknoman said:
Suppose not.
Sounds good to me, though. I hate training my Pokemon to level 100. I suppose if all the serious players actually had to do that, they'd have quit by now. Lol.
Amibguous Cad
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Wii Will Rock U said:
Doesn't change the fact that it was an awesome movie!
Aw hell I'll do it myself:
Wii Will Rock U
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FAIL.Amibguous Cad said:Doesn't change the fact that it was an awesome movie!
Aw hell I'll do it myself:
Dear Junior Member, quick note: never under any circumstance avatar quote yourself.
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Deleted member 21120
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What happened to his name? :lol
viciouskillersquirrel
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Really? I didn't know that (haven't had to deal with it in the past at all).truendo said:
Very good. I don't like reading through most Serebii threads because of the underwhelming proportion of intelligent discussion that goes on there, despite (or perhaps because of) it being the first place with the news.Black-Wind said:Ookami-kun said:
Heres the run down!
Wii Will rock U's leak about this new feature thing was posted up on Serebii's forum . . . ALL the people there were all like "WTH? . . . Fake! That would take up WAAAYYY too much time/ space to give every pokemon that many sprites >_> . . . see my Pokemon pon? But yeah, I don't trust the dude and it would be useless if they don't DO anything different".
That carries on for 2 pages before Serebii walks in and says this . . .
Serebii said:
He talks abit in the thread, people talk about how space aint a damn problem and how cool it could be . . . and now they seem to be interested in it.
viciouskillersquirrel said:
I remember I made an account there during the DP hype days and participating in a grand total of one thread devoid of idiotic fanboy dribbling. One brief, glorious moment where I discussed the pokemon games, their design and direction intelligently with like-minded people. It was like a single perfect snowflake that you held in your hand - it was there and it was gone again as though it had never existed.
Wii Will Rock U
Banned
I think that they are two different Lucario worshippers...Cocopjojo said:
Guybrush Threepwood
Banned
Banana Kid said:
uh... that is cartoony
either way, high quality sprites >> this game's pseudo-3D graphics
truendo said:
One thing to be aware of regarding the smogon EV spreads is that they assume perfect IVs which is usually not the case with real pokemon. I.e. they may say you need 100 speed EVs to outspeed a jolly garchomp, if you have less than a 31 IV in speed you would need to add EVs to compensate.
viciouskillersquirrel
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Never tried Smogon. Might have to give that place a go some time.Firestorm said:
Yeah, but as you said, if you just figure out your IVs you can usually compensate. There's often a reason for the EV spreads they use given in the description. So if that's important to you, just add more/less.larvi said:
Moderation there is about as tough as GAF, so keep that in mind >.> It's very focused on battling though. Not much else.viciouskillersquirrel said:
are you surprised? gamefreaks is so fucking lazy! just embarassing that it looks EXACTLY the same as D/P.Blu_LED said:
If they speed up the battles considerably, and fix all the interface problems that D/P had... I might bother. Otherwise, there's no point.