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Super Mario Odyssey Official Website Live, Confirms Location (CAUTION SPOILERS)
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that stare into oblivion face
WordAssassin
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Those aren't even just standard NSMB themes, those are classic Mario themes present in like every platformer ever dating back to at least SMB3. But they do have new stuff too, like Bonneton, New Donk City, the food kingdom, plus whatever else they haven't revealed yet.
Right exactly, and it hasn't been officially revealed yet as it is absent from the website and the list in the OP. Sorry if I wasn't clear with what I meant!
I don't see why not.
IDKAboutThat
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By far the most important thing about this announcement is that we now have a good basis for guessing where Mario Tennis Advance Power Tour takes place.
If there's a season pass, wouldn't we have heard about it by now? I remember that was the case for Zelda.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
I do wonder if we'll see some of these Kingdoms expanded in future games---imagine if the next NSMB-style game had these Kingdoms serve as the worlds?
Smiles and Cries
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hopefully no DLC
Belgian Dude
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What? We have nothing pointing towards it not being a major kingdom other than "it looks small". It has moons, side areas of its own, its own set of regional coins, its own sticker, it's mentioned on equal footing with other location names on the sphynx riddle, it was mention as a kingdom in the direct right after Snow/Seaside... even if it's a smaller kingdom, like Cascade (which only has 50 regional coins), I don't think that'd be the reason for it not being on the map, because Cascade is also labeled! (And Cap is too, despite being even smaller on our first pass.)
We still also have two stickers that don't have any kingdom associated with them yet, besides any post game stuff. But the map is already cluttered as is, so I don't think they'll update it either way.
Graphics Horse
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Forgotten is presumably meant to be... forgotten.
It's also right between
Steam Gardens and NDC
Bowser will interrupt their flight and Mario falls/crash lands in Forgotten Isle
The worlds are big enough for there to be overlap, etc. Cascade Kingdom is Grass, Mountains, Forest, and Water. It is the Urban area (New Donk) that is the most Sky themed. Lost Isle is Poison, Beach, and Tropical Forest. The Forest area is also the dilapidated Industrial area, and the dark cave area. Lake and Beach kingdoms both have tons of water. The Star level is probably technically a moon, and the Desert area also has a lot of cold themed areas.
Here's a hell of a read from the DK Vine folks regarding the separation of Mario's world and DK's. http://www.dkvine.com/dku/?page=1
Graphics Horse
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There's some interesting cross over things going too with an NDC cab stuck in Sand Kingdom for some reason, and that T-Rex showing up in other places, not sure what's going on there.
The key difference to take note is that Kingdoms amount to larger regions - or "worlds" as you say - whereas there may be smaller side-areas that are available to explore outside the 10 main "worlds." The Palm Trees, Bat Wings, and Forgotten Isle may be part of these side areas that aren't necessarily part of a "world" but still exist on their own. We may have levels associated with those areas that aren't revealed yet, but they're not one of the larger Kingdoms (even though that bat-wing is huge).
Belgian Dude
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What exactly points to this besides the Forgotten Isle not being labeled on the map? Because the Palm Tree Islands (which are the same as Forgotten Isle) were introduced as a kingdom on the direct, have their own set of regional coins, their own color of moons, their own side areas, their own sticker, and we already know Kingdoms have different sizes in the first place, with Cascade only having 50 regional coins.
It may be smaller, but I haven't seen anything that points to it not being a main level at all.
When was it mentioned on the direct?
Classicblunder
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Zelda has DLC so I fully expect it here. Honestly if the base game feels like I'm getting the full $60 experience, I don't mind if they tack on $20 in DLC for some extra suits and a new world or two.
xochipiltontli
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I'm betting that Delfino is the post game that Edge mentioned in their review. Probably a vacation that Peach and Mario decide to go on where she plays a more significant role that was also alluded to. Maybe Mario ends up controlling her through Cappy or something... lol
I really do wonder if that lava world seen in the Japanese commercial is its own stage or is just a side level on the moon like the ice levels are in Tostarena.
GinoFelino
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My guess is
we'll explore Mario 64 worlds as Peach
Belgian Dude
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https://youtu.be/EKWBv-djiKk?t=2m22s
They show Snow, Seaside, then "More Kingdoms to visit, including Tropical Islands". We later matched these tropical islands to the Palm Tree Landmass in the globe (they're surrounded by purple, poisonous water), discovered the location name "Forgotten Isle" from a Sphynx Riddle on Seaside, and then saw a Location Sticker for it on a clip of the odyssey in the official site. We don't know the Kingdom's name yet, but "Tropical Kingdom" seems like a given.
The same clip that revealed this sticker also showed two stickers that don't match any other kingdom yet.
Professor Lexicovermis
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...if it's a FORGOTTEN Isle, why does it have merch...?
So is this to say that the Mushroom kingdom is really tiny in comparison to the rest of the world? Or is that to say that the world that the Mushroom Kingdom is in is the size of Jupiter considering that there is so much to the kingdom that you'd think it would have a bigger landmass than that?
Belgian Dude
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Toads (I'm assuming Captain Toad) barely discovering the place and already milking it for tourism smh.
Interesting that they'd call them kingdoms but not have them labelled on the map. I hope they release an updated version of this map with all the locales on it.
Smiles and Cries
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I really don't see why this game would need DLC seems pretty huge already.
Zelda had what seems to be a very expensive production I can kinda see why it needed DLC and it seems the story DLC has been quietly delays since it should have been a Holiday 2017 release and they have not hinted a a release date yet.
I would like SMO to be a complete game upfront I really don't like seeing Nintendo trending down the path of DLC
I also hope they would have announced DLC by now and not just announce it later.
TheDinoman
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That's a different team, though.
For example, both New Super Mario Bros. games released back in 2012 had DLC packs/expansions, and yet 3D Land and World didn't. Perhaps it's not something the 3D Mario team is comfortable with doing.
godofcookery
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Super Mario Odyssey |OT| Mario's Inside Story
Smiles and Cries
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speaking of which Captain Toad should have been 3D World DLC they kinda spun that off
LucidMomentum
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Undead Fantasy
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IF ONLY
Please don't do this to me GAF.
IF ONLY
every time i see this gif, it gets me hyped more than i already am. After playing the store demo at a target today, i legit cannot wait for this damn game.
Graphics Horse
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I was thinking something like that with
her own levels rather than just being an alternate character
LightningXCE
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So all of Mario 64 is here, right? Kappa.
Pure speculation, but some people are suspecting 15 kingdoms in the game based on how much space the Odyssey has for stickers.
If true, that means there are five more kingdoms left undiscovered. One is certainly the moon, so that's four completely unknown kingdoms. I'm convinced there is some sort of Japan-inspired kingdom. Miyamoto wore a shirt with a samurai Mario on it last year when promoting Super Mario Run. There is the obvious Ran/Run pun, but it seems like a lot of work to model this JUST for a pun and a shirt Miyamoto wears twice. Trinen also hinted the shirt had a secret, and this was way before we know about the travel theme.
If true, that means there are five more kingdoms left undiscovered. One is certainly the moon, so that's four completely unknown kingdoms. I'm convinced there is some sort of Japan-inspired kingdom. Miyamoto wore a shirt with a samurai Mario on it last year when promoting Super Mario Run. There is the obvious Ran/Run pun, but it seems like a lot of work to model this JUST for a pun and a shirt Miyamoto wears twice. Trinen also hinted the shirt had a secret, and this was way before we know about the travel theme.
casey_contra
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I do think its a level, but this doesnt necessarily confirm that, right? Its really just saying that its a place that exists...
Regardless, super pumped. I really cant wait to play this.
Regardless, super pumped. I really cant wait to play this.
nintendo letting sunshine sink into the ocean, to hopefully be forgotten.
TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared
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I was expecting a Mario 64 level, not a sunshine one, at least going by the Edge review.
My own guess:
I think a reimagining of all the N64 levels may be a bit far-fetched, but here's my own wild speculation:
I imagine the post game may consist of this: A re-imagining of Princess Peach's castle complete with enterable paintings, except they lead to curated challenges within the games' Kingdoms you already explore over the course of the game.
The Edge review already mentions that you get early teases of future kingdoms by entering paintings in entirely separate locations, so the post game could be an extended version of this with all the kingoms of the game visitable through Peach's castle.
Also, with many hints pointing to there being 14/15 kingdoms, equaling Mario 64's level set, it would match up quite nicely.
Oh god yes please. Give me a cherry blossom filled world where I can go wild as Mario. I want this now and you're responsible if I have to feel sad because it's not in there.
Merchandise
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Oh good, another Mario thread, finally, so we can discuss general Mario topics again since the last one was closed.
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Still not completely convinced by the game but the castle being in it could be rad
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Tell me why GameStop is doing a 9 PM release for Wolfenstein but Mario is at 12
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Still not completely convinced by the game but the castle being in it could be rad
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Tell me why GameStop is doing a 9 PM release for Wolfenstein but Mario is at 12
Mario Land from Six Golden Coins.
Mario had his own castle and giant robot and everyone forgot. WHO IS MANAGING THAT CASTLE?