I had a few things pointed out to me I didn't know but overall I figured out most of this on my own. I'm not sure if I should just think I'm smarter then the majority of gamers, or that people are just much slower when it comes to figuring things out for themselves. No offense it just blows my mind how some people have no idea and didn't experiment whatsoever.
I just want to go on record and say, for the most part I learned everything about combat from playing myself! I didn't need a manual, or someone to hold my hand. I played the game and experimented. You know, like back in the NES days.
I just want to go on record and say, for the most part I learned everything about combat from playing myself! I didn't need a manual, or someone to hold my hand. I played the game and experimented. You know, like back in the NES days.
Same here. There were a few functions that I was not initially aware of (fast recovery from being knocked down as well as specifying a target for the AI) but most of it was pretty intuitive. It's not as if you're being asked to input some sort of obscure button combination here. It's all pretty straightforward. The real learning curve comes from figuring out when and where to use these moves (as it should be). The fact that people have come to rely on games EXPLAINING in great detail how everything works is somewhat frustrating. RE6 has re-kindled my love of learning a game like this. It may be linear and cinematic, but there's a lot to figure out and you can actually get better at playing the game (beyond simply aiming faster). It's a very rewarding system.I just want to go on record and say, for the most part I learned everything about combat from playing myself! I didn't need a manual, or someone to hold my hand. I played the game and experimented. You know, like back in the NES days.
Exactly.
Nope, they're not explained in-game, and some reviewers didn't even know you could do the basic act of rolling out of harm's way, an essential mechanic, until like 15 hours into the game. Like I said before, the game should've had a tutorial. I just hope the OP (and now the PDF someone made out of it) will help people learn some of the mechanics at the heart of why the game is so fun. Most people will probably figure out most of these tricks on their own through experimentation, but the OP is there just in case, and to shine a light on some of the more advanced tricks as well.
This is a fantastic way to visualize the OP -- I really like your use of bullet points and use of font/colors to clearly separate everything. I've added your PDF to the OP -- thanks!
There are certainly other aspects of the game that can be polarizing (and that improve in time, imo, like a QTE that at first seems random and frustrating), but many of the supposed issues with pacing and such disappear with simple knowledge of the mechanics, because then you're working with the game rather than feeling like the game is working against you. In other words, the enemy encounters and such become so much fun when you learn the tools at your disposal, around which the enemy abilities and tendencies been designed.
Let's take a look at Brad's review on Giant Bomb. If you read over the entire review you'll find that his complaints can be boiled down into three main things;
That's how I felt about the demo early on, but then it clicked. I'm not saying it'll click for you, but did you try dialing the camera down from 5 to 2, the aiming up from 5 to 7, and the brightness from 20 to 30? Did you try switching to laser sight? And I'd also encourage you to approach each situation slowly at first so you can assess the threat rather than running in and getting blindsided; once you see the enemy positions, then you can slide in for the kill. Finally, know that the camera changes slightly from scene to scene in terms of how close it is to your character; in some places it's closer to create more of a blind spot so you're paranoid about enemies, and in others it's farther back. Check out the Mercs video I added to the end of the OP -- it'll give you a good feel of the game's rhythm once it clicks.
I disagree. Simple as that. It is absolutely NOT horrible and, in fact, is really fantastic. It's simply very different from most games out there today. I didn't need to waste time in the options menu and I didn't have trouble learning the game. I had a grasp on 95% of the control options within an hour of play and simply learned how to adapt those to each scenario.
Oh, does it now?
I agree, I bet you 90% of the people bitching about the game controls haven't played it and probably won't play it but they love the fact they think it sucks.
The controls are not horrible though, They take time to getting use to but they are actually quite good. There are other issues with the game but the controls are not one of them.
The grand tradition of Mercs continues in RE6. There are fewer maps (for now), but greater enemy variety and reams of new combat and mobility options. The situations and tactical possibilities are wilder than ever.
Sectus just posted this great video, which as someone else noted includes a sweet bit where he throws himself backwards to angle a shot at a firefighter zombie's oxygen tank, blowing him up.
Also, check out the OP, which I recently updated with another Mercs video that includes bits like dropping remote bombs while sliding and then rolling back up as a cloud of meaty chunks rain down. 
I've watched that video. Again, my problem isn't with the controls, it's with the execution. Even when you get the hang of the controls, you're still contending with janky animation, terrible hitboxes and terrible collision detection compared to past RE games. And let's not even get into the absolutely terrible camera. RE6 simply isn't a good game and I don't get why a lot of people are trying so hard to defend it. It's going to get a sequel no matter what.This is simply not true. Watch the Mercs vid in the OP. Pulling off that stuff in-game is totally doable and tons of fun. And the enemies are well-tailored to the combat, with mutations even stacking and their swarm tendencies making for some tight fixes where rolling, sliding, counters and quick shots are essential to coming out clean.
No prob, and speaking of social media, I encourage spreading this thread around so more people can get more out of the game. Since Capcom made an awesome game but left out a tutorial, we'll have to teach others. We do what Capcan't!
The only time collision detection is "off" is if you attempt to curb-stomp an enemy when they're already standing halfway back up (which is understandable). Otherwise I've experienced nothing but pixel-perfect hit boxes and collision detection. And this talk of janky animation is unfounded, I feel -- even the most over-the-top melee takedowns segue seamlessly out of and back into regular combat, or into a counter, or into a quick shot, or into a roll or slide. I think most people who watch those videos will see this. And again, I've never had trouble with the camera, but I like using the right stick.
I read this thread earlier and was quite confused when my game (EU) arrived later today and I saw what we got as a manual. It doesn't cover all the details, but overall the basics are there like sliding. marking enemies, quick health reload etc.
This video ends with some awesome examples of Leon's quick shot. The video also celebrates the delightful absurdity of RE6 in general, probably my favorite quality about the game and one of the reasons I'm smiling the whole time I play it.
I love RE6 now but hated the demo the first time I tried it, and more or less thought I'd skip the game. I felt like the character moved too fast and the camera was too close and it was hard to navigate the environment and fight enemies. But then I dialed back the camera, increased the aiming, switched to laser sight, upped the brightness from 20 to 30, and slowed the fuck down until I started learning the new mechanics and all the intricacies therein. At that point everything started to "click" and make sense -- the attack patterns and swarm tendencies of enemies, the slide-friendly level design, the progression of setpieces, the ebb and flow of combat, etc. The camera no longer makes me nauseous since I dialed back the speed, and the FOV (pulled out more in most scenes anyway) maintains tension since an enemy may be in your blind spot -- monsters can wander from the other side of the level (or may be another player in Agent Hunt), and there's no music to give away their presence. Now everything gels wonderfully, and it's spectacular.
I really do love how enemies will wander from a half-mile away and smack me in the back of the head when I'm not looking. It nearly made me shit my pants on a number of occasions. Now I'm always peeking over my shoulder all paranoid-like. Nowhere is safe in RE6, lol.
This video is great. Sectus, could you link to some of your other choice videos?
