In short, many Demon Hunter skills focus a lot on controlling enemies (i.e. stun) and this is probably less and less effective in higher difficulties. They predicted that stun reduction in Inferno could be as high as 90%. It took a group vote to actually decide to not use a DH in their four man group though because balance appears to be extremely close. Kripp also suggested DH is the best speed levelling class. Ultimately the DH was probably removed from their 4man because of the dependancy on knowledge of the game. They felt one of their best strats involving a DH using Rain of Vengeance's AoE stun with other AoE (i.e. Wizards frost nova) while a Barb Earthquakes was too likely to be nerfed in Inferno.
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In short, many Demon Hunter skills focus a lot on controlling enemies (i.e. stun) and this is probably less and less effective in higher difficulties. They predicted that stun reduction in Inferno could be as high as 90%. It took a group vote to actually decide to not use a DH in their four man group though because balance appears to be extremely close. Kripp also suggested DH is the best speed levelling class. Ultimately the DH was probably removed from their 4man because of the dependancy on knowledge of the game. They felt one of their best strats involving a DH using Rain of Vengeance's AoE stun with other AoE (i.e. Wizards frost nova) while a Barb Earthquakes was too likely to be nerfed in Inferno.
Makes sense I guess. I hope they're wrong, because I'm pretty much sold on DH as my main.
He also said it was an extremely close call and they had to vote for which class to leave out. Not everyone voted for the DH. Ultimately all the classes are extremely balanced and extremely close to one another. But as others have said, their initial idea was a stun-lock group and as stuns are less effective in harder difficulties, they decided to not use the demon hunter.
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FieryBalrog
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Even if they're right, it almost certainly won't matter unless you're aiming for world first type play. I doubt that any one class is gimped in Inferno to the point where it's really not viable, in which case they'll have to balance it
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Doesn't Rain of Vengeance have something like a 30 second cooldown, anyway?
Considering how characters are a lot less one-dimensional in D3 than they are in D2, I wouldn't worry too much about the DH's viability in Inferno. If her crowd control is less effective, you'll just have to use a build centered around the inevitability of getting swarmed.
Of course, a 4-man team will try to optimize synergy in other ways, but yeah.
Considering how characters are a lot less one-dimensional in D3 than they are in D2, I wouldn't worry too much about the DH's viability in Inferno. If her crowd control is less effective, you'll just have to use a build centered around the inevitability of getting swarmed.
Of course, a 4-man team will try to optimize synergy in other ways, but yeah.
BentMyWookiee
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Heh, almost every GAF ad is a D3 ad. How torturous
I had a dream last night that I was in bed watching d2 let's plays on my iPad. What was I doing before I fell asleep? Watching D2 let's plays on my iPad.
*scratches arm and shakes
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Region: Asia
Class: Probably Barbarian for starters
Does anyone know if there's gonna be more than one realm in Asia? I guess South Korea will have it's own server right?
Wonder if that one is gonna be accessible for people that don't live in South Korea, probably will have the best ping there since I live in Japan.
helloresolven
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Sign me up for the HC Support Group.
First goal: To see how far a melee Wizard can make it...
Got the Shakes
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Fixed1979
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Damn, I really want to go HC but I'm too scared. I was scared in D2 and nothing has changed.
CarbonatedFalcon
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Actually if anything, Hardcore is now more Hardcore. No portal cheesing and no body recovery at the very least (there may be another reason or two I'm forgetting - kind of quoting from something I read earlier).
JohnnytheFuture
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Same with an MMO: if your friend joins you, he'll get less XP.
Haha I can totally relate...although at least with you it's gaming-related stuff. Recently the same thing has been happening to me except with school related stuff. At first I kind of freaked out/was miserable about the whole thing because dreaming about studying after going through an actual study session is well, depressing and not exactly the best kind of sleep. But then I realized that it's kinda awesome that I actually retain whatever info I study in my dreams, so it's like sleeping + studying at the same time!
Anyways back on topic, D2 let's plays eh? I know what I'll be doing for the next few hours!
CarbonatedFalcon
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Everyone one this page who has posted so far has been added to the Battletag list.
There's a timer before you can disconnect IIRC so you can't quickly log off to save your character.
CarbonatedFalcon
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Yes, I think that's the other one. 10 second disconnect timer.
Although you can pause in single-player games.
That... will kind of suck if you legitimately get disconnected.
Indeed. It's pretty lame when people use programs that auto-disconnect them when they're below 10% HP though so I see it as a necessary evil unless another solution is proposed.
I wonder what happens if you pause and then pull the ethernet cable out of your computer (or else alt-tab and disable your connection). Or does pausing not work when you're actively engaged with enemies, so it wouldn't matter?
All characters will be able to solo Inferno (with the right gear, skill setup etc) If one can't, I guarantee they will be buffed until they can by the time you get there.
Unlike D2, every character seems to have a variety of skills (summons, defensive abilities etc)
I'm guessing it will work like WoW in that your character will remain on the server even after you disconnect for a short time (i.e. enough time to let the enemies kill you). Particularly because all logic seems to be server-side anyway.
CarbonatedFalcon
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Done.
You can play alone and hire a mercenary. Or you can team up with a friend or three but you can't hire mercenaries when playing with other people.
Another weird choice. I mean, I kind of get why it just seems so arbitrary. It kind of rolls back the clock a bit on mercs, not quite as bad as D2 vanilla but still makes it so that you may as well not invest much time, effort, or items into them because you can't rely on them.
StickSoldier
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Will there be any of yall who'd like to team up and just go through all the quests and stuff? I'd like to party with a few and run through the game, but not skip the story and crap.
Put me down to skip everything and power like a crazy man.
I will be checking everything, going everywhere and not skipping anything.
But I guess you are from the States right?
If anyone from Europe would like to play without skipping anything, let me know.
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OMG I still can't believe it's soooo close to launch!!!! <3!!!!!!!
16 Days -> Two Weeks Two Days ~ 384 hours-ish
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StickSoldier
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haha yea I mean ill be doin that for sure,but for my first character ill run through normal doin everything
Pixel Pete
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Im a couple hours into Walking Dead episode 1, but I think I need another new game to tide me over (and finish) in the 11 days before D3 comes out. Any Suggestions?
The time for plot is not when I'm exploring the frontier.
Cows - where are they?
There's cows in there I think... somewhere...
Actually, there is a REALLY big easter egg in the game, but I'm not going to tell you what it is...
Source
Yeah, I was referring to that. I'm guessing it will be one or the other. A homage to their older games or a reference to the "this game isn't dark enough for my liking" crowd.
EDIT: erk, stealth edit. I see.
Got a kick out of these.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/logans-claw
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/shenlongs-crashing-tide
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/logans-claw
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/shenlongs-crashing-tide
Pixel Pete
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My launch day group consists of a guy who is playing monk. I need to convince him that Barbarian in better, so I can play monk. The main 2 reasons he is going Monk over Barb is 1) Monk is kickin rad and 2) he used to always play Barb in D2.
I must have my Monk day one, and I don't really want double up classes in the group....
I must have my Monk day one, and I don't really want double up classes in the group....
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