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Nioh |OT2| You Can Be My Yojimbo Anytime
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To gain access to all the mastery missions in the dojo you will need at least 20 points. In terms of bosses you can kill them a bit faster with the right elemental attacks and the sloth magic debuff. I think the best reason to level both dex and magic is to access the passive skills in the corresponding trees. Being able to carry around more elixirs for example. As for spirit it depends if you want to take advantage of the late game and dlc guardians. They need 25-30 spirit to fully unlock their abilities.
thebigword
Neo Member
I finally got the Platinum on this game yesterday and I've been playing since release. This game has become one of my favorite games of all time and I've been gaming for over 30 years. It's like Onimusha, Dark Souls, and Ninja Gaiden Black all rolled into one game. The presentation reminds me of the PS2 era. I loved everything from the setting, characters, bosses, the different weapons and stances, and map design.
Can't wait to see what they do with the sequel. Now to conquer the rest of the dlc.
Can't wait to see what they do with the sequel. Now to conquer the rest of the dlc.
Has a sequel been confirmed? Also I wish they would release 5hr dlcs where we get to play as Okatsu and/or Hanzo to see their side of the story and their relationship with their spirit guardians. Just got the skins and would love to play a more stealthy version with their skillsets.
This game is just fantastic.
This game is just fantastic.
thebigword
Neo Member
I don't think a sequel's been confirmed, I just assume there will be one, considering the game's success.
XxSlasherMcGirkxX
Member
I think I remember them saying that the game sold beyond there expectations and if a sequal was to be made it wouldn't be about Japanese Samurai and maybe a different location and time period.
I am having a really hard time finding gloves with inherent attack up effect. During early release I had a ton but now that I've moved on to new gear I can't find any and I really don't want to soul match my old gear.
thebigword
Neo Member
a different time period and location is fine by me, keep it fresh! Although I will miss the samurai era
Yeah would love to see the same formula being applied to medieval europe and it's mythologies. Imagine fighting the entire knights of the round table, Arthur or even Jeane o'Arc, Charlamagne and the likes. Lot's of content and possibilities there.
Still want Okatsu/Hanzo dlc/expansion though.
Still want Okatsu/Hanzo dlc/expansion though.
thebigword
Neo Member
Wow, the difficulty has definitely been bumped up a notch in Defiant Honor. The new enemies hit hard, and existing enemies from the base game are harder to beat now.
And, holy shit at
. Scared the hell out of me when they first jumped at me, lol. Wasn't expecting them at all.
And, holy shit at
ninja dogs
That's good to hear. I completed the first dlc and have been putting the second one off by doing Way of the Demon missions because I want to do play dlc 2 and 3 at one go as they both deal with the siege on Osaka, albeit across 6 months.
Just bought dark souls 3, and finally decided to change the input config for Nioh as you can't do that on the soulsborne games. Man, takes awhile getting used to as R1/R2 isn't as comfortable as square/triangle. I played bloodborne by mentally switching around but my muscle memory suffers a bit as a result.
Just bought dark souls 3, and finally decided to change the input config for Nioh as you can't do that on the soulsborne games. Man, takes awhile getting used to as R1/R2 isn't as comfortable as square/triangle. I played bloodborne by mentally switching around but my muscle memory suffers a bit as a result.
Ok so after playing the Alfa and the Beta I finally bough NiOh last sale and started playing it yesterday. I haven't read anything since, but the game is much easier, right?
I remember the trash being much harder, with more mobs etc. I had to ki pulse, change stances, plan every encounter...whereas now I just fly through the map. I didn't even die once on the third area.
Is the general consensus that it's too easy? Or will the game get harder as it progresses? Just killed Tachibana.
Mb the beta rewards were a curse in disguise..
Edit: I have to say that I'm loving the game so far.
I remember the trash being much harder, with more mobs etc. I had to ki pulse, change stances, plan every encounter...whereas now I just fly through the map. I didn't even die once on the third area.
Is the general consensus that it's too easy? Or will the game get harder as it progresses? Just killed Tachibana.
Mb the beta rewards were a curse in disguise..
Edit: I have to say that I'm loving the game so far.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Is there a release date for the 3rd DLC? Getting bored with The Surge...
They made the game a bit easier than the betas but it does get harder.
thebigword
Neo Member
I don't think a release date has been announced yet.
Also, yeah it gets harder the further you get into it. There's also the Twilight missions that are harder, plus Nioh has it's own versions of new game +. Although there are certain elements that can make the game easier, like investing in magic.
I had shit ton of problems with beta, but in full game not so much, mainly due to ki dodge skill, better gear and overall just getting more used to the game. Short thoughts on the game so far: Mobs are bit tedious to fight since they are heavily recycled, areas themselves sometimes good and sometimes too confusing because they are made out of samey elements, without unique points to orient oneself. Most of the bosses are pretty fun though, and no i wasn't looking for some extreme challenge so they are pretty good difficulty wise. Just beat
ogress.
Yeah they should remove sloth imo, though most bosses aren't afflicted long enough to matter if you don't learn their move sets anyway. Sloth really is only effective vs strong mobs. And Tengu, fuck Tengus. That said I don't use it anymore, because I kept forgetting to do so.
I really want to see the next weapon type, if it's coming with the final dlc.
I really want to see the next weapon type, if it's coming with the final dlc.
thebigword
Neo Member
Lol, I can't stand Tengus. I fucking hate em! Them and the wheelmonks. Whenever I see either one of them I get real nervous...
The mission where
they double team you
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Wheelmonks are the worst, especially starting from WotD. Gahhh, you die so fast to them 
thebigword
Neo Member
I found that I can only play one or the other. When The Ringed City DLC for DS3 came out I had to set Nioh aside until I finished it.
thebigword
Neo Member
Wheelmonks are the worst, especially starting from WotD. Gahhh, you die so fast to them
I have a hard time with them as is on Way of the Samurai and the Twilight Missions. I don't know if I could deal with them on higher difficulty levels...lol.
Yeah wheelmonks is one enemy where you definitely can't be greedy because they probably have the highest dps in the game when rolling on your face haha, it's ludicrous. I tried a mission in Way of the Strong where you had to fight a Nue and a tengu at the same time. Spirit gauge was empty with wrong consumables so I rubbed my himorogi branch furiously and noped out of there.
Wheelmonks are some of the easier yokai, if you are fighting them on an open space they are basically free, cause you can just hit them on their amrita eye every time to knock them down. As long as you are careful you should be fine, because they CAN kill you very fast with that move where they kind of just start pushing into you slowly.
They're one of the more trivial enemies if you run a Shuriken/Kunai build. I mean, most enemies are trivial with that build but that weakness persists in WotD and WotW whereas that build doesn't melt everything like it does in WotS.
I find that guns just completely trivialize them, not sure if their whole body is their weakpoint when it comes to gun damage, but they eat a lot of damage per shot.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Yeah well, they are often not in that...
Well they aren't still really that hard on closed space, in narrower paths they are kind of annoying, but the worst out of it is that you can't really dodge around and hit them in their eye, but really they are a lot more dangerous when they are in part of a group, but then again, this really applies to any enemy.
I feel the female ghost yokai is a lot more annoying to fight because getting hit once with the sloth attack just makes the fight a complete shore.
I played it on the Pro with the performance settings and it's buttery smooth. According to Digital Foundry this is the best way to play it. There are times where you notice that the resolution is lower when there is too much on the screen, i.e. snowing and looking at like 20 kodamas at the shrine but for 99% of the time its fine. I am using a 4K monitor if it makes any difference.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
Member
I'm going to have to give in and research strategies for Hino-enma. I ran into this brick wall back on release and put it on the shelf. I picked it back up over the weekend, started over and got back to Hino-enma, same results.
I've been stuck on bosses in other games before, Ninja Gaiden, Dark Souls, etc., but this boss is something else. What pisses me off is that it feels like I've mastered everything I'm supposed to be good at and I basically have every sword skill unlocked along with a bunch of ninjitsu and magic, and none of that seems to matter.
I've been stuck on bosses in other games before, Ninja Gaiden, Dark Souls, etc., but this boss is something else. What pisses me off is that it feels like I've mastered everything I'm supposed to be good at and I basically have every sword skill unlocked along with a bunch of ninjitsu and magic, and none of that seems to matter.
I was at the same place as you months ago and a Gaffer helped me out. Now I can reliably one shot her even at high difficulties.
Tips:
Ground phase:
- Stay at a range where she can't reach you with her melee abilities.
- Dash right or left when you hear her start to cast her paralytic blast.
- Bait her to run towards you.
- If she does her wing twirl that produces yokai realm, go in and punish with a couple of hits when she is done. Takes some practice.
Flight phase:
- Dash right or left again to avoid paralytic blast.
- Block or dodge her kunais attack, which always comes in two waves. You can shoot her or kunai her back for sweet damage here.
- When she does her superman swoop, dodge last minute and punish, or block.
Rinse and repeat, pop your spirit guardian when she is around 10% and reap the rewards. Hotkey acupuncture needles for when you get caught. She is weak to lightning.
- Stay at a range where she can't reach you with her melee abilities.
- Dash right or left when you hear her start to cast her paralytic blast.
- Bait her to run towards you.
- If she does her wing twirl that produces yokai realm, go in and punish with a couple of hits when she is done. Takes some practice.
Flight phase:
- Dash right or left again to avoid paralytic blast.
- Block or dodge her kunais attack, which always comes in two waves. You can shoot her or kunai her back for sweet damage here.
- When she does her superman swoop, dodge last minute and punish, or block.
Rinse and repeat, pop your spirit guardian when she is around 10% and reap the rewards. Hotkey acupuncture needles for when you get caught. She is weak to lightning.
I'll re-post this, again:
The should be more than enough to jumpstart gittin' gut at Hino-Enma. Specific armor or gear recommendations tend to be kind of moot since the playerbase has such a wildly differing preferences.
Wolfgunblood Garopa
Member
Thanks. I hesitate to look up strats or ask for help, but fuck it at this point. I've gotten close, I'm sure with those strats I'll get it.
Have fun!
On another topic, does anyone know what are +divine levels on accessories for? They can't be reforged or soul matched as far as I know.
They don't have a similar utility as the +# values in other divine and ethereal gear for upgrading purposes, but they are still values that add to or complement basic item level where their basic stats are concerned, so at least the basic Defense value of the accessories will benefit from the +# values, much like your armor. Bigger numbers are always better and all that jazz.
Thanks very much!
usp84
Member
Well i had given up on the
when i first played this in February but somehow tonight i returned and managed to beat the last two bosses.
I just wanted to get this monkey off my back you can say.
Great game but I don't think ever want to replay it.
Hopefully Nioh 2 will have better levels and less shitty bosses.
Dragon Boss
I just wanted to get this monkey off my back you can say.
Great game but I don't think ever want to replay it.
Hopefully Nioh 2 will have better levels and less shitty bosses.
Need coop help please for lvl 80+ and beyond
Feel free to add or share your psn
PSN id: DeducibleTiger
I hit the glass ceiling for this game, can't git gud anymore
I can play dark souls, bloodborne, absolver, Mario 3d world, monster hunter decently
But this game
tried summoning but no summons after 15 minutes
Feel free to add or share your psn
PSN id: DeducibleTiger
I hit the glass ceiling for this game, can't git gud anymore
I can play dark souls, bloodborne, absolver, Mario 3d world, monster hunter decently
But this game
tried summoning but no summons after 15 minutes
Which boss are you stuck at? I'll see if I can help.
I haven't even reach the boss, just at second shrine/bonfire
The level is 80+, third region
Please add me in game or send PSN message, am stuck at library now
Tyvm look forward to some coop action soon
Nioh being basicly finished i decided to write a small review of the game.
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First of all combat. I think it was initially bit cumbersome but once you unlock ki-dodge it becomes much more enjoyable, because Ki pulse is pretty important in terms of tempo of the combat. I couldn't really use r1 ki pulse because my fingers wouldn't really rest on naturally especially on triangle button when pressing r1, maybe my fingers are too short or something. Regardless r1 ki pulse required too much of gymnastics for me to enjoy it. Same with the stances, went through the entire game almost exclusively on mid stance since i didn't really see the point of other stances. Sure there is probably some statistical reason to use other stances depending on the enemy, but why bother if it is like 10-20% more efficient way to take down enemy.
Regardless i enjoyed core combat, it is at the end of the day much like soulsborne series even though regular mobs are bit spongier than in sb series but it is not a huge issue by any means. Enemy variety was lacking but it didn't really bother me. Bosses were fairly easy or medium, but i wasn't looking for some extreme challenge so most of it was fine.
Combat also has ninjutsu and magic, but like in dark souls i don't usually find these all that fun mechanics and that was the case here too. I feel like there was also way too many stats and skills but you can ignore those for the most part.
Story i couldn't really follow even though i tried. But it doesn't really bother me whatsoever since games with stories i have enjoyed are counted in one hand.
Loot was pretty pointless, there was too much of it, hardly any of it viable and best gear on my playthrough at least was obtainable via revenants and it wasn't worth it to grind it in earlier levels rather it was better to progress to higher missions.
Mission levels weren't really interesting to traverse and explore, sometimes they were made out of samey elements without memorable landmarks so they were sometimes even confusing.
All in all Nioh is a good game. I put over 30 hours to it and i am kind of picky gamer so that speaks for itself. Is it repetitive? Yes, but unlike most i don't consider being repetitive a bad thing unless it is also not engaging and doesn't have enough depth to improve your skills, ultimately for me gaming is usually about mastering said repetition while having fun.
I haven't actually defeated Yamata-No-Orochi yet, but i feel like it is still enough to write a small review
First of all combat. I think it was initially bit cumbersome but once you unlock ki-dodge it becomes much more enjoyable, because Ki pulse is pretty important in terms of tempo of the combat. I couldn't really use r1 ki pulse because my fingers wouldn't really rest on naturally especially on triangle button when pressing r1, maybe my fingers are too short or something. Regardless r1 ki pulse required too much of gymnastics for me to enjoy it. Same with the stances, went through the entire game almost exclusively on mid stance since i didn't really see the point of other stances. Sure there is probably some statistical reason to use other stances depending on the enemy, but why bother if it is like 10-20% more efficient way to take down enemy.
Regardless i enjoyed core combat, it is at the end of the day much like soulsborne series even though regular mobs are bit spongier than in sb series but it is not a huge issue by any means. Enemy variety was lacking but it didn't really bother me. Bosses were fairly easy or medium, but i wasn't looking for some extreme challenge so most of it was fine.
Combat also has ninjutsu and magic, but like in dark souls i don't usually find these all that fun mechanics and that was the case here too. I feel like there was also way too many stats and skills but you can ignore those for the most part.
Story i couldn't really follow even though i tried. But it doesn't really bother me whatsoever since games with stories i have enjoyed are counted in one hand.
Loot was pretty pointless, there was too much of it, hardly any of it viable and best gear on my playthrough at least was obtainable via revenants and it wasn't worth it to grind it in earlier levels rather it was better to progress to higher missions.
Mission levels weren't really interesting to traverse and explore, sometimes they were made out of samey elements without memorable landmarks so they were sometimes even confusing.
All in all Nioh is a good game. I put over 30 hours to it and i am kind of picky gamer so that speaks for itself. Is it repetitive? Yes, but unlike most i don't consider being repetitive a bad thing unless it is also not engaging and doesn't have enough depth to improve your skills, ultimately for me gaming is usually about mastering said repetition while having fun.
Maybe you wouldn't find it as repetitive if you didn't ignore the majority of mechanics and skills in the game
The DLCs introduce greatly elevated item and +# value levels, increased level caps, a new quality tier at the 4th difficulty and new specials, some of which are limited to the new Ethereal tier of gear. So yes, given the current state of the game, prepping for what one would consider to become Niohs endgame does very much require the DLCs
So I've done 1.5 playthroughs of this game without realising that the perfect ki pulse skills were translated incorrectly. If you get a perfect pulse in mid stance, you can block the next incoming attack for free (and dodge in low stance for free but that's pretty pointless). That's incredibly useful and also infuriating to know that the description is still busted after dozens of patches.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Any news about the 3rd DLC yet?