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Marvel explains their games strategy (2017 edition): Talks exclusives, partners, more
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Maybe ssm will convert the god of war engine into a thor game after they are done.
That would be pure bliss~~~
Yeah, one of the quotes from Marvel about this previously was that they wanted a game to be produced in the way that first party Sony games are produced. When Marvel approached them Sony went to Insomniac as they obviously have a very good history with them.
Although it is developed by Insomniac it is being treated very much as a first party game by Sony, as Marvel required, which means Insomniac will get the same support and funding that their first party studios get.
Hopefully, it will work out being a really good deal for all three parties and also the people who play the game. It certainly looks pretty damn good to me.
I imagine this is more of a question of "Would they want to do this?"
Like we have a LEGO Marvel game coming out with hundreds of characters, but I don't know if they want to add Insomniac Spider-Man on top of Spider-Man, Spider-Gwen, Miles Morales, Spider-Man 2099, and Noir Spider-Man, all of whom are already in the game, and are all more distinct than Spider-Man with a white logo.
yeah, and i suspect the square Avengers game does not feature hulk/iron man/cap as the focus
itll be the second wave - black panther, captain marvel, etc
they said they want the MGU to be diverse
wow nice
Marvel i love this new game initiative
MugiwaraCole
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And this is weird because ?
Sony's exclusives are the benchmark for everyone else. This goes with what I was saying they meant when they said they wanted a hit. They're thinking just as much critically as they are commercially, maybe more so.
You go to Sony for that right now.
Grassclipper
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Gimme that Ant-Man game Marvel, please!
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
I guess I have to hope for the same AAA experience with Avengers, whatever that game will be.
Where did I disagree with you? I never mentioned it was weird (in fact I think it's a great decision and will benefit the game greatly) I'm just correcting the mention that people think Marvel and Sony set out to make a Spiderman game and auctioned it off to the best partner, which isn't what happened. Marvel had partners in mind and a type of game they wanted to make.
I think the other great thing here and probably a reason they wanted to work with Sony: going first party removes a lot of the license stigma that generally saddles most superhero games like this. It says that they're really fucking serious about making this an incredible game.
Think there was an ex SP dev on Gaf who said SP likes creating their own games from the ground up, and they wouldn't take another's IP to work on.
With the Fox ban coming to an end, there's hope on that front. Hopefully MvCI & Lego Marvel 2 are the last major Marvel games impacted by that bullshit (& Spider-Man, but I doubt that the ban would do much to that besides limit cameos & remove the Baxter Building from NYC).So still no X-men games?
Senior Producer at Marvel is a former Naughty Dog as well. So he won't be easy to please.
Nah, Captain America game.
They've said before they liked Sony's first party output and wanted Sony to treat Spider-Man like a first party game. I'm guessing Sony then chose Insomniac as the devs.
This was their first move into this initiative so I'm sure they wanted to go with a reliable publisher.
It's actually the other way around. Marvel came to Sony to get a game made which they would treat as a first party title. Sony then decided on Insomniac since they've worked together before and insomniac had an open world next gen engine already built.
The interview is here:
https://youtu.be/wdWt2HFvWRk
Palette Swap
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This all sounds pragmatic and ambitious.
Now, they just need to add a Sharon Rogers character to every game.
Now, they just need to add a Sharon Rogers character to every game.
MugiwaraCole
Member
Nah, Captain America game.
Thought MGS V would've been a dope Cap game tbh
ShadowSwordmaster
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It will be interesting to see what they choose for the games.
We will see but there is a major differences between this game and Arkham Aslyum more than characters and what type of game it is. To me it's another Spider Man game that been done before. With Arkham, it started it's own path with the ideas and mechanics in the game.
Rei no Otaku
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Then my dream game can happen! Raven making a sequel to their Wolverine game.
Let me ask, are the guys behind Hulk Ultimate Destruction still at Radical Entertainment or have they moved on? If so get those dudes together, give them a fucking budget and gimme Hulk Total Destruction or Hulk Galactic Destruction or just gimme some open world Hulk smashing.
Legend of Aims
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Platinum games + Iron Fist
From software + Dr Strange (think otogi)
Awww man.
From software + Dr Strange (think otogi)
Awww man.
Oyashrio-Sama
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Thanos Quest by Square Enix
Character designs by Akira Toriyama
Character designs by Akira Toriyama
CamHostage
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That said, Deadpool was pretty well unknown to the masses before the movie, and Activision got those rights, so a lesser but rising character may not be the wrong bet. (Although since Deadpool was a one-off studio-closer for Activision despite being a good time might be evidence that
I like Marvel's approach, but if we're comparing the two, the math is in EA's favor so far...
There's already one game Star Wars out from the EA/LucasFilm deal, and another one due this year and at least two-three more that we know of in active development, plus there was still wiggle room to let WB do LEGO SW TFA.
Marvel Interactive has yet to ship a console game, has one that's a year away, and the only other one (Square/CD's Avengers) is as far as we know just a logo at this point.
(*EDIT - I'm wrong, I wasn't aware that Telltale's GotG was considered to be part of this deal. So they're tied up as far as shipped product.)
In any case LucasArts "hoarded" the Star Wars rights for the most part when it was its own publisher, so I'm not sure the difference is so clear between EA or LucasArts being the common brand? Yes, LucasArts pumped out a ton more Star Wars games back in the day, but back in the day everybody pumped out tons of games; a modern LucasArts might or might not publish more Star Wars games than EA and mobile/PC partners have.
Heh, there was a LOT of shit in there, but Activision had its studios make some really great Marvel games as well. We'd be very lucky comic book fans if Marvel Interactive in the next 13 years produced a roster as diverse and strong as Spider-Man 1/2/Ultimate, Wolverine, X-Men: Mutant Academy (eh?), Deadpool, Ultimate Alliance... okay, so not 13 years worth of straight loveliness, but when Activision gave a studio time and budget to hit, they hit.
Radical was shut down after Prototype 2 flopped.
Grumplestiltskin
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This all reads like vapid PR after seeing his how terribly they've allowed Capcom to screw up the quality of what should be one of their flagship efforts (MvC:I). Frankly I'm still trying to figure out how the hell Capcom could screw up such a sure thing so horribly but I guess I shouldn't be too surprised after SFV. It's just you'd figure Marvel wouldn't be crazy about having their characters and name attached to such a horrid shoddy looking product.
CamHostage
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It does seem weird that we've seen so few of these deals. The last Activision Marvel games were Deadpool/ASM2 in 2013/2014, and even then it seemed clear that Marvel was looking for a new partner for its brands (we just didn't know that what they were actually looking for was "partners".) There was no Avengers game but for mobile and the LEGO titles (one in development fell apart), the SEGA movie games petered out in 2011, and the gaming front has been relatively superhero-light since Marvel sold in 2009 despite its brand skyrocketing over that time. Even after Sony shocked everybody with this sweetheart partnership, we haven't seen every studio go running to be friends with Marvel Interactive (and if they have, we've not seen anybody but Square Enix get a handshake out of it so far. I expected E3 to have at least one Marvel announcement from some major publisher, but no new boo since the Square deal.
I wonder if it's pure quality they're being choosy about, or if it's also gameplay concepts? Like are they looking for strategy companies and RPG companies, or can we expect just a lot of AAA hero beat-em-ups with variations on their power sets?
Nope, it has nothing to do with MvC:I
They said basically the same thing about a year ago – http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1235407
^ that was posted on Jun 17, 2016
Grumplestiltskin
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That's my point. They say all this and yet are allowing Capcom to release what in almost every regard appears to be a very very shoddy product using their IP so clearly this is all just talk.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Reminder that squeenix put Deus Ex on ice and has devs working on a combination of Tomb Raider and Marvel games in it's stead.
Any updates on that, Niro?
Any updates on that, Niro?
Ploid 3.0
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They don't want it based on Gazillion's experience with Marvel Heroes. Gazillion has the right to do what they want with Fantastic Four on the PC version, and they got scolded for having a Fantastic Four event in the game when the last movie released. Blizzard is better off making a Star Craft MMO, or heck a Overwatch MMO. Complete freedom, no running every new skin, event, mission, cutscene, character/abilities, etc. through marvel first.
This don't count either, because he's totally not Daredevil.
Not a fan of those type of games. Did appreciate him being in MUA 1 &2 though but its been a while.
are mmos in vogue anymore? i do think we have a marvel moba coming up as marvel heroes dies
Nah man a Winter Soldier game in the same style as MGS V would be awesome, hell Bucky would have an extremely similar arsenal metal arm included:
Callibretto
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MvC3 is liked by many people and people have been asking for a new one for a long time. Makes sense that it'll be one of the first game Marvel greenlit since they decide to focus in games like this.
How MvC:I end up is all on Capcom for not commiting to the game like Sony. You can see that Sony spare no expense for SpiderMan and the opposite is true with Capcom that they really had no money to support the game because MvCI just felt really cheap.
I'm sure if MvCI end up bad. Marvel will no longer want to work for Capcom in the future.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
That rumor that Bethesda/Zenimax was developing a Marvel MOBA ever came out to be truth?
Primethius
Banned
One game alone doesn't make it vapid PR.
Grumplestiltskin
Member
If what they said about being committed to license only to projects with high bar of quality so true then they would not be allowing Capcom to besmirch their license and brand with such a poor quality product yet when asked about the game they seem to be high on t as if nothing is wrong with Capcom's execution. It makes their words seem shallow and meaningless.
When the PR is centered on insisting on a high bar of quality for all people licensing their IP and one of the flagship games licensing that up looks like a flaming pile of garbage clearly they aren't taking that mandate as seriously as they imply. If you're going to say that you are prioritizing quality above all else for any licensing deals you pursue then you damn well better make sure that the flagship game of this new initiative isn't some sort of hideous monstrosoty and genuinely disappointing let down for long time fans of the IP yet here we are.
Nightengale
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Sony is not going to fund every single AAA SP Marvel game even if the opportunity is presented to them.
Publishers have limited resources, and they also have other projects they want to fund.
eeeeh, I wouldnt put much faith on this happening, Raven is a CoD assist machine nowadays
Glass Rebel
Member
Well, I definitely hope it's more like Spidey and less like MvC:I.
Can't wait to see the Avengers project and fingers crossed for something by Platinum. They made one of my fave licensed games in Devastation.
Can't wait to see the Avengers project and fingers crossed for something by Platinum. They made one of my fave licensed games in Devastation.
Rayven_king
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I'm gonna need a Black Panther game asap
NipplesAndToes23
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I'm very glad to hear this. Sounds like they're going to finally make more games for their characters. I want a mission based X-Men game, Ms. Marvel, Captain America, and Black Panther games.
GifGafIsTheBestGaf
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great lengthy read, would love some Punisher MAX kind of game and Annihilators
this would be awesome too
this would be awesome too
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