You need to take a long hard look in the mirror and maybe change some life priorities.
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Overwatch trolls will face tougher penalties
- Thread starter LelouchZero
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You need to take a long hard look in the mirror and maybe change some life priorities.
PC is pretty much all awful people on every side. PC online gaming culture is the worst.
Not so sure, because the trash talking often starts when someone fucks up themself. Somebody overextends and dies "fucking noobs what are you doing!!"
Well that's bit of an exaggeration don't you think.
Michael Jordan was one of the best players in the league at the time and his team mates knew that, damn right they would listen to him. Overwatch is completely different some random asshole I never met before in the same rank I am talking shit isn't going to do anything but piss me off.
Captainbojanglesiii
Banned
Generally on console, trash talkers are some of the worst DPS I play with. Makes it more frustrating to deal with them
Kurt Angle
Member
guys probably a young teen and thinks those stats are actually meaningful in any way
let him and his 50% win rate on pubs be.
Namegoes_Here
Member
Well telling players to step up or even that they suck is one thing. Having to put up with kids getting away with randomly whisper yelling n***** into the mic the whole match is a whole other issue. I understand taunting and trash talk are a part of any game or sport, but there is a line when it becomes harassment. No one, no matter their skin thickness, should have to put up with that.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
I'm not talking about harrassing women or telling people I fucked their mothers or they should have been aborted.
Did nobody here quoting me calling me an asshole play sports growing up? Online games can be competitive. No better way to throw people off than to talk some shit. I loved fucking with people playing sports growing up. Getting in someones head is one of the most powerful tools on competition there is.
I stand by my statement that people are being too soft.
Maybe? I've never had a pleasant experience on PC with strangers. Good and bad players alike, there are always really awful behaviors on either side that I can do without, especially when the barrier of entry comes with a large price tag over the same period of time.
It's anecdotal, but I have always felt like PC communities are just significantly more toxic.
To be fair telling someone to switch who isn't pulling their weight at a position like Mercy isn't really trash talking.
Lol, it's a video game.
...except you don't really chat with the opposing team, so you're just getting in your teammates head.
What's the point there?
RadialBlur
Member
We know they've been working on statistics, tracking, replays, etc for a while now. It's possible that internally, those systems will help the reporting system in that they can review game data and observe behavior such as this. I suspect this wasn't an option for them before and it's why maybe their reporting system will have some teeth now. At least, this is what I hope for.
Royce McCutcheon
Junior Member
Nah, I agree, none of that racist/sexist shit. But some healthy ass trash talk? Calling out medals? I love that shit, even better when you win
Maintenance
Member
Laughed out loud at some random ass guy thinking he's suddenly Michael Jordan just because he's an asshole with his teammates.
Watching someone rationalize abusive/harassing trash-talking (in this context) is like watching a child explain why bad behavior is fun for them, so they should get to keep doing it. Unsportmanlike conduct is a broadly implemented rule for a reason, and the reality that the bar is low for videogames currently isn't its own justification for why that shouldn't change. Especially since this is so often about teammates being abusive to their own people.
Do you think that's what this topic is about?
Maybe you did do that, but it wasn't accepted. And really everyone should realize that playing ranked doesn't make you a professional player. Take the ego down a notch, you aren't gaining anything with those wins. Sure winning feels good, but it's quite insignificant in casual setting.
Sure, I really don't want to defend PC community too much in this. But one big factor here is probably easier communication. You aren't typing slurs mid match with your controller on consoles.
Yup people really do take casual gaming way too seriously. No grip on reality. You won't be a celebrated and adored figure for reaching diamond or better.Laughed out loud at some random ass guy thinking he's suddenly Michael Jordan just because he's an asshole with his teammates.
NotMuhSuperman
Banned
They aren't soft. They're using good strategy. They know people can get into their head so the mute them and negate their strategy.
I did. Never liked it back then either. And i did it that to others too - it was the kind of behaviour we thought it was "normal" for sports but it didnt had to. Growing up in a toxic environment doesn't excuse it being toxic.
Games are different from sports though. Back when i played football, everyone there knew what we were getting. I played with people the same age and mindset than me. With online gaming, that goes completely out of the window. I can play overwatch with a 70yo war veteran and a 15yo crippled girl who attempted suicide for being bullied in her school, all in the same team. Totally different people with different "tolerances". It's a completely different thing.
Blam
Member
.Laughed out loud at some random ass guy thinking he's suddenly Michael Jordan just because he's an asshole with his teammates.
If you trash talk your own team mates it just doesn't make any sense, Gaurantee you 90% of the time you are making it worse. The other day on competitive some guy told me I sucked at junk rat and to switch in a really rude way so I said fuck it and played turdbjurn the entire match.
Don't think these internet tough guys give a shit, it's an ego boost to them. Kinda sad really.
The only way for gaming's toxic culture to be dealt with is to have constant moderating presence within the game itself. Someone says or does something an active mod can either silence them, take away certain rights such as whispering someone etc. Do enough actions and you may be unable to talk for a week for example. Or longer bans may be enforced.
In games where talking is done unless if it's through the game again same principle, have people listening in or certain words screened for. Is it so hard to ID when someone says certain words that the typical person might swear with? You would think there is some basic program out there that can flag such things and punish people accordingly.
Until such things are done we'll always be having people act like dicks.
In games where talking is done unless if it's through the game again same principle, have people listening in or certain words screened for. Is it so hard to ID when someone says certain words that the typical person might swear with? You would think there is some basic program out there that can flag such things and punish people accordingly.
Until such things are done we'll always be having people act like dicks.
Mass Effect
Member
Hope so, because that's the biggest issue on the PS4 version of Overwatch, especially in competitive.
Like I said, never encountered trash talking. Seems to be mostly a PC thing.
Trash talking isn't for teammates. Teammates work together. Solve the problem. Make a plan. If you're being a general jerk to teammates then you're the problem. If You're playing a sport with someone and their only feedback to you is "you missed the ball ass hat" then your team isn't going to the Super Bowl. Your team didn't elect you coach or captain either.
Shake Appeal
Member
Lol, honestly.
Unless you play with friends you will be talking shit forever, you will get a shit team of randoms more often than not.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
Huh? I realise this is an Overwatch topic but Im talking about games across the board. A quick tea bag or talking shit between rounds goes a long way. They either crumble and play worse, or Trash talking backfires and they get fired up and play better. I prefer the second so games are more competitive
Never said I was a Pro. Not even close. But games are competitive. I try to win in most anything I do in life.
"You aren't gaining anything with those wins"
This is some bullshit logic right here. Why play anything at all seeing as you get nothing?
NotMuhSuperman
Banned
Shake Appeal
Member
I ... don't care that much. I love to win. And I hate losing more than I love winning. But I still don't feel the need to talk shit.
I do sometimes get mad at random teammates, of course, but then I remember it's a videogame, and that there are always many, many ways I myself can get better, and that kindness is a virtue, so I just turn on music and focus of embarrassing myself in front of strangers.
There are topics where I think it's way off-base to judge a person making a comment. I overstep that line sometimes myself, mentally if not in writing, but I try not to. But this topic is different. A person defending the broad "right" to be abusive to other players in online gaming, not the least of which teammates, is a kind of person I'd reject from my personal life and social circles. That person doesn't deserve people around them to be the target of their hostility.
I hope they learn to socialize without a victim, or I hope the structure of the hobby keeps them from having their selfish, malignant "fun."
I hope they learn to socialize without a victim, or I hope the structure of the hobby keeps them from having their selfish, malignant "fun."
It's fun? But it's not fun to play against or with assholes. That's simple, no? And I did say that winning feels good. Other poster mentioned the "ggez". After you already won, do you continue the trash talk or is it really just a tactic to gain the win? And is your personal fun really so important that you are willing to ruin it from others with verbal abuse? Can't you just PLAY better than the opponent? Or is that too much of an effort?
You sound like a nice guy, do you also do that at work? And do they also step up when you do? Or are all of them thin skinned people who don't appreciate the real you and can't learn how earplugs work.
After all - it's your abuse that made the team win, you just said so.LOL 😁
If a Mercy is being "trash" then either I'll switch to another healer for backup if needed, or I'll move forward with my life because that game will be over in under 8 minutes, and the player skill of one of my random teammates truly doesn't bother me as much as it does others.
the beatings will continue until morale improves
IrgendwasmitRot
Member
Well, at first I want to see a report function on console.
NotMuhSuperman
Banned
The act of playing is the reward. Not the winning. You need to remember that.
basic_text
Member
Holy shit, the whole point of 'trash talk' in the Army is to make people subservient until they break down and blindly follow orders from above.
TOTALLY not the same thing.
I'm sick of presumptuous dicks in Rocket League immediately shouting 'NOOB' when you fuck up, sometimes people just have bad days. No need to immediately pin the loss on one person. The ironic thing is that most of the people complaining are selfish cunts that never defend and only hang around the goal area.
ClosingADoor
Member
I had to laugh at this. So you think your trash talking is making the team better, yet you still lose half the time.
Jawohl herr commandant! LOL. Yeah felt the same way when I read shit like that. People really thinking that their abuse will make people do better.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
If I play a close match I might send a gg or whatever. I play to win. Clearly I'm in the minority with how I do it. I shit talk without being a total cunt or abusing people.
To each their own.
