Isn't the Wii 99 dollars now or something though? Even with the PS3 being completely different hardware-wise I doubt that the slot-loading drives are the expensive parts here.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
New PS3 Model pics leaked
- Thread starter Pooya
- Start date
Isn't the Wii 99 dollars now or something though? Even with the PS3 being completely different hardware-wise I doubt that the slot-loading drives are the expensive parts here.
At such low retail prices what "the expensive parts" are doesn't matter much anymore. You need to get everything as cheap as possible. (The Wii isn't a good comparison, its internal components are dirt cheap already)
True, my main question is just that I'm wondering how MUCH more expensive it is to use a slot-loading drive as opposed to a piece of plastic that slides back.
Fudgepuppy
Banned
I like it, always liked designs that stand out, even if the look like crap.
Not so bad looking now, huh?
Is this one of those Neogaf > Internet > Neogaf moments, lol.
Not so bad looking now, huh?
i am looking at my fat right now and this looks way nicer in the rack.
TheBanditKing
Member
Price. A drive like this would cost less then the current slot loading one. How much less? I have no clue, but to huge corporations even a $1.50 less per unit is seen as a "win" so the amount they are saving would likely sound stupid to us no matter what. Remember the slim revision removed a couple tiny LED's including the miniscule HDD one....
All this aside I want to see real size comparisons between this and the current slim. If this one has an external PSU, and is much smaller width wise, count me in. Also would depend on how quiet the disc drive is, and its design (I never liked the PS2 slims little arm that held the disc in place). The current Slims (with the all matte finish, not the first releases) have really loud drives.
*edit*
If this is accurate then I am definitely in.
shinra-bansho
Member
Based on MYE's comparison pic it's roughly the same dimensions as the original PS2, slightly deeper but not as tall. And obviously curvier.
Will this gen consoles ever be as small as the PS2 Slim, I wonder.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
If Sony had opted for an external PSU I think it could have about 1.5x as large as a PS2 slim which is a bit larger than the OG Wii.
It would be a logical plan.
Meaning we have yet to see if Sony will actually do that.
H_Prestige
Banned
No it wouldn't. I have a 160gb ps3 and I'm probably using less than 16gb of it. Point is, not every game has some gigantic install and not everyone needs all that space. If Sony prices this model competitively, then it's a good option to have. And flash storage is faster than HDD and more reliable.
Plus it will still have a HDD slot so it's not like you'd be shit out of luck if you end up needing more space.
That would be the smart thing to do. But they could be dumb and price the 16gb at $199 and keep the other models the same price.
Squall5042
Member
If this was a fully backwards compatible machine I would consider it. Still have my original PS3.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
That'll be too smart of Sony to do. So of course that won't happen. They'll release the PS3 super slim February 2013.
In combination with more family friendly software like Wonderbook, LBP Karting and Sony Smash Brothers that´d be a smart move.
well, i would say that 99.999999% point towards it not being backwards compatible.
They are taking the costs out, not adding them.
p.s. so nobody knows Slim's official PSU wattage? This says 190W and Slims was 250W, I think, and 20% less means significant differences in CPU/GPU/BD/Cooling, etc, etc. So less heat, less noise, longer life and cheaper.
boyshine
Member
Not so bad looking now, huh?
I hope thats something you cooked up in photoshop, because the shine-arc is embarrassing if official. That cant carry over to the ruffle-lids. I also dread the consequences from kids or other stupid people forgetting to close the lid after taking a disc out.
Definitely looks better. I'm happy to see that it looks like it has a matte finish-the original pics looked like that crappy shiny plastic that was used on the first PS3 and the current model of the 360.
If you just look at that shiny plastic the wrong way it scratches. Really wish manufacturers would stop using it (sure it looks great first time out of the box).
If you just look at that shiny plastic the wrong way it scratches. Really wish manufacturers would stop using it (sure it looks great first time out of the box).
Dreams-Visions
Member
Not feeling it either.
But I have 2 PS3s and was not going to buy another, so I'm not the target audience.
But I have 2 PS3s and was not going to buy another, so I'm not the target audience.
H_Prestige
Banned
Except for the ridges, it's glossy like the original ps3.
They'll have to pull a one hell of a marketing campaign though to get games like LBP Karting and PSASBR not to bomb as it seems pretty gloomy, judging by even the internet interest in those games.
Maybe having them as packaged deals/bundles for Christmas would be smart. After all Sony did that with LBP2 and R&C last year and that bundle (costing 200 dollars) sold out.
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
Its looks even more like a grill than what the first one looked.
I always liked this concept art for a PS3 Slim:
Image Link: http://www.the-magicbox.com/1107/psthree.jpg
Source Link: http://www.the-magicbox.com/1107/game110726c.shtml
Image Link: http://www.the-magicbox.com/1107/psthree.jpg
Source Link: http://www.the-magicbox.com/1107/game110726c.shtml
boyshine
Member
The problem with Sony and their kids games is that they always fuck it up by making it PEGI 7 rated. The complete lack of kids games on PS3 with the PEGI 3 rating is one of the reasons why Wii is still the only option for families with small kids.
Graphics Horse
Member
shinra-bansho
Member
That´s true, the Sony Franchises are not nearly as big as Nintendos and need heavy advertising, but it could work if they do it right.
16GB Slim for 149 $/€ + family/casual friendly games + huge marketing campaign + a little luck and they could fuck Nintendo over really bad this christmas.
I always liked this concept art for a PS3 Slim:
Image Link: http://www.the-magicbox.com/1107/psthree.jpg
Source Link: http://www.the-magicbox.com/1107/game110726c.shtml
Ugh, looks like a slightly pimped VCR.
I've argued in the other thread that even a16GB Slim+Move+Wonderbook could sell well for around 225 (after all that's how much Kinect is selling for) if there is a big marketing 'be like Harry Potter/help your kids read and have fun' marketing push.
Other than that I'd say you're right the 16GB model has to be below 200 and a bundle with a kiddie game for Christmas is the way to go. We'll have to see though, because even LBP karting or PSASBR or Sly aren't exactly kiddie friendly (well the 3-10 year old category that Nintendo has). However, Sony's London studio which does most of the casual games (SingStar, Home, EyePet etc) usually announces games at Gamescon and releases in the same year.
StoppedInTracks
Member
Touched the images up. Comparison between other models:
Ugly or not it's at last a small PS3 unit.
The Spiderman font and the huge size dates it, but the design and materials used make it look a lot better than the other two. Especially if it's in a different color.
I´d argue that even the 250gb model should definitely stay below 200 if Sony wants to truly attract the mass market. It will also be interesting to see how Ms and Nintendo are going to react, i expect a rather large price drop for the 360 and Nintendo starting with 250 max.
Hope they never go the external PSU route, it's fucking awful to have PSU's dragging on cords, especially like in the original 360s
TheBanditKing
Member
you make it sound like the PSU is still internal for this, do we know that to be true?
Yeah but it saves a lot of space and reduces the internal temperature. Besides the external PSU for PS2 (or anything I can think of) was never as atrocious as the 360 one, there was no excuse for that monster. Also considering they shortened the power cable with the last Slim revision and extension cord is not much better
I think the 250GB model could drop down to 199 and it should do fine. It would be cheaper than comparable competition (i.e. Xbox360 with 250GB) and it is a basic 50 euro price cut, which would make the price lower by 100 in the past 2 years. Also as I've said during Christmas last year when Sony position the ps3 at 200 it sold like hotcakes.
Now the 16GB HAS to be between 150-180, though. If they decided to put 16GB at 200, 250GB at 250 and 500GB at 300GB then really they wouldn't generate any sort of momentum at all.
Live Free or Die
Banned
Best looking console ever.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
We know because it has a two pin fig 8 port on the back which is an AC input. Not only that but the FCC sticker has got 50/60hz listed as input which is AC. The PSU is internal and probably quite big given that it is rated for 190W peak power.
Unknown One
Member
I would rather have an external power supply. It'll be easier to replace if it gives out.
I know it's just personal taste, but I don't get it either. The original PS3 is butt ugly. I vastly prefer the slim.
I'll withhold final judgement on this new one until we get real pics, but a top loader in 2012 is a huge fail.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
Damn! Guess the general consensus here is the new slim ain't winning no beauty pageants. Lets hope it can at the very least play games... :|
TheBanditKing
Member
hmmm, but do you think that size comparison is accurate? I don't really care if the PSU is internal, I just want it smaller with less heat.