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Elon Musk leads 116 experts calling for outright ban of killer robots
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IdreamofHIME
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EchoChamber
Member
no matter what you do Elon , you can't change the future
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
If war has taught us anything it is that militaries seldom care about what's legal in their pursuit for an advantage in the arms race.
Unknown Soldier
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Coriolanus
Banned
Id figure that while a ban on fully atomated weapons might pass, a ban on AI-assisted weps is very unlikely to pass, and then... well, is a matter of how much people will fuck around with that liberty.
jellies_two
Member
Suckerberg: "Elon is being hysterical, we have nothing to worry about from mis-use of tech.
now excuse me I have to go back to helping trumps campaign team custom match Facebook users to voter rolls, because they spend a fortune on our ad department"
now excuse me I have to go back to helping trumps campaign team custom match Facebook users to voter rolls, because they spend a fortune on our ad department"
littleworm
Member
We must not allow a mine shaft gap.
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
A weapon to surpass it!
djplaeskool
Member
We were never meant to stop Judgement Day...
There must be an error in your programming if I can still reply after this
Chaos2Frozen
Member
No! My future career as a designer of killer robots and giant mecha! =(
Epsilon-delta
Banned
It's over before it began.
Master Yoshi
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VendettaRed07
Member
Did the killer robots ask for a raise?
Hurricane_Chris
DDK
Drones capable of making kill decisions are inevitable because the US military wants it. The best anyone, not actively involved in development or decision making regarding the use of the technology, can do is to become politically active and demand some sort of international transparent ethics review board.
Already, the US government uses machine learning to find and assign confidence scores to targets. Although the numbers are classified, it is highly likely that if you're confidence score is above a certain threshold a human presses a few buttons and you go from painted to eliminated just like that.
hmm...
Already, the US government uses machine learning to find and assign confidence scores to targets. Although the numbers are classified, it is highly likely that if you're confidence score is above a certain threshold a human presses a few buttons and you go from painted to eliminated just like that.
hmm...
Gotta agree.
I've long thought about the possibility of a hovoring whisper-drone with a sniper rifle; and how utterly terrifying that would be if you were a soldier. Basically anybody in it's battlespace would be doomed. If it can't get a firing solution on you it can just hovor over and move until it does, and you're insta-dead the very moment it has line of sight. A chilling thought about the battlefields of tomorrow.
I've long thought about the possibility of a hovoring whisper-drone with a sniper rifle; and how utterly terrifying that would be if you were a soldier. Basically anybody in it's battlespace would be doomed. If it can't get a firing solution on you it can just hovor over and move until it does, and you're insta-dead the very moment it has line of sight. A chilling thought about the battlefields of tomorrow.
I mean that is terrifying but also pretty amazing.
I knew it. All mods are Cylons.
encephalon
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Front Mission 2.
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
Wrong thread lol
Chaos2Frozen
Member
And if you really want to be forward thinking, you're going to want the killer robots on your side when we start invading alien worlds to spread democracy.
That would hasten the development of insta-kill spikes.
CassidyIzABeast
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Whoa whoa whoa. There are killers on both sides here.
JordanN
Banned
Ironically, I feel like Killer Robots would be the key to world peace.
It's like nuclear weapons. They're deadly but no country will invade the other if it means total destruction.
With killer robots, the playing field between big and small countries is equal. Just keep throwing robots at each other until one side depletes their resources. It would also mean no loss of human life because robots are valued more.
It's like nuclear weapons. They're deadly but no country will invade the other if it means total destruction.
With killer robots, the playing field between big and small countries is equal. Just keep throwing robots at each other until one side depletes their resources. It would also mean no loss of human life because robots are valued more.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
Small countries aren't going to be able to afford as many killer robots.
Nor have the resources to maintain them.
Coriolanus
Banned
not even remotely. With killer robots + machine learning, the country with the greatest industrial output + access to material resources will pretty much always win.
China looks at stuff like that and goes all "give now". With good reason.
ratcliffja
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He says this while creating his own army of killer robots in secret. Teslanators will destroy us all.
I see what they're getting at, but I don't think this can be stopped. Someone will develop them in secret to gain an edge, others will develop them because they're afraid someone is developing them in secret, and so on.
He's probably right about killer robots being a game-changer though. When you can mass produce robots from a factory that can fight wars with aimbot accuracy, then whoever mass produces that technology first will win in any war of attrition. That's terrifying.
Not to mention the amount of innocent life that can be lost if someone fucks up development or half-asses something like FoF or non-combatant detection (which is probably pretty far down the priority list for any company trying to make killbots).
He's probably right about killer robots being a game-changer though. When you can mass produce robots from a factory that can fight wars with aimbot accuracy, then whoever mass produces that technology first will win in any war of attrition. That's terrifying.
Not to mention the amount of innocent life that can be lost if someone fucks up development or half-asses something like FoF or non-combatant detection (which is probably pretty far down the priority list for any company trying to make killbots).
JordanN
Banned
So why didn't America win the Vietnam War?
A country could buy 500 Killbots, and hide them in forests, mountains and other impossible terrain.
It would be the invading country that would have to spend more money attempting to clear them out.
Seriously? LOL...
The ONLY reason U.S lost the Vietnam War was due to the public's disdain for it due to the loss of troops and family. If you take out the human cost of war, U.S would be even more a "beast" in war and likely would never lose another one and can drag it on for years (exception of maybe China and India because they have a lot of resources).
So what that guy just said, basically ensures U.S and countries with the manufacturing output, economy, and resources would have an advantage near impossible to overcome in even long term wars like Iraq and Afghanistan.
OrlanisWorks
Banned
I would definitely like to avoid a
scenario. AI killing machines is terrible idea, unless they are battling one another for our entertainment!
My man. 😂
Zero Dawn
My man. 😂
JordanN
Banned
And you don't think there wont be public outrage if the U.S attempted to destroy entire natural resources and environments?
Even the Vietnam War had the U.S attempting to deforest the country.
Frozenprince
Banned
I mean this won't do anything anyway. China and Russia and the US will still he building this shit even if there is international mandate, it'll just be in secret.