Stone Ocean
Member
The worst part is, this is not the first time Capcom has tried this and it has never, ever fucking worked. They simply refuse to learn from their own mistakes.
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Gamespot: Capcom Acknowledges Mixed Reaction To Dead Rising 4
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Hellraider
Member
Inafune's post Capcom career hate affecting people's perception of his work when he was making decisions at Capcom annoys me. For every bad decision that he was behind at the time, there were a couple of excellent ones. Won't go into details, but when all the other JP publishers were running around with their pants on fire having absolutely no idea what to do, Capcom had already set foot on the HD market with huge success alongside the Western publishers. Capcom at the time wasn't perfect, but the decline that we are witnessing today happened immediately after Inafune's departure.
Today's Capcom isn't where they are because of Inafune's mistakes 10 years ago. They are here because of the clusterfucks they manage to deliver pretty much daily for the past 7 years.
The timer isn't why the game is worse. You guys really are hard-up for that thing.
Mr. Pointy
Member
This is Capcom. They do this kind of thing all the time.
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Stone Ocean
Member
The timer separated Dead Rising from open world sandbox #12312 by giving it an unique challenge. It's not the reason but it's one of the things that made the game worse.
It worked for Resident Evil, duh. The zombie games market is super crowded, though, so making another game that's just like every other zombie game out there without a big name on the cover wasn't exactly smart.
Punchy4486
Banned
No shit.
We all saw this coming from a mile away. We saw this with RE6 and DmC. People who scream loudly to change features that make a game series unique are outnumbered by the actual fans of the game. So the actual fans don't buy it because why the fuck would they, and the vocal minority will play it once and move on to the next game that holds their attention span.
If From Software mass audience'd Souls games we'd get the same thing.
If Capcom mass audience'd REmake 2 by making it a shootfest we'd get the same thing.
Can we name games that strayed from its roots, appealed to the mass audience and was successful? I can think of Fallout and Elder Scrolls maybe.
Also CV are all right as evidenced by DR2 and OTR. But the producer of DR4 in all those interviews, fucking hell.
Developers need to take note of IOI and what they did to Hitman Absolution, and then how they went back and gave us Hitman 2016.
???
We all saw this coming from a mile away. We saw this with RE6 and DmC. People who scream loudly to change features that make a game series unique are outnumbered by the actual fans of the game. So the actual fans don't buy it because why the fuck would they, and the vocal minority will play it once and move on to the next game that holds their attention span.
If From Software mass audience'd Souls games we'd get the same thing.
If Capcom mass audience'd REmake 2 by making it a shootfest we'd get the same thing.
Can we name games that strayed from its roots, appealed to the mass audience and was successful? I can think of Fallout and Elder Scrolls maybe.
Also CV are all right as evidenced by DR2 and OTR. But the producer of DR4 in all those interviews, fucking hell.
Developers need to take note of IOI and what they did to Hitman Absolution, and then how they went back and gave us Hitman 2016.
???
Like I've said before, it's not even the changes themselves that put me off, it's the fact that everything was justified with "focus testing showed this". I might not like them but I could have respected the changes if they were part of an actual vision, but they clearly weren't. Everything I've seen makes it obvious it's a grotesque chimera of everyone's vision except the developers, with nothing to bind those thoughts together into something coherent (which the first Dead Rising games certainly had regardless of anything else).
Jawmuncher
Member
No shit.
We all saw this coming from a mile away. We saw this with RE6 and DmC. People who scream loudly to change features that make a game series unique are outnumbered by the actual fans of the game. So the actual fans don't buy it because why the fuck would they, and the vocal minority will play it once and move on to the next game that holds their attention span.
If From Software mass audience'd Souls games we'd get the same thing.
If Capcom mass audience'd REmake 2 by making it a shootfest we'd get the same thing.
Can we name games that strayed from its roots, appealed to the mass audience and was successful? I can think of Fallout and Elder Scrolls maybe.
Also CV are all right as evidenced by DR2 and OTR. But the producer of DR4 in all those interviews, fucking hell.
Developers need to take note of IOI and what they did to Hitman Absolution, and then how they went back and gave us Hitman 2016.
???
Lots of people bought RE6 though
Mr. Pointy
Member
It's an old joke where people mix up Capcom and Konami.
Triggerhappytel
Member
I mean, at least the devs and Capcom were upfront about it needing to sell more hence the focus testing, but when has this ever worked for a big videogame sequel?
Here's hoping this is the last time Capcom tries to homogenise one of their series in a desperate attempt to get more fans. They seriously can't be stupid enough to do this again after how many times they've messed it up, right?
Phoenix Wright Waifu Simulator game coming later this year, you can bet on it
The game was garbage, plain and simple. By trying to appeal to the mass audience instead of the actual fans who buy these games, they ruined one of my favorite franchises to come out of last generation. Surprisingly, the timer wasn't the biggest deal, and honestly it wouldn't have mattered considering the length of the game, which is truly pathetic. It was the brain dead difficulty/overabundance of life+regen, lack of variety in gameplay/skills comparison to previous games, and a boring story that ruined the characterization of Frank West and gave us one of the worst endings ever that truly made this game abysmal.
Oh, and it was buggy as shit. Easily one of the gilitchest games I ever played
I hope Capcom paid attention to the initial backlash and realized that this "mixed reaction" (ie: Everyone thinks it sucked) is a results of watering down a franchise to appeal to people that didn't like the series for what it was initially anyways. If they ever make a DR5 after this fiasco, they better give to to a competent group and make it a true Dead Rising game.
Oh, and it was buggy as shit. Easily one of the gilitchest games I ever played
I hope Capcom paid attention to the initial backlash and realized that this "mixed reaction" (ie: Everyone thinks it sucked) is a results of watering down a franchise to appeal to people that didn't like the series for what it was initially anyways. If they ever make a DR5 after this fiasco, they better give to to a competent group and make it a true Dead Rising game.
The first time I played the game about 10 minutes in Vic just stopped in a doorway and wouldn't move, blocking progression (for those who haven't played it, the first chapter of the game is completely linear and heavily scripted). After a couple of minutes of jumping into her I finally managed to clip through and trigger a cut-scene.
Isn't it deemed a failure in both, sales and reception (despite many people buying it)?
I see.
Sumio Mondo
Member
I've given up with this company now. Haven't bought a game of theirs new in almost half a decade now. RE6 was the final straw.
Their logo used to signify quality, now it just signifies mediocrity and disappointment to me.
Their logo used to signify quality, now it just signifies mediocrity and disappointment to me.
Doubt it, I'm sure there are more people that enjoyed the game then people hating it, they just the vocal minority.
Also people saying original dead rising fans hate 4 because there's no timer is like saying devil may cry fans hated DmC because of the hair.
AuthenticM
Member
Just make Dead Rising 5 like the first two.
It's not like Capcom Vancouver doesn't know how; they made the second game. I continue to believe that Off The Record is the best Dead Rising yet.
It's not like Capcom Vancouver doesn't know how; they made the second game. I continue to believe that Off The Record is the best Dead Rising yet.
There is a difference between accepting constructive criticism in a few areas and designing your entire game around the concept of "what people want". It is abundantly obvious that they had no vision for this game.
I'm pretty sure this is the only game I've ever intentionally boycotted in all my years of gaming.
I'm pretty sure this is the only game I've ever intentionally boycotted in all my years of gaming.
