Gravy Boat
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I can't keep up with peoples opinions on motion controls.
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DOOM on Switch confirmed to have motion controls [Up: Waggle, not gyro]
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OrbitalBeard
Member
Plenty of people have embraced gyro aiming years ago. It's wonderful.
"Waggle" (random motions that are used to replace a button press), which was so dominant on Wii, sucks and most people rightfully hate it.
o.0 wonder how killing demons with HD rumble feels, do hope the motion is gyro based like splatoon.
Definitely getting more tempted to pick this up.
Jonneh3003
Banned
Most people love aiming with motion controls. People generally don't like forced waggling though (Odyssey may actually change some views on that).
Robin64
Member
Basically this. As a substitute for a mouse? Awesome. Performing a waggle to make an action that a button usually does? Terrible.
tkscz
Member
does this mean gyro aiming or waggle controls?
Gyro aiming, I hope.
Which is what I think "motion controls" refers to in this game....
How do you know?
JigglesBunny
Banned
Taking a chainsaw to a demon with HD Rumble... nnnff.
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
Mouse >> IR aiming >> Analog + gyro aiming > gyro aiming > analog aiming >> Digital aiming.
wild wild rice
Member
Rip and waggle until it is done
j/k gyro aiming rules. But this game is so damn fast I imagine everyone using gyro aiming to have demonic ganglion cysts by the end.
j/k gyro aiming rules. But this game is so damn fast I imagine everyone using gyro aiming to have demonic ganglion cysts by the end.
super-famicom
Member
When doing Hunk's neck snap in RE4's Mercenaries Mode, all you had to do was push a button. But when playing the Wii version, I would mimic the head snap motion while pushing the button. It made the game much more fun for me. But yeah, I wouldn't want to waggle all the time. Doing a motion for Glory Kills would be great though.
Skittzo0413
Member
Why do you think that?
There's really no indication in the video that they are prompting glory kills with waggle, I can't think of any other uses for waggle in this game, and there have been basically no waggle games on the Switch so far. The logical conclusion here is gyro aiming, but it's definitely not confirmed yet.
However, motion controls being a new toggle in the settings menu (that wasn't there on the previous build) is confirmed.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
substitute for a mouse is quite a stretch. As a supplement to an analog though its good.
I still don't use it though, it dictates your posture too much.
TheOfficeMut
Unconfirmed Member
I don't want to make a different topic for this question but since we are discussing Doom, is there any word on whether the older Doom games (1, 2 & 3) will ever come to Switch or other consoles?
farscape82
Member
Just a heads up, for people that are still on the fence about the price.
The South African store is showing now the price, it will be 669 ZAR, which is around 42 .
Combined with Motion Controls, it is a defined purchase for me.
The South African store is showing now the price, it will be 669 ZAR, which is around 42 .
Combined with Motion Controls, it is a defined purchase for me.
Schucky Ducky
Banned
Source on this?
Really hope this means gyro assisted aiming. I would absolutely love that.
mocolostrocolos
Member
Motion controls != Waggle controls.
In games like BOTW or Splatoon 2 aiming with the gyro sensor is god-tier.
Gravy Boat
Member
I disagree completely but to each their own I guess.
Bjoern the Smexy
Member
Jonneh3003
Banned
All recent Zelda's have handled their gyro aiming extremely well. It made the Ocarina of Time archery mini games so much better.
Only because the developers stated clearly that they wouldn't implement gyro aiming.
I appreciate things can change, but my gut is telling me that "motion controls" is nothing more than gory kills with a "waggle".
I'd love to be wrong though.
SunBroDave
Member
lol
Probably didn't know if they'd have time to implement. Kinda a fast turnaround on this one.
I was gonna pass cuz of the price and maaaaybe get it after a drop in price.now for sure I'm gonna get it.
tkscz
Member
Oops, the words, "I hope" was supposed to follow that. Updating.
FreedomFighter
Member
They read GAF and heard us whining and bitchin ' about it. And it worked!
Skittzo0413
Member
All we have is Bethesda telling something to Rolling Stone that had Rolling Stone reporting that there will be no gyro aiming. Neither id nor Panic Button commented on it from what I can tell.
But what's telling to me is that this statement was made when they were playing the demo that had no motion controls toggle in the options menu. Now, in a more recent demo we have that toggle. That suggests to me that they changed their mind on gyro implementation which tons of people asked for, rather than introduced some weird waggle controls that nobody asked for.
It's the fact that it wasn't there previously which makes me believe it's gyro. Also that there are no waggle games on the Switch so far, I'd bet Nintendo is likely hoping developers avoid using waggle controls in general.
Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
Bait ?
FreedomFighter
Member
I would love to use the joycons as a Wiimote and nunchuk set up but I'll be fine with gyro too.
You might be right, especially if the below means anything:
As I can't think of any valid reason the video would need to be removed.
Skittzo0413
Member
Oh interesting, maybe they broke a preview embargo. So I guess we'll be hearing about this one way or the other before long.
mavericktopgun
Member
It's ok Bethesda. It's already day 1 for me .
Can't effin wait!!!
.Can't effin wait!!!
Phife Dawg
Member
Gyro aiming=insta-buy
Angel Whispers
Member
Reducing motion controls to "waggle" is just asinine at this point.
Gaming is more than just pressing a button on the same tired-ass Dual Shock Variants. It isn't necessarily "faster" or "more efficient", too, and I would present that case. Learning how to play with a modern Pro Controller can be, and often is overwhelming, as it's the equivalent of learning a new alphabet and its phonetics. Motion control is easier in that you know you've performed an action, and therefore it should be replicated on screen. From personal experience, and as an example, I've always said that the definitive version of LOZ: Twilight Princess is on the Wii, because movement in a 3D space was simplified with the Wii Remote. A flick of the wrists was enough to perform an attack, and locking a target was easier with the pointer control. Apart from accessibility reasons, they're fun options to have, and on top of that, motion controls are existing proof that one can create more compelling and immersive experiences without making visual presentations more (photo)realistic.
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JershJopstin
Banned
Haven't played DOOM. May pick up this version if there's gyro assisted aim. I was bad at analog aim before, but man, after all the time I've invested in Splatoon, it feels terrible playing pure analog now lol.
Huh, interesting; while I'm also in favor of motion controls, I've never really liked TP's Wii controls. The sword swings felt like a higher effort button-press, and I don't have a steady enough hand to aim the Wii Remote well. This might've just been me playing it years after the GC version (and after the luxury of Skyward Sword) though, breaking muscle memory and having experienced superior motion control.
tkscz
Member
Isn't gyro aiming in Skyrim? At least for bow and arrow play.