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Scanline screenshot thread. Because 240p is all the p's I need.
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Looks gorgeous
davidwhangchoi
Member
R-Type from Turbo Express =)
Kawika
Member
combination of a few things but I want both rgb and hdmi and I have an ossc. So either i would rgb mod my nt or get a nt mini and just call it a day.
Laevateinn
Member
Feeling kinda sick so I'm lazing around today and playing games all day. I've beaten three so far today.
Gonna play Castlevania Bloodlines after dinner.
Gonna play Castlevania Bloodlines after dinner.
Hi all, send me a PM if you'd like to be invited to the retro discord server, a bunch of us are on there. This thread was amazing, and I'd love for y'all to come over. Thanks for making this a 240p haven while it lasted.
I'll get back to everyone who pm's as soon as possible.
Guys, if I do not respond to your PM's it's due to the new 10 minute time limit rules. I will get you today or tomorrow at the latest. Keep checking back for your pms and don't get banned yet.
I'll get back to everyone who pm's as soon as possible.
Guys, if I do not respond to your PM's it's due to the new 10 minute time limit rules. I will get you today or tomorrow at the latest. Keep checking back for your pms and don't get banned yet.
Newk86
Member
Picked up my first ever CRT the other week, a Phillips 29PT3323. Was previously using my retro consoles with a Framemeister on my Panasonic 1080p plasma . I figured I may as well for the price... cost just $5 AUD! Then another $40 AUD for the stand.
Took a lazy few pics of it running with my phone yesterday (PS1 via S-Video).
Took a lazy few pics of it running with my phone yesterday (PS1 via S-Video).
Type_Raver
Member
Might sound like a silly question, but does anyone run one of these converter/upscalers to apply scanlines on their modern consoles?
Does it work?
Be curious to see someone running a switch in dock mode through an converter...
Does it work?
Be curious to see someone running a switch in dock mode through an converter...
Hi all, you can find most of retro GAF (as well as the continuation of this thread) on www.retrogameboards.com. Registration is open.
I hope to see you there.
A lot of us are also on reset era for our non-retro fix as well.
I hope to see you there.
A lot of us are also on reset era for our non-retro fix as well.
Prisonerofheaven
Neo Member
I'll see you all there then, I was in NeoGAF almost only for this thread ;-)
baudelinog
Member
Ouch! Lamentably, the access to that web is denied by my company network... Not so with NeoGaf and ResetEra.
I'm working on that. Same is true at my office as well.
Togh
Member
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!56K WARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!NOT FOR DIAL-UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Next gen console screenshots?
The last hope for image quality?
Psh. Don't make me laugh.
This thread is all about posting pics of games with scanlines.
Brought on due to demand from the regulars over at the thread called "Upscalers, CRT's, PVM's & RGB: Retro gaming done right!", photos of actual CRTs in action, as well as screengrabs from upscalers and emulators are all welcome here. Here are some guideline rules so we can maximize our fun. If possible please:
1. Label all screenshots with the game's title (unless a title screen is visible or the game's identity is otherwise obvious),
2. Label whether you are posting a pic from a real CRT, upscaling device, or emulator.
3. If it's from an upscaling device, please provide the name of device. If it's from an emulator, provide the name of the emulator and filter/setting applied.
Before this OP was edited, one user asked a very great question: Why scanlines? Is it just about nostalgia?
Well no. Many people, myself included, believe that artists drew their pixel and polygonal artwork in 240p with scanlines in mind and never intended for it to look jagged via raw unfiltered upscaling on non-CRT technology. If you think about it, this makes sense because fixed-pixel HDTVs (e.g. plasma and LCD screens) didn't become standard tech for consumer use in the living room until well after the 90s, far after these games were being enjoyed by their original fanbases when they were first released. The scanlines add dimension and texture to the image that was intended to be there and which goes away when simply viewing raw pixel art in HD without them. If you'll take a look at the following, you'll notice that the pixel art looks unnaturally jaggy in HD, and looks smooth when rendered with the scanlines of a proper 240p image:
Super Metroid on Wii VC at 1080p
Super Metroid on a real CRT from a real SNES at 240p
Super Contra before and after HLSL
If you're interested in how to achieve the best possible image out of your old original consoles so that you can have the most authentic and aesthetically pleasing old-school gaming experience, please see the aforementioned thread, "Upscalers, CRT's, PVM's & RGB: Retro gaming done right!"
Also, a very important place for all things retro, check out "Retro-GAF Unite!" as the best overall resource for your retro obsession.
Other great resources:
In Search of Scanlines: The Best CRT Monitor for Retro Gaming
Shmups forum: MAME HLSL CRT SCANLINE EMULATION PRESETS
Fudohs website:
Downsampling/Scanlines Demystified
Deinterlacing, Scaling, Processing
Anyway, happy postings:
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Scanline porn posted by PSA:
Can you post again your images about "Super Contra before and after HLSL"? They seem to were removed and I remember they showed a crucial difference in colors when using scanlines on 2D games from that era.
lukilladog
Member
Why is this thread so forgotten? 
It was an inspiration for me and pushed me into tv rgb retro gaming. I even have some photos of my progression since then:
Old 13" sharp I have since forever. Very nice but a little small:
Then found a panasonic 20 incher:
Then bought another panasonic, pretty much the same tv but with a black case and small footpring:
Then I found some JVC´s NIB for cheap, and that´s what I´m using now:
It was an inspiration for me and pushed me into tv rgb retro gaming. I even have some photos of my progression since then:Old 13" sharp I have since forever. Very nice but a little small:
Then found a panasonic 20 incher:
Then bought another panasonic, pretty much the same tv but with a black case and small footpring:
Then I found some JVC´s NIB for cheap, and that´s what I´m using now:
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Chairman Tickles
Banned
This is like porn to me. How I miss that CRT goodness. Thanks guys.
lukilladog
Member
My previous photos were bad man
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Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Wow, that's some kinda necro-bump.
What's the second game?
What's the second game?
Tarin02543
Member
Simpler, better times.
Benjamin_MFF
Member
This thread looks so good. Can't wait to contribute some stills.
Faenrir
Member
Hey all, sorry for the tiny necromancy but this thread is still relevant.
I'm working on my game (pixel art rpg shmup) and recently added a CRT mode (sadly, i haven't managed to add a good blur to it).
I'd like your opinion on it.
Here are a few screenshots with and without the filter and with and without the different scaling options (hardware, software and hardware with the CRT filter).
The hardware scaling adds a bit of blur, the software one is more crisp but not pixel perfect (it's close but it shows on some elements).
So if you could give me your opinion on the different options, it would help me. I'm hoping everyone finds a setting that they like but always looking at ways to improve the game
No scale, no filter
No scale, filter
Hardware scaling, no filter
Software scaling, no filter
Hardware scaling, filter
Thanks for your time !
I'm working on my game (pixel art rpg shmup) and recently added a CRT mode (sadly, i haven't managed to add a good blur to it).
I'd like your opinion on it.
Here are a few screenshots with and without the filter and with and without the different scaling options (hardware, software and hardware with the CRT filter).
The hardware scaling adds a bit of blur, the software one is more crisp but not pixel perfect (it's close but it shows on some elements).
So if you could give me your opinion on the different options, it would help me. I'm hoping everyone finds a setting that they like but always looking at ways to improve the game
No scale, no filter
No scale, filter
Hardware scaling, no filter
Software scaling, no filter
Hardware scaling, filter
Thanks for your time !
cireza
Banned
Your internal resolution seems to be 256 lines.Hey all, sorry for the tiny necromancy but this thread is still relevant.
I'm working on my game (pixel art rpg shmup) and recently added a CRT mode (sadly, i haven't managed to add a good blur to it).
I'd like your opinion on it.
Here are a few screenshots with and without the filter and with and without the different scaling options (hardware, software and hardware with the CRT filter).
The hardware scaling adds a bit of blur, the software one is more crisp but not pixel perfect (it's close but it shows on some elements).
So if you could give me your opinion on the different options, it would help me. I'm hoping everyone finds a setting that they like but always looking at ways to improve the game
No scale, no filter
No scale, filter
Hardware scaling, no filter
Software scaling, no filter
Hardware scaling, filter
Thanks for your time !
First picture is perfectly clean of course, integer scaling x3 it seems.
Second picture has even scanlines so that's good and logical, they are a bit strong, you could maybe offer one more filter ? One that darkens only one line out of three.
Third picture adds blur of course, that's unavoidable.
Fourth one makes "uneven" lines and columns which is unavoidable as well.
Finally the fifth screen is an option I would not offer, as it produces uneven scanlines which are quite ugly and that I never use in games. But that's only my personal opinion of course.
For 1080p display, I would offer a x4 integer scaling with a smooth scanline filter based on 3 lines out of the 4 that makes the original pixel (light grey, normal color, light grey, dark grey).
Overall, I think that you are making the right efforts here.
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Faenrir
Member
Thanks for your reply...
The game actually is in 768p base res but with the pixels being 3pixels wide.
(so yeah basically everything is drawn in x3).
This way the scaling is less cpu intensive...however, to scale it in 1080 means it can't just be 1 time more like 4x, so i'vd come up with the 2 imperfect solutions of software/hardware scaling.
It should also work on different resolutions though, haven't tested above 1080 as i don't havd a 4k screen but that means the solution needs to work with a wide array of resolutions and also on the least possible computing power.
I already have way too much overhead due to the system i use (sadly i didn't start this project in c++ as it started as something completely different).
Not sure what you mean by uneven scanlines, though?
I wish i could do something like the Sonic Mania filter, it's pretty much perfect
The game actually is in 768p base res but with the pixels being 3pixels wide.
(so yeah basically everything is drawn in x3).
This way the scaling is less cpu intensive...however, to scale it in 1080 means it can't just be 1 time more like 4x, so i'vd come up with the 2 imperfect solutions of software/hardware scaling.
It should also work on different resolutions though, haven't tested above 1080 as i don't havd a 4k screen but that means the solution needs to work with a wide array of resolutions and also on the least possible computing power.
I already have way too much overhead due to the system i use (sadly i didn't start this project in c++ as it started as something completely different).
Not sure what you mean by uneven scanlines, though?
I wish i could do something like the Sonic Mania filter, it's pretty much perfect
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Harlock
Member
You should start a new one. The original user who created this had a mental breakdown.
Xdrive05
Member
Oh, man. I bought this gigantic Sony CRT widescreen, 720p/1080i set about a decade ago. It was AMAZING for the 6 months that it worked. It was my PS3/Xbox 360 daily driver / 2nd PC monitor for the time. I miss that set. :-(
Getting rid of it was a nightmare as I had to take it down stairs.
Getting rid of it was a nightmare as I had to take it down stairs.
mild sriracha
Member
CRT monitor is beautiful & this feels like I am watching porn.
Shake Your Rump
Member
I was just searching for this thread yesterday. I couldn't remember the title.
I recently bought an N64 and GameCube to go along with my PS1 and PS2. I played through Mario 64, got a nice bit into Ocarina of Time before making the mistake of testing Paper Mario. Paper Mario has had me hooked all week. What a fantastic game.
My plan is to start Prince of Persia Sands of Time tomorrow now that I found my s-video cable. I played it on PS2 back at release, but supposedly the GC version is superior.
Image above is my JVC 27D500, using composite. Somehow this TV managed to get near perfect gamma and greyscale when I calibrated using my colorimeter. It's a full curved tube, yet clearly beats my 24" flat Toshiba, and the numerous Sony Wegas I have and have had. I also have a curved 32" Trinitron in the basement that is archived for the future.
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