The main importance of Monster Hunter is for the Japanese market, and I think there are a fair number of people there that would pick the portable version.
Just a hunch.
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Nikkei Trendy reports rumor that PS Vita Monster Hunter due for 2012H2
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The main importance of Monster Hunter is for the Japanese market, and I think there are a fair number of people there that would pick the portable version.
Just a hunch.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Dual analogue Monster Hunter is the best Monster Hunter. Fuck yeah!
Dedication Through Light
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I thought it would be MH4? Capcom must want an MH on every platform.
It probably is.
Edit: After reading the whole thread, it is just a magazine "guess what will happen in 2012" feature. Useless.
Sammy Samusu
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I'm dying.
djplaeskool
Member
MH Frontier on a portable would be awesome though...
Callibretto
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unless you're japanese publishers. the whole japanese publishers tactics is to re-release the game on different platform with minimal/some improvement so people buy the game again rather than releasing multiplatform titles at the same time and people only buy one of them.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
The reason for the dual-line before was that each served a uniquely different purpose (mainline for online play and introduction, Portable for local play and refinement) but MH3G/MH4 pretty much shattered that. Actually MH is triple-line if you consider Frontier (different business model that serves Asia).
The release of 3G effectively makes the Portable line redundant though, that's why it's a question if it'll continue. Alternating competitive releases that serve the same base don't really make much logical or business sense, but who really knows, stranger things have happened.
ShinNL
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The Nikkei Trendy report on 3DS redesign is being debunked hard in the other thread and you guys thought it was a good idea to split this bit of information for a new thread for people who don't read threads and only thread titles/OP? Good job, mods.
1. Nikkei Trendy =/= Nikkei, no record of credibility.
2. Speculation =/= rumor.
lunchwithyuzo
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That's worse than Frontier, probably worse than no MH at all, it'd be a pure cash grab and signal a dead end to the fanbase. The only way Sony/Vita comes out of this looking good is if it's P3G. Or maybe even Frontier 2 (for PC/PS3/Vita, based off Tri engine?).
crimsonheadGCN
Banned
The price cut is for one retailer.
Sorry man, Frontier is never awesome on anything.
Doubt it since 3rd is already playable on the Vita, dual sticks and all, and HD is pretty much an identical game save for the HD, there is no way they could justify a higher price tag.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Did anyone honestly not expect a MH on Vita?
Barack Lesnar
Banned
Lots of people thought there wouldn't be one. Go view any of the past threads on this and anytime someone brings up the possibility Nintendo dudes reply by laughing at you or saying it ain't happening.
Everyone should be happy about this instead of going into defense mode because it means Vita might be successful in Japan after all and that's a good thing for the handheld market.
durrrrrrrrrr
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Nowhere to go but up from here on.
They make a lot of sense if they extract more value per customer. You can be sure Capcom made more money off line '3' by virtue of the dual-line 'Tri/3rd' thing than if, say, just 3rd existed.
I can't see Capcom reducing the number of offerings in the 4th line, and thus reducing the opportunity to extract more money from MH fans' pockets. It is risky to float both in a portable context, but the reward could be big too since that's the context people seem to really want MH in. If they have decided to make both lines' homes on portables, they would have to be careful about timing and spacing to avoid cannabilisation - but it would actually help to differentiate them if they put each on a different platform, each with reasonably different strengths and capabilities.
Ratrat already demonstrated that this, as well as the 3DS Lite news, is just mere speculation from Nikkei Trendy, which is pretty different from Nikkei. So, nothing confirmed, neither rumoured. Pure speculation.
Yeah man, I think you're right! I remember they made up their mind with that RE4 gamecube exclusivity deal too!
Lol...
walking fiend
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lunchwithyuzo
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You're not listening, Tri and 3rd served different bases, that's why both made sense. Tri G sort of undoes that though, it's effectively crossed over and is now serving the Portable base. For the Portable line to continue then it will also necessitate a big shift, like co-opting Frontier as an example.
yurinka
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MHP3rdHD doesn't make sense because MHP3rd already runs on Vita, and more resolution vs filtered emulation wouldn't be enough.
It would be too late for a direct MH3G port. But in this case it would be better later than never.
A spin-off like these released in PSP with the MH cats would be pointless.
So I bet it would be MH3G HD (Vita, PS3) :
Think MH3G + some new content (some few extra missions, some few new monsters), online crossplatform play like in MH3PHD. 3D for the PS3 version and a Near based gift feature, to send weapons, armors, items or even custom missions in the Vita version. I doubt that if Capcom and Sony did all this work for this crossplatform feature / porting for only 1 game. They like to port everything, and since MH3G uses MT Framework Mobile (already shown in Vita, and running all HD version features), it wouldn't be so hard or expensive to up port it to Vita and PS3.
Considering the typical timed exclusives, I think it will be released like 6 months after the 3DS release, not a year after.
I think MH4 will be multiplatform and will be released in at least Vita and 3DS (who knows, maybe PS3 and Wii too). But I think H2 2012 is too soon for it. At that time they still can be selling MH3G at a reduced price, and a cheap port like I mentioned.
MHTri, MH3G and MH4 never have been mentioned as exclusive.
It would be too late for a direct MH3G port. But in this case it would be better later than never.
A spin-off like these released in PSP with the MH cats would be pointless.
So I bet it would be MH3G HD (Vita, PS3) :
Think MH3G + some new content (some few extra missions, some few new monsters), online crossplatform play like in MH3PHD. 3D for the PS3 version and a Near based gift feature, to send weapons, armors, items or even custom missions in the Vita version. I doubt that if Capcom and Sony did all this work for this crossplatform feature / porting for only 1 game. They like to port everything, and since MH3G uses MT Framework Mobile (already shown in Vita, and running all HD version features), it wouldn't be so hard or expensive to up port it to Vita and PS3.
Considering the typical timed exclusives, I think it will be released like 6 months after the 3DS release, not a year after.
I think MH4 will be multiplatform and will be released in at least Vita and 3DS (who knows, maybe PS3 and Wii too). But I think H2 2012 is too soon for it. At that time they still can be selling MH3G at a reduced price, and a cheap port like I mentioned.
RE4 was announced as one of the 'Big 5 Capcom exclusives for Gamecube', like the PS3 MH3.
MHTri, MH3G and MH4 never have been mentioned as exclusive.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
If Tri G HD happens, it'll be on Wii U. Nintendo no doubt has that shit locked down tight, otherwise we'd have already seen Tri on PS3.
It's going to have to be 3rd G if it's not something else insulting like another 3rd HD or Frontier port.
It's going to have to be 3rd G if it's not something else insulting like another 3rd HD or Frontier port.
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Zoramon089
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Completely different situations. We're all fairly sure Nintendo paid for exclusivity while RE4 was only announced as exclusive because teh producer loved Nintendo and hated Sony. Then Capcom forced it to be ported by someone else and he left the company
I read you as talking about them serving different purposes, not different bases. But I'd be surprised if there wasn't a good deal of overlap. I think there was definitely an element of extracting greater value out of a core of MH fans using two vectors vs everyone just buying one or other type of game - such that if you can find one game to serve both you'll come away with the same number of sales. Not sure Capcom would risk coming away with fewer total sales by running with one 'universal' track on one platform vs the previous situation.
BUT...who knows. Just saying, I don't think Capcom would let a (relatively) little thing like having to clearly distinguish their tracks to avoid compatibility confusion from putting out as much MH as they think the market can bear.
1. It's already on iOS.
2. The MH team already works with small budgets and short-ish schedules, so I doubt they have much interest in making an "AAA" version when it already sells like hotcakes on portables.
DangerousDave
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Is already in iOS. And in PS3 (the MH 3rdHD) and in 360 (MH Freedom). And in Android. And even in Symbian.
I think that the only platform that don't have Monster Hunter (in any form) is Facebook. Yet.
Father_Brain
Banned
Can someone who reads Japanese translate this new post from Esuteru? Seems to be casting doubt on both this and the 3DSL rumor, but I might have it wrong.
Wait facebook is involved in this discussion now?
fa real, crapcom is just milking yall
Sho_Nuff82
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Why wouldn't this come out? And cross-platform with the PS3 version? Activision likes money.
Yes, for me about 9,000 percent.
Zoramon089
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I wonder if the thread title was changed to Japanese analyst predicts Vita rumor in 2012 we'd still have the same responses...
It's not even a rumor...it's a prediction
It's not even a rumor...it's a prediction
mugurumakensei
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it is actually analyst predicts rumor of a possible MH announcement.
lunchwithyuzo
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I don't see why you'd make a distiction between base and purpose when I pretty clearly spelled out the functional aspects between the lines. I can only assume you're thinking "base" in terms of console war allegience if you made that distinction, but what I'm saying is that audience follows function in Monster Hunter's case. Not Nintendo/Sony, but console/handheld, online/local and creation/refinement. Tri G throws a big fat wrench in that previous delineation.
You also need to stop with the false equivalency to Tri/3rd. What you're suggesting works against the co-existence inherent there, it makes the lines directly competitive. For the Portable line to continue it logically needs to fundamentally change (ie: move to console, online focus, subscrption model, etc) or Capcom runs the risk of hurting the franchise longer term. I guess they already flirted with that a little with 3rd HD though.
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