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Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
...No Panasonic.
Panasonic provided both the discs and disc drives for the GC, Wii, and Wii U. I believe they also provided the HDMI controller on Wii U as well.
Something is up...
C A R T R I D G E S !
Yes. No disc drive.
Better start getting used to cartridges again.
BRocknRolla
Member
I mean, if we're talking about the handheld element, there's really nothing surprising at all about that.
Jonneh3003
Banned
Oooh baby, it's got to be announced soon. I suppose Star Fox Zero and Zelda U can't have too much light taken off them. Star Fox will likely have the same fate regardless.
Yes, if it's handheld 2016 and console 2017, then this would not be surprising.
Pancake Mix
Copied someone else's pancake recipe
Übermatik;193579796 said:
Solid state media is superior so I'd be fine with this, Nintendo must have found some cost savings to be had if they're really doing this for both form factors, cause consumers will not pay more for cards than larger PS4/XB1 discs.
Just don't expect them to be physically larger than 3DS cards/carts so don't get N64 images in your head.
Possibly no HDMI out either although they could find another manufacturer for an HDMI controller. Handheld only this year? As long as whatever it is is not digital only (I know Macronix developed DS and 3DS cards) then it's all good. I was fine with discs but if this can work for console again too....good.
AstroNut325
Member
Eh... I thought it was always rumored to launch in 2016. So I didn't think that was any kind of new info.
There's also no AMD (who are all but confirmed to be providing the SoC for at least the home console) and no Samsung (who are likely to provide the eMMC flash chips), and no Texas Instruments (who provide a variety of minor ICs in all Nintendo hardware), etc, etc.
It's not a complete list of suppliers, just those that the author's sources reported as providing components.
Edit: Also note that it's not a new piece of info, it's from a Digitimes report from November. The Macronix news seems to corroborate it, though.
Wasn't there a patent/thread a few months ago suggesting that the same game cards could be used in both a handheld and a console? I think I like the idea.
Edit: http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1099932
Edit: http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1099932
GustyGardens
Banned
Nishoku
Pixart
Lingsen
Coxon
Jentech
A 50GB BD-R can be bought by $2. And, obviously, that's not the actual cost to manufacture it.
Fourth Storm
Member
Re: Pixart
This is one of the most interesting suppliers to me, as they provide the IR camera in the Wii Remote and also provide a wide variety of optical and laser sensors for everything from gesture tracking to pulse detection.
This is one of the most interesting suppliers to me, as they provide the IR camera in the Wii Remote and also provide a wide variety of optical and laser sensors for everything from gesture tracking to pulse detection.
BRocknRolla
Member
Don't tease me with the vitality sensor...
Fourth Storm
Member
They'll bring it back some day! I know they will. There was also that patent from issued to a Nintendo employee that used a linear optical sensor for the same purpose.
Anyway, interesting in that it appears Nintendo are sticking with ROM in the NX (handheld at least). This may put to rest some of the speculation that they have created a new flash-based medium.
Graphics Horse
Member
Hmm... any idea if the n3DS uses them for head tracking?
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Fourth Storm
Member
Hmm. Not sure. That's just done with a normal (low res) camera. There's no component information on the part itself.
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nintendo+3DS+XL+2015+Teardown/36346
anexanhume
Member
Thanks for putting those together. Sounds like peripherals and accessories, not necessarily the main console.
We can assume AMD won that, for now.
Milly Osworth
Member
Maybe you can download games on your console, then put them on a cartridge so you can play on your handheld.
Jonneh3003
Banned
I wonder how the "hardcore" crowd will react to cartridge based console games?
I'm sure many will assume cartridge=bad
I'm sure many will assume cartridge=bad
Davey Cakes
Member
I'm down for cartridges on both the console and handheld. We're past the point where cartridges are costly.
What I'd like to see (Not that I'm interested in handhelds) is make the console take cartridges also. Buy one game, play on both. With digital downloads, can download to either system to play.
We know they can last years and save games would be on the machine itself now I'd imagine so no need for battery backup. The only things that would bother me is if significantly affects price and throughput speed. I'm not sure how fast that sort of ROM goes.
Jawmuncher
Member
Wonder if they'll do the Western Launch first for the holiday's and then Japan later.
Bony Manifesto
Member
Agent Unknown
Member
I welcome our new mini cartridge overlords.
Seriously, a reveal of some kind has got to be coming soon from Nintendo.
Seriously, a reveal of some kind has got to be coming soon from Nintendo.
James Scott
Banned
Could just be the handheld unit, but cartridges are rumored to come back based on the patents
Davey Cakes
Member
Do any of the patents have anything involving discs at all?
I know that patents aren't representative of the final product but the one that shows a system without an optical drive seems like good enough evidence that console cartridges will return.
Just to clarify, in that tweet Zhuge is just quoting what said in the second Digitimes rumour article about NX. You know, the one where they revised down their shipment forecast from 20 to 12 millions
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20151130PD203.html
It's not something new. But, again, since it seems the first Digitimes article was the first piece of news explicitly stating how Macronix is involved with NX production, we could assume their sources can be close enough to the real picture (shipments forecasts aside).
http://www.digitimes.com/news/a20151130PD203.html
It's not something new. But, again, since it seems the first Digitimes article was the first piece of news explicitly stating how Macronix is involved with NX production, we could assume their sources can be close enough to the real picture (shipments forecasts aside).
JaseMath
Member
This is terrifying.
Graphics Horse
Member
Ah ok, i forgot it was all on one, guess it must report IR as a 4th colour channel.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I honestly believe it'll be worked into the next controller.
Fourth Storm
Member
Well, that patent mentions compatibility with another console which includes an optical drive. It also only mentions a card reader in the context of providing OS updates. Game data would be downloaded over a network and stored on an internal HDD. People kind of read "cartridges" into that whole thing without going through the text. Could've just been a Wii U slim even.
I wonder how the "hardcore" crowd will react to cartridge based console games?
I'm sure many will assume cartridge=bad
Well, the games will all have digital as an option. SO if you dont want tiny cartridges, go digital.
I have thinking the same about a few months ago and I think this feature would be very awesome. Maybe there will be games that only will run in the NX console, maybe others only will run (or will have more sense to play) on NX handled, but if a large porcentage of games will to run on both platforms with similar performances (maybe different specs) they kill two birds with a stone: they appeal both the japanese and no-japanese audience and don't develope the same game (specially multiplayer titles) twice.
KratosEnergyDrink
Member
Production of NX will start in 2016, release 2017.
The_Intruder
Member
Some believe the "home console" will be launch in 2017 and this still could be the case.
They could always put 5GB on the card then make you download the other 40GB once you put it in your NX.
Kind of mindblowing that six years later, only MGSV actually happened.