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Microsoft sells Mediaroom, Xbox to be their TV strategy going forward
- Thread starter infinityBCRT
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Then games will have less of a focus in that wouldn't it?
Now wouldn't this be an interesting turn of events. Their data not giving them the full picture and leads them to this mess.
Vinterbird
Member
From what rumors suggest: Actual TV on your Xbox, making it act like a cable box.
I honestly don't think it will have less focus then it has now. But there will be more elements in the new Xbox, making it seem at a surface level like MS is not deep into games, but I think the amount of investment and output will be the same (perhaps greater, given that Microsoft has made some heavy investments in new 1st party studios).
Eh why not? All of their previous attempts to fight Apple has worked so well, may as well try gaming consoles next.
Uiki
Member
Judging only from the last 3 years.....no.
infinityBCRT
Member
Thurrott made it sound like the next one will just be called Xbox as well.
statham
Member
this is what I hope, I love the voice control on the 360 and me saying "xbox, msnbc" is going to be very cool.
infinityBCRT
Member
I think this is the thing that people shouldn't get caught up on-- the last 3 years their best minds have been working on Durango stuff.
That being said, all of the rumours so far have been worrying. I initially brushed it off, but as others have said, where there is smoke, there is fire.
Also, I wouldn't be too worried about this news in particular. If they offer amazing TV services, it doesn't really affect me positively or negatively about the next Xbox as a games platform.
Still, the more I see details about Next Xbox, the more I see them basically saying "bye bye!" to any possibility of having a good European presence. We don't even know what the hell is a Roku here (Italy) :lol It really sounds like a sort of N64-2.
metareferential
Member
Well, in this PR they mention games.
And we all know this thing will have 98% of the games produced next-gen.
Maybe they'll be as aggressive as they've been with the 360 in its first years while still expanding on media and other services.
Who cares if the games are worth it?
And we all know this thing will have 98% of the games produced next-gen.
Maybe they'll be as aggressive as they've been with the 360 in its first years while still expanding on media and other services.
Who cares if the games are worth it?
Weird, cos the 360 has more exclusives than the PS3, more highly rated titles on Metacritic, and MS ranked higher than Sony in Metacritic's Game Publisher Rankings for 2010, 2011 and 2012 - the only 3 years they've published such rankings. Pretty good for a "cancer".
But why would MS give people media functionality in a games console?
Oh, that's why. It appears to be what people want.Eurogamer a year a go said:
That's why they're also making a $99 version of the Xbox 360. It'll do what those devices do, as well as playing games.theytookourjobz said:
Extra Sauce
Member
Or, you could wait until Microsoft actually reveals the console and the games in May. I know that sounds crazy and not as fun as a jumping to conclusions mat, but it seems like having actual information will be a great way to make an informed decision.
Fox Mulder
Member
Oh well, it was a good run.
I loved the first Xbox, and the 360 was on fire for most of this gen until MS stopped giving a shit.
This new console only sounds like the most unappealing thing every single day.
I loved the first Xbox, and the 360 was on fire for most of this gen until MS stopped giving a shit.
This new console only sounds like the most unappealing thing every single day.
Wickerbasket
Member
Definitely consider it, it's a great little box even to use in your bedroom or whatever. Someone on Neogaf recommended it to me in the first place.
Impeccable
Member
Bu-... nothing official official, right, like the other stuff?!?
Oh they give a shit alright, they just don't give a shit about people like us that post on GAF. Games are secondary to MS strategy now. It's all about "Content".
chickdigger802
Banned
curious about what the nextbox will offer over the current stuff entertainment wise that warrants the $300-500.
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
Indeed, lots of people can look forward to paying for a screen that says " Sorry, not available in your region".
Or, they can #DealWithIt
i.e. Buy something else.
BlazingDarkness
Member
Seconded
I'm all for them trying to push new things (presuming the gaming sector doesn't suffer for it) but all of these 'services' might be very US centric (I'm in the UK, I have no idea what a Roku or AppleTV is) considering those aforementioned things seem to be what MS is positioning the next XBOX against. It feels a bit like MS is cutting away a huge section of the worldwide market.
Uiki
Member
Even if you don't count the last 3 years, they still have a the weakest first party titles (they even manage to kill halo, who was the ka for 360 in the early years).
They need to show exclusives, lots of them.
Then we can talk about IPTV (and I live in italy, so no coverage..never used a single "optional" service on a console).
shinobi602
Member
Ever heard of Windows? Last time I checked they hold over 90% of the market over Apple...
Semantics, yes.
Are you saying they employ more people to work on TV related things instead of in games studios?
Well, this was the strategy right from the start of the first Xbox to be the center of the living room. Nothing surprising when they add new multimedia features.
Agent Ironside
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SuperSonic1305
Member
Get a 720 for $300 if you subscribe to this cable service contract.
we.are.the.armada
Member
So it'll be a cable box that competes with other cable box devices as well. Will my TV shows also have to be online-only? I can't record and watch later, offline?
Nice, is this a clip from one of their Windows 8 TV Service exclusive shows kind of like Netflix's House of Cards?
Nice, is this a clip from one of their Windows 8 TV Service exclusive shows kind of like Netflix's House of Cards?
Maybe I missed something, but what does Kinect have to do with this? Kinect is not the center of all evil sprouting from MS.
I like how you're joking but that might actually work, I would be happy to have my PS4/X720 replace my fios box altogether.
The console with the highest attach-rate for games and software sales isn't interested in software sales... well you got me hard to argue that one.
Microsoft will use stingray to get in non-gamers living rooms and the Xbox 720 to attach to the core.
grimshawish
Banned
Stingray makes sense now.
MS don't care about games side; their releasing a very cheap new 360 SKU alongside an expensive next generation console. Why? Because they will do anything to get their other entertainment services into living rooms.
Developers should jump off the Durango, MS want to use them (whilst taking them for advantage) to sell a product that is not to their benefit. They are not interested in creating the next generation console to sell software on - they only care about selling a mixture of digital products and advertising.
Whether the last gen system or the new gen system leads the way. MS don't care.
Stingray is likely an always online 360 with a lot of the other digital additions the Durango will be getting.
Durango? Its success means nout.
MS don't care about games side; their releasing a very cheap new 360 SKU alongside an expensive next generation console. Why? Because they will do anything to get their other entertainment services into living rooms.
Developers should jump off the Durango, MS want to use them (whilst taking them for advantage) to sell a product that is not to their benefit. They are not interested in creating the next generation console to sell software on - they only care about selling a mixture of digital products and advertising.
Whether the last gen system or the new gen system leads the way. MS don't care.
Stingray is likely an always online 360 with a lot of the other digital additions the Durango will be getting.
Durango? Its success means nout.
Delusibeta
Banned
Well, it looks like video games is an afterthought for Microsoft now. Gotta get that American streaming dollar...
CouldBeWorse
Member
Microsoft is (seemingly) abandoning the NeoGAF gamer to go after the other 99.9% of people in the world.
That doesn't thrill me as the 0.1% but it makes a ton of sense how they would arrive at this point and their path to success is a lot more clear than Sony's at this point. You can't build a whole platform around the enthusiasts.
That doesn't thrill me as the 0.1% but it makes a ton of sense how they would arrive at this point and their path to success is a lot more clear than Sony's at this point. You can't build a whole platform around the enthusiasts.
MightyHedgehog
Member
I don't get it. What's the problem? All this seems to mean is that the new system will not half-ass its media center functionality. Don't see why this means the game side of the platform will suffer.
BobbyColtrane
Member
This is going to be fantastic. MSFT wants to be my TV hub? You thought I was pissed when my 360 went up in smoke because of faulty hardware? Wait til I can't watch TV because you don't know how to make a console. Or better yet my old lady and kids can't watch TV because the Xbox blew up! That'll make me REAL popular in my home.
RROD 2: Electric Boogaloo coming to your living room in Q4!
RROD 2: Electric Boogaloo coming to your living room in Q4!
Your cable box works, but only so long as your internet works. (Yes I know they come through the same cable, but I have had TV without internet working and vice versa before). Intenet goes down, no DVR recording!
Ever heard of zune? windows phone? Surface?
Vinterbird
Member
Yes because Microsoft didn't learn anything the last time.
I don't get the infatuation that MS has with IPTV. Just keep growing out the existing movie/tv rental service, keep pushing for earlier/simultaneous releases. No need to build something redundant alongside that. There's already plenty of redundancy with the services offered - Netflix, Hulu, etc. It just gives them a black eye with core market that's taken xbox as far as it has so far and doesn't really seem to offer anything compelling to a wider market that other services aren't already starting to address, because they've taken too long to get IPTV off the ground.
Then they are going to get an amazing shock when people dont pay another $500 to do the same things they are doing now with the apps and shit. People bought a 360 for games, the media thing was a side effect, people wont by a $500 xbox to play fucking netflix on it when you can get cheaper things that do it now for free. I really hope ms hasnt misjudged the whole app thing but signs arnt good.
Nah. Your the one who may be confused. Gaming on the 360 has never fallen off from their stats. But of course they are going to note that besides gaming more and more people are consuming media entertainment on Xbox Live when they aren't gamIng.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Man some of you are grossly overreacting, it's both hilarious and painful.
I'm willing to bet 3/4 of GAF will still buy the system.
I'm willing to bet 3/4 of GAF will still buy the system.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
You mean the actual start of the conference and introduction to the platform? Odd since they spent a ton of time after that talking nothing but games
Based on what you've read so far, what sounds better, a PS4 or new xbox? My main point is that what we've heard from Sony is very gamer centric and they've come out and said this is a system for gamers. Quite the opposite from MSFT.