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Let's talk about a small scene from Raimi's Spider-Man 2...
- Thread starter SCULLIBUNDO
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That was honestly evident from jump
I dunno what annoyed me more, hearing Tobey called Emo or Garfield called Emo when neither were fuckin emo
So I guess you've never seen the Captain America movies then?
QuantumZebra
Member
Pretty much all of this.
I do think if you pushed everyone who has seen a few Spidey films for the "best" one, it is almost always going to be Spider-Man 2 (with SM1 or Homecoming following up).
I haven't seen Homecoming (Or Logan or WW... working on it) but I can almost guarantee beforehand that it won't top SM1 or 2 for me. SM2 is the best superhero film ever made alongside TDK.
Cap to Raimi Spider-Man was like "Superman Returns" to "Superman '78"
They both showed their heroes colors well, and didn't stray far from the character, but they can't top their precursors.
QuantumZebra
Member
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autumnleaf
Member
Like when he ditched that plane into the water to save Bucky
peanutbutterlatte
Member
I really don't see how people get away with these silly comments. The MCU films are getting progressively more diverse, and some are pretty deep.
Raimi's sentimental shtick got so tired by the third film.
Shit it got tired by the second
Subpar Spatula
Banned
MCU tends to not explore the themes. They'll say what they are and go, "Peter needs to stop being so ambitious by trying to be an Avenger" but then he is given the suit regardless of his bad choices and everything is OK because he did whatever he wanted. Just going from A to B isn't enough, you gotta actually explore what you preach or else it'll be deemed shallow and it rightfully has by many.
It's good strategy because you can get an average movie to be perceived as a high quality movie and you can market that easily.
Foxtastical
Member
God damn, while I love these movies, I haven't watched them in a bit. Just saw Homecoming, I liked it.
But this scene alone made me feel. Such wonderful films. So much heart.
Subpar Spatula
Banned
It's really good at hammering down why you should care for these characters and what exactly drives them.
LegendofDragoonLives
Member
Logan is made by FOX, but I completely agree with the other two sentences. Think I'm give SP2 another view tonight while I work.
No, they really aren't aside from WS.
This is what usually happens when you give your whole cast some character development, unlike Homecoming...
Discotheque
Banned
Both the mcu and dceu lack it big time. All of their movies. Although I appreciate that wonder woman at least tried and gave it's characters some room to breathe in between all the action and plot progression.
Logan done exposed them all lately. I hope the Batman movie takes some notes from that since the director has made 2 apes blockbusters with some strong emotional stakes involved.
They say it cuz it's an easy drive-by post to make.
Subpar Spatula
Banned
Naw. Folks just aren't super invested in a movie that they can criticize it.
Don't worry, the movie is still OK. It'll survive its shortcomings.
so edgy and cool.
Looking back and rewatching spider-man 2 i do appreciate it for what it was but i understand why homecoming did not want to emulate it.
I'd say just ignore these comments, the same people will write up a 12 page essay on why batman v superman is the all time best film. Some marvel movies can be deep and most can be a fun time at the movies i dont see why every film must be the dark knight or rosebud. Ghostbusters the original was not a deep thought provoking character film and its still regarded as an excellent fun awesome movie.
Correct!