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Zeyphersan
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(10-13-2017, 10:58 PM)

Originally Posted by Fox Mulder

patience is good advice really.

i waited forever in chat to ask about my DMA account not migrating to MA, and they said it was a generic error due to the high volume and it should go through eventually.

A lot of these issues should go away in a few days or whatever.

I know. Itís not even like Iím dying to watch a certain movie, everything is good save for two: Kingdom of Heaven and Girl With The Dragon Tattoo, neither of which Iím planning on watching anytime in the near future. So itís fine, I can wait.

Originally Posted by DOWN

Any comments on the movies saying 4K in the info pane on iTunes but not playing in 4K unless they were originally bought on iTunes?

I donít plan on hearing back from engineering for a time, they like to do their thing. Engineering will tell the senior advisor who I worked with who will relay it to me and back and forth if need be. If I donít get a response by Friday next week Iíll call in again and see if thereís an update, but donít hold your breath for a super speedy response
borghe
Loves the Greater Toronto Area
(10-13-2017, 10:59 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ashhong

Whereabouts should I see MA in iTunes? I'm on my account page and it has Apple ID Summary, iTunes in the Cloud, Purchase History, and Settings. Don't see MA anywhere, but it says my iTunes is linked in MA

edit: just saw Zeyphs post, I guess I'll wait it out

on device it should be right above Subscriptions and iTunes in the Cloud.

on PC/Mac is should be at the very bottom of Apple ID Summary. After computer authorizations on mine.
So it took about 2 hours yesterday for my VUDU library to sync over completely to MA. I have about 750 movies there, most of which transferred over and best I can tell the ones that didn't aren't part of the MA program.

This morning I bought Spider-Man in UHD. It shows UHD in VUDU and that it's MA eligible, but it's been about 6 hours now and it still hasn't synced to MA. I even tried reconnecting my accounts, but no luck.

I guess their services are probably getting slammed from all the new users at this point. Hopefully it syncs through soon.
DOWN
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(10-13-2017, 11:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by dallow_bg

The only real difference is the SD to HD which... I guess is neat for some of the really old crap I had redeemed years and years ago. Most were upgraded with subsequent codes from Bluray purchases already.

Expired UV codes work all the time. I've rarely come across any that don't.

It's all the same crap, a nice big digital locker. UV worked fine, I have nearly (checks again) 1,724 movies on VUDU. About 95% of that is UV with a big chunk coming from disc to digital conversion (which by the way, is sweet and not part of MA)

If finally all studios agree and join in, awesome. But UV wasn't struggling or anything.

UV wasnít always what it is now. Expired codes frequently didnít work in the first several years, it wouldnít add old purchases that werenít from UV codes, etc. DMA and MA are far better. Protected your old and new purchases and brought them to full HD. That was more influential over UV and was the gold standard for a locker. Thank god MA and Disney won.
dallow_bg
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(10-13-2017, 11:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by DOWN

UV wasnít always what it is now. Expired codes frequently didnít work in the first several years, it wouldnít add old purchases that werenít from UV codes, etc. DMA and MA are far better. Protected your old and new purchases and brought them to full HD. That was more influential over UV and was the gold standard for a locker. Thank god MA and Disney won.

Well that's how it's been for the last several years, no point comparing to how it started.
Been great since then.

Also, disc to digtal.... c'mon. You know that's good stuff.
Weevilone
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(10-13-2017, 11:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by jshackles

So it took about 2 hours yesterday for my VUDU library to sync over completely to MA. I have about 750 movies there, most of which transferred over and best I can tell the ones that didn't aren't part of the MA program.

This morning I bought Spider-Man in UHD. It shows UHD in VUDU and that it's MA eligible, but it's been about 6 hours now and it still hasn't synced to MA. I even tried reconnecting my accounts, but no luck.

I guess their services are probably getting slammed from all the new users at this point. Hopefully it syncs through soon.

I was thinking the same thing about the same title. Then I purchased a UV/MA compatible movie on sale at Vudu and it synced to MA in like 30 seconds. It's possible that movies porting from UV to Vudu to MA is slower than a title purchased straight as MA on Vudu though.

Originally Posted by Weevilone

I was thinking the same thing about the same title. Then I purchased a UV/MA compatible movie on sale at Vudu and it synced to MA in like 30 seconds. It's possible that movies porting from UV to Vudu to MA is slower than a title purchased straight as MA on Vudu though.

Hmmm could just be that movie then, good to know
dallow_bg
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(10-13-2017, 11:17 PM)
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Originally Posted by Weevilone

I was thinking the same thing about the same title. Then I purchased a UV/MA compatible movie on sale at Vudu and it synced to MA in like 30 seconds.

Yeah, I tested an iTunes code on a MA/UV movie, and it synced to MA in about the same time.
Then other users sharing my UV saw the movie within the hour.

Love how it propagates everywhere.

Just wish iTunes would fully sync...
Weevilone
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(10-13-2017, 11:20 PM)
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I've held onto Fox UHD codes (and some others) in hopes that someday they would sync UHD with UV.

Now that MA is a thing, how do you suppose that it's best to redeem those? I'm thinking redeem on iTunes if it's MA and UHD there. I wonder if that will produce UHD on iTunes, then port to MA (as UHD?), then subsequently to Vudu via MA (as HDX?) so it can be shared to my family members that do UV sharing.
rjinaz
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(10-13-2017, 11:24 PM)
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Just a reminder to those that may be new to the whole digital scene. VUDU has digital conversion of movies for $2. Many of these movies will transfer to itunes, Amazon, or wherever you connected to through MA.

It's usually about this time of the year that I add a dozen Horror movies to my collection. There are tons of movies D2D eligible.
dallow_bg
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(10-13-2017, 11:24 PM)
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Good point rjinaz!
Disc to digial should work for MA folks since many are UV/MA.
Just check to make sure it's both.

Originally Posted by Weevilone

I've held onto Fox UHD codes (and some others) in hopes that someday they would sync UHD with UV.

Now that MA is a thing, how do you suppose that it's best to redeem those? I'm thinking redeem on iTunes if it's MA and UHD there. I wonder if that will produce UHD on iTunes, then port to MA (as UHD?), then subsequently to Vudu via MA (as HDX?) so it can be shared to my family members that do UV sharing.

Check the movie on Vudu's site and see if it's MA, UV, or both.
For example: https://www.vudu.com/movies/#!conten...Alien-Covenant

It's both, so best would be redeem on iTunes so you get the REAL 4K version if it exists (or if it doesn't, it should upgrade whenever it is available).
You'll then get it on Vudu as HDX under MA, and then your family with get it as HDX under UV.
rjinaz
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(10-13-2017, 11:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by dallow_bg

Good point rjinaz!
Disc to digial should work for MA folks since many are UV/MA.
Just check to make sure it's both.



Check the movie on Vudu's site and see if it's MA, UV, or both.
For example: https://www.vudu.com/movies/#!conten...Alien-Covenant

It's both, so best would be redeem on iTunes so you get the REAL 4K version if it exists (or if it doesn't, it should upgrade whenever it is available).
You'll then get it on Vudu as HDX under MA, and then your family with get it as HDX under UV.

It's actually pretty cool, it essentially makes D2D available for all. I'm surprised there wasn't more of a fuss about it from Disney. All the money goes to VUDU. Makes me wonder if they'll stop the program or maybe the other places will get their own version of D2D.
J_Viper
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(10-13-2017, 11:37 PM)
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Apologies if this has been asked already, but would Fandango Now purchases be eligible for MA?

They have solid deal going on for a Friday the 13th bundle.

I don't usually buy digital films, but seeing as how that F13 box set is out of print, this is the only way to own these
dallow_bg
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(10-13-2017, 11:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by J_Viper

Apologies if this has been asked already, but would Fandango Now purchases be eligible for MA?

They have solid deal going on for a Friday the 13th bundle.

I don't usually buy digital films, but seeing as how that F13 box set is out of print, this is the only way to own these

Are the movies UV and MA?
Check their status on Vudu.com
Weevilone
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(10-13-2017, 11:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by dallow_bg

Are the movies UV and MA?
Check their status on Vudu.com

The ones I checked are UV only.

Edit: If you buy it anyways, Ebates gives 13% cash back from Fandango.
Ashhong
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(10-13-2017, 11:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by borghe

on device it should be right above Subscriptions and iTunes in the Cloud.

on PC/Mac is should be at the very bottom of Apple ID Summary. After computer authorizations on mine.

Nope, ends with authorizations for me. Can't unlink it from MA because it says 180 days or something before you can relink it. So I guess my only choice is to wait?

Still can't migrate my DMA either..
J_Viper
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(10-13-2017, 11:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by dallow_bg

Are the movies UV and MA?
Check their status on Vudu.com

Originally Posted by Weevilone

The ones I checked are UV only.

Edit: If you buy it anyways, Ebates gives 13% cash back from Fandango.

Thanks!
Well speak of the devil, Spider-Man just transferred over (although it's still not showing up on my "My Movies" list). I guess I just had to complain about it on GAF to make it happen.
DaBargainHunta
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(10-14-2017, 12:12 AM)
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The all-time Nintendo classic The Wizard is on AIV for $5. It's UV/MA-compatible and ported instantly for me to VUDU and MA.

It's been that price on VUDU before, but if you missed it, here it is again...

https://smile.amazon.com/Wizard-Luke...dp/B002DJPP74/

The Power Glove - it's so BAD!
broncobuster
Banned
(10-14-2017, 12:17 AM)
I donít fully understand all this as I havenít messed with other services beyond iTunes. Linking Vudu, which I didnít know I had, and iTunes to this gave me a bunch of UV movies so thatís cool.

Donít think Iíve ever bought an Amazon or Google movie, but in theory theyíd transfer over to iTunes if bought on sale, right?

Also neat that a number of these movies show up as 4K.
Stinkles
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(10-14-2017, 12:18 AM)
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Originally Posted by jshackles

So it took about 2 hours yesterday for my VUDU library to sync over completely to MA. I have about 750 movies there, most of which transferred over and best I can tell the ones that didn't aren't part of the MA program.

This morning I bought Spider-Man in UHD. It shows UHD in VUDU and that it's MA eligible, but it's been about 6 hours now and it still hasn't synced to MA. I even tried reconnecting my accounts, but no luck.

I guess their services are probably getting slammed from all the new users at this point. Hopefully it syncs through soon.

Jaysus
Nipo
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(10-14-2017, 12:21 AM)

Originally Posted by J_Viper

Apologies if this has been asked already, but would Fandango Now purchases be eligible for MA?

They have solid deal going on for a Friday the 13th bundle.

I don't usually buy digital films, but seeing as how that F13 box set is out of print, this is the only way to own these

If the movie is UV compatible on fandango it will transfer to Vudu. Once it transfer to Vudu it will be in movies anywhere*

Unless it is a lions gate/paramount film
Stinkles
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(10-14-2017, 12:23 AM)
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Is Vudu on Xbox 4k yet?


Edit yep my blade runner shows as uhd
Nipo
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(10-14-2017, 12:25 AM)

Originally Posted by Stinkles

Is Vudu on Xbox 4k yet?

Vudu only supports dolbyvision HDR right now so even if it were on xbox you wouldn't be getting HDR and are better served with an HDR10 service. .
jrush64
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(10-14-2017, 12:27 AM)
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This is an odd question. If I have an SD movie UV on vudu. Will it turn to HD on this movies anywhere?

Also, is anyone having issues with their Batman v Superman not showing Ultimate Edition.
Nordic4tKnight
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(10-14-2017, 12:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by Nipo

Vudu only supports dolbyvision HDR right now so even if it were on xbox you wouldn't be getting HDR and are better served with an HDR10 service. .

Any World when VUDU will support HDR10? Really frustrating that they donít.
Stinkles
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(10-14-2017, 12:27 AM)
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Originally Posted by Nipo

Vudu only supports dolbyvision HDR right now so even if it were on xbox you wouldn't be getting HDR and are better served with an HDR10 service. .

I just want easy access. If I'm having movie night or showing off the setup I'll use the disc
dallow_bg
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(10-14-2017, 12:28 AM)
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Originally Posted by Stinkles

I just want easy access. If I'm having movie night or showing off the setup I'll use the disc

No TV app?
Would be easier.

It (XBX) should be 4K though.
SaintR
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(10-14-2017, 12:29 AM)
Everything has synced except my iTunes stil, not even showing up on my iTunes account as linked just on the MA site. Calling Movies Anywhere gives me either an eternal hold but itís better than iTunes support who hasnít gotten back to me yet. Iím thinking I might just leave this for a week and come back to this and see if itís still with issues. Maybe by then the call center will be better at least.

Originally Posted by Stinkles

Jaysus

VUDU has been my go-to digital movie locker for a few years now, mostly due to D2D and the ability to easily redeem UV codes from blu rays. They also usually run some pretty good special promotions and bundles, and every once in a while they do crazy credit promotions (like a few of my friends at work have given me their codes from movies and their TMobile credits).

I guess 750 works out to about a movie a day though, which admittedly is pretty crazy. But not nearly as crazy as my Steam account.
Hex
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(10-14-2017, 12:37 AM)
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My only real complaint is that I can not find a sort movies by: type function for my movies.
J_Viper
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(10-14-2017, 12:40 AM)
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Originally Posted by Nipo

If the movie is UV compatible on fandango it will transfer to Vudu. Once it transfer to Vudu it will be in movies anywhere*

Unless it is a lions gate/paramount film

Yeah F13 is Paramount, so it won't work with MA

Thanks for the rundown though
broncobuster
Banned
(10-14-2017, 12:55 AM)
Hmm, I checked the Vudu app on my LG TV and it's not great compared with Amazon's. If I connect my Amazon account, will I also get my UHD movies there?
Crimson_Gold
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(10-14-2017, 12:57 AM)
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Originally Posted by broncobuster

Hmm, I checked the Vudu app on my LG TV and it's not great compared with Amazon's. If I connect my Amazon account, will I also get my UHD movies there?

Not currently transferring to Amazon as uhd. I have spiderman: homecoming in uhd on Vudu. Only hd on Amazon. It is uhd on Google though...
Mr. Wonderful
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(10-14-2017, 01:00 AM)
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Originally Posted by borghe

it's not. If you play it on an Apple TV 4K, the info banner (while playing) will say HD Dolby Vision, and the developer hud will report Dolby Vision color space, 2238x938 file resolution (something like that), and a peak bitrate of ~15Mb and an average bitrate of ~9Mb.

A full UHD movie on Apple TV 4K reports at 3840x1600 (2.35:1 movies), and a peak bitrate of ~30Mb with an average bitrate of usually ~20-24Mb.

Assuming this is h.265... Why do some people seem disappointed?

Above 1080p resolution, theoretically around Blu-ray quality, and HDR on a movie that probably wasn't even finished in 4K? Sounds great to me.

Does it not look as good in real world viewing?
Zulithe
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(10-14-2017, 01:04 AM)
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Originally Posted by DaBargainHunta

The all-time Nintendo classic The Wizard is on AIV for $5. It's UV/MA-compatible and ported instantly for me to VUDU and MA.

It's been that price on VUDU before, but if you missed it, here it is again...

https://smile.amazon.com/Wizard-Luke...dp/B002DJPP74/

The Power Glove - it's so BAD!

Cool, picked it up. Been years since I've seen it from start to finish. Ported instantly for me as well.

Meanwhile, Spider-Man homecoming hasn't ported to anything beyond vudu (from fandango now) I'm patient, just the inconsistency of how fast things port over is irritating.
Nipo
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(10-14-2017, 01:06 AM)

Originally Posted by J_Viper

Yeah F13 is Paramount, so it won't work with MA

Thanks for the rundown though

Yea, then you'll get it in Vudu but not Amazon/Itunes/google. There is a possibility paramount will join MA but watching F13 on a random tuesday is prob less fun.
DOWN
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(10-14-2017, 01:07 AM)
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Originally Posted by Mr. Wonderful

Assuming this is h.265... Why do some people seem disappointed?

Above 1080p resolution, theoretically around Blu-ray quality, and HDR on a movie that probably wasn't even finished in 4K? Sounds great to me.

Does it not look as good in real world viewing?

Becuase if a 4K version is available and can be bought on iTunes itís annoying that your purchase doesnít get the iTunes auto upgrade
Mr. Wonderful
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(10-14-2017, 01:16 AM)
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Originally Posted by DOWN

Becuase if a 4K version is available and can be bought on iTunes it’s annoying that your purchase doesn’t get the iTunes auto upgrade

Sure but how many of those are actually 4K and not a 1080p upscale, like most UHD Blu-rays are? What matters is how the actual image quality compares...
dallow_bg
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(10-14-2017, 01:18 AM)
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Originally Posted by Mr. Wonderful

Sure but how many of those are actually 4K and not a 1080p upscale, like most UHD Blu-rays are? What matters is how the actual image quality compares...

Sure, and those that arenít?
Itís just seems silly not to go ahead and give the full 4K version rather than this odd middlestep.
borghe
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(10-14-2017, 01:53 AM)
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Originally Posted by Mr. Wonderful

Assuming this is h.265... Why do some people seem disappointed?

Above 1080p resolution, theoretically around Blu-ray quality, and HDR on a movie that probably wasn't even finished in 4K? Sounds great to me.

Does it not look as good in real world viewing?

H.265 is HEVC? If so yeah, itís HEVC.

Itís actually pretty good, especially considering youíre watching it for a free (presumably?) redemption. Any codes I have redeemed right now like this I canít even see myself paying to upgrade to full 4K. All of them are movies I previously redeemed as SD anyway, so I get HD+ for like 7-9 year old SD digital copy redemptions? Yes please!!!

Originally Posted by DOWN

Becuase if a 4K version is available and can be bought on iTunes itís annoying that your purchase doesnít get the iTunes auto upgrade

I actually completely disagree. Apple shocked everyone by saying HD and 4K were the same purchase, and a month later there still isnít a single rumbling that anyone is going to follow suit. If the price of that is that purchases FROM OTHER RETAILERS donít get converted.... itís like getting a free car and then complaining that you got it with only a half full tank. If you want 4K on Apple, buy it in Apple. If you are shopping around for better HD prices on other retailers, you get HD. Doesnít at all seem unreasonable.

You get the lesser video because you paid HD prices and not to them. If you want 4K for HD prices you have to buy it from them.
Ninhead
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(10-14-2017, 01:53 AM)
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Is it strange that all my iTunes copies are showing up on Amazon, but my Amazon (mainly Baby Driver and Blade Runner) and Vudu aren't showing up in iTunes?
soldierblue
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(10-14-2017, 02:00 AM)
My iTunes account now shows my connection to MA as pending. Still no option to remove, but progress?
borghe
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(10-14-2017, 02:15 AM)
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Ok I bought Pacific Rim UHD on Vudu. Will wait for it to sync to iTunes to see if I get 4K or not.
TAJ
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(10-14-2017, 02:20 AM)
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My DMA stuff and my Amazon stuff showed up in MA. None of my UV and/or Vudu stuff did.
Is this normal?

Also, my more recent DMA movies like Dr. Strange and Guardians 2 weren't showing up in Vudu (but all the rest were) until I linked DMA and MA. Then they did and those two started showing up in My Movies in Vudu. But if I went to play them it said I didn't own them at any resolution, which is bizarre and something I've never seen before. Today it shows that I own them up to 1080p. (I bought Guardians 2 in physical UHD.)
jrush64
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(10-14-2017, 02:21 AM)
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How do I know if my iTunes movies are 4k? Will it show 4k on the menu. None of Vudu 4k movies are showing 4k on iTunes.
DOWN
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(10-14-2017, 02:30 AM)
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Originally Posted by jrush64

How do I know if my iTunes movies are 4k? Will it show 4k on the menu. None of Vudu 4k movies are showing 4k on iTunes.

Right now, regardless of what a movie says it is on iTunes under its info, it will only play in 4K if you either purchased or redeemed the movie on iTunes originally. So far it doesnít seem anything transfers to iTunes AND actually plays in 4K, despite many movies that people had in 4K or HD showing up in iTunes with the 4K label on it.
Tragicomedy
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(10-14-2017, 02:36 AM)
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Originally Posted by soldierblue

My iTunes account now shows my connection to MA as pending. Still no option to remove, but progress?

Same. Progress...maybe?
borghe
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(10-14-2017, 02:37 AM)
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Hmm. Pacific Rim synced right away to Google. Still nothing in iTunes though. Wonder if Iím screwed. Will continue to wait.
Roberto Duran
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(10-14-2017, 02:39 AM)
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Originally Posted by DaBargainHunta

The all-time Nintendo classic The Wizard is on AIV for $5. It's UV/MA-compatible and ported instantly for me to VUDU and MA.

It's been that price on VUDU before, but if you missed it, here it is again...

https://smile.amazon.com/Wizard-Luke...dp/B002DJPP74/

The Power Glove - it's so BAD!

Nice! Copped this also.

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