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Trump: Trans Soldiers now barred from the military entirely
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RustyNails
Member
A cost of a single F-35 will pay for the gender surgeries of any veteran for 100 years.
When you hear a conservative talking about "bootstraps" in any way shape or form, its a dog whistle.
When you hear a conservative talking about "bootstraps" in any way shape or form, its a dog whistle.
By the way, since you're surprised by this move, you realize that the house tried to pass a similar bill to this last week, right? This isn't just Trump.
Epsilon-delta
Banned
Pretty damn easy. I'll give you just one:
The Post-9/11 GI Bill.
I have no students loans, which puts in a better position in life than most college graduates.
People's rights are not distractions
metalslimer
Member
It's not supposed to be fucking enjoyable. This is the problem with many of you republicans. Because none of the things you are discussing personally effects you as you are likely a straight white male, you like to claim that it's just politics. Politics isn't just some random amusement for minorities to discuss.
JonnyDBrit
Member
Gonna be real interesting to see how he tries to spin this. I expect the word 'love' to be thrown about a lot.
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
"Tremendous medical costs"
Friendly debates should be limited to stuff like Marvel vs. DC.
"Should trans people have the same rights as everyone else" is not a topic of debate.
AlimNassor
Banned
Theres no rhyme or reason other then to spite democrats.
Why are you even on this board? Why do we allow Republicans on this board? Boggles my mind.
Why are you even on this board? Why do we allow Republicans on this board? Boggles my mind.
so uh
you know your entire paycheck and housing while in the military was paid by the taxpayer right
Dragon Puncher
Member
I can never be said enough: Fuck Trump and everything he stands for. He seems like he's pandering even more to his insane base than usual though. That's probably what you do, when everybody in your own party hates you.
Goldenroad
Member
I'd just add this as another checkmark under the "definitely treason" column. Weakening the US military and shitting on Trans veterans and soldiers should definitely count towards it. I can guarantee you next thing Vlad's going to tell him to do is to also ban all male and female soldiers from the US military as well. And Trump will continue to do exactly as instructed.
The Military is our welfare system. Most people see it as a way to make money and go through tons of shit to make a decent living.
We literally have not had to really be at a true war in decades and most wars that we have been in post WWII has been more steeped in personal interest than humanitarian or issues of america being attacked which doesnt justify how large the military is.
No-one is intolerant of 'other ideas' in general
But when these 'other ideas' are predicated on the assertion that (some minority) is inherently (more criminal/a hindrance/dangerous/workshy/lazy/a sexual predator/other), then you sure as hell can expect people to push back. And they're not pushing back on the idea, they're pushing back on that assertion.
The worse thing that happen over the last 2 years is allowing folks to frame bigotry as "opinions"?
Folks' humanity are not up for debate
That's not what your Commander-in-Chief is ordering, bruh.
Dark Cloud
Member
Yeah this guy in my shop complains about how money goes towards their surgery. He keeps telling me he's not republican or a trump supporter, but he's always defending trump.
Not everything is up to debate, somethings are black and white. If there was no black and white, there would be no gray. My human rights and humanity is not up to fucking debate! This isn't politics, this is basic human decency.
Damn I'm a sucker for going for covered education. Well golly gee thanks for informing me.
RustyNails
Member
CNN is reporting that Pentagon had no idea about the ban. Trump was referring to his Army Soldiers action figures.
In reality, its probably a political move designed to shore up a typical Republican base.
FinaruDensetsu
Member
This is fucked up.
Who wants to serve under this disgrace of a president anyway?
Who wants to serve under this disgrace of a president anyway?
I didn't attempt to offer one, I don't have one as I said because I don't agree with this decision. My response was in regards to people expecting some sort of Republican response to ANY of the political threads around here lately.
Hours Left
Member
Not to be a broken record, but anyone who thought Trump or his cabinet would display an sort of genuine concern for the lives/rights of LGBT individuals, for even a millisecond, is an absolute moron.
Can he drop dead ? I'm sure all that KFC could be put to good use and give him a heart attack ?
And I don't mean this sarcastically, I'm not religious, I don't care, I want him to drop dead.
He is an insult to humanity, I feel like all the steps forwards we made in the past years are being undone with this piece of shit in power.
Makes me a bit depressed not gonna lie. Because MILLIONS OF PEOPLE follow this clown.
And I don't mean this sarcastically, I'm not religious, I don't care, I want him to drop dead.
He is an insult to humanity, I feel like all the steps forwards we made in the past years are being undone with this piece of shit in power.
Makes me a bit depressed not gonna lie. Because MILLIONS OF PEOPLE follow this clown.
backbreaker65
Banned
Wow, you're so insightful. I bet your next obvious statement will be 1 + 1 = 2. I worked for that check and paid taxes on the monies received.
I'm stopping right here, the Mods around these parts and the gaming side, tend to use the ban on me because I don't fall in line so, I'm out.
Psychoward
Banned
Please tell me that expands to show the absolute insane overall defense budget."Tremendous medical costs"
Theres no possible way to defend this.
"Tremendous medical costs"
So 3 weekends in Mar-a-lago.
Yeah, I would say at least half of those that join do so for the benefits and insurance
metalslimer
Member
The vast majority of your party still supports Trump. And if he was so horrifying they wouldn't blindly follow him to the edge
People want a republican response because things have gotten so out of hand and the republicans have become spineless cowards
This is awful, of course, but this is pure pandering to Trump's evangelical base, right? I mean, dude went out of his way to target a very tiny minority of the population out of pure fucking spite. The Bible thumpers who use the book to bludgeon groups of people that they hate, this is for them. A bit of a "thank you for electing me".
I'm having a hard time processing current events these days. Our president takes to Twitter to announce policy that targets brave but vulnerable Americans directly, and his followers cheer. What is wrong with us as a nation?
I'm having a hard time processing current events these days. Our president takes to Twitter to announce policy that targets brave but vulnerable Americans directly, and his followers cheer. What is wrong with us as a nation?
Epsilon-delta
Banned
From a devildoc to a devildog, you make no sense.
The military has always been about socialized healthcare.
No one bats an eye when the pentagon spends billions on the F-22 or the F-35.
I'm sure it's because you don't fall in line, lol.
You didn't answer my question. What exactly is your policy stance here? You don't think the military should pay for any surgery?
BronsonLee
Member
Nah keep goin'
Also how would you know about being banned, you're a Junior, junior bans are perm o.o
Let's just be clear about this: there is no reasonable justification for this ban. No, it's not about money. No, it's not about healthcare. No, it's not about military readiness. Every defense for this ban is rooted in the same arguments against allowing women to serve in the military or people of color. It's pure bigotry and ignorance.
Oh it better. It's a clear violation of the 14th amendment.
Psychoward
Banned
I feel sorry for all the citizens who wasted time thanking you for your service.
RustyNails
Member
Fucking Reddit. Half the posts on there defending the decision on the front page... fucking alt right assholes thinking that they are being reasonable. This has absolutely nothing to do with costs or making anything more efficient. This is outright bigotry and political pandering.
Don't you long for the days when two white men could get on TV and calmly discuss/laugh about the right way to handle the growing homosexual problem the right way "minorities" can be allowed into the workforce without upsetting good upstanding Americans?
Carpe Carnim
Member
I want to know which of this poster's rights we get to have a debate on keeping. Maybe he will grace us with his answer, if it's not too much trouble for this particular snowflake.