CassidyIzABeast
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RPCS3 Is A New PS3 Emulator, Still In Early Stage, Boots Commercial Game
- Thread starter Poetic.Injustice
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falconxcrunner09
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http://talesofvesperia.net/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnRfRH7dPeU
Its apparently almost done based on the progress bar on the right of the web page.
I did know it was around before this, I just thought it was going to take longer for a game to boot. Didn't mean to diminish any other achievements with the project.
EightBitNate
Member
Is this the GTAV PC announcement?
ambientmystic
Member
As a huge proponent of emulation and currently neck deep in PPSSPP as a tester, this is excellent stuff to me.
As for the minimum requirements to run PS3 games at fullspeed though... That CELL would probably need an octacore i7 at the very minimum to emulate, 1 core for the PPE, and 7 for the SPEs.
The RSX 7800GTX analogue in the PS3 would probably take a lot GPU power to emulate adequately though, probably a TITAN?
As for the minimum requirements to run PS3 games at fullspeed though... That CELL would probably need an octacore i7 at the very minimum to emulate, 1 core for the PPE, and 7 for the SPEs.
The RSX 7800GTX analogue in the PS3 would probably take a lot GPU power to emulate adequately though, probably a TITAN?
Phatosaurus
Member
Sweet. Can't wait to replay Demon's Souls in 12K when I'm 40.
gigantor21
Member
I doubt specs will be that big of an issue once it can actually run most games well, though.
Poetic.Injustice
Member
Here's a post by one of the programmers.
http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1373273&p=44155378&viewfull=1#post44155378
http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1373273&p=44155378&viewfull=1#post44155378
jediyoshi
Member
I was under the understanding that booting commercial games was a bigger milestone. I'd think people not paying attention after it would be just as bad.
Skyfireblaze
Member
Wow that's seriously amazing work, props to everyone involved! 
The thought of playing Neptunia, Atelier Ayesha and all my other JRPGs in 1080p+... I envy my future self!
And that reminds me I sometimes have to get a 2nd PS3 with CFW so I can atleast Remote Play them for now
The thought of playing Neptunia, Atelier Ayesha and all my other JRPGs in 1080p+... I envy my future self! And that reminds me I sometimes have to get a 2nd PS3 with CFW so I can atleast Remote Play them for now
R10Neymarfan
Member
Only if Moore's Law still is functioning by then. Seems like it's dying out right now
Black Door
Banned
With Estelle voicing Yuri's arte lines and the characters fighting to prevent the Archipelago from destroying the world
Same, this is surprising.
That link has a new video of the same game running much better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kER9cdPzB3w
Really impressive for just trying the game out of the blue and then 8 hours of fixes.
Poetic.Injustice
Member
Yeah the game actually seems a lot more playable now! Added to OP.
Also reading reports that they managed to get the Disgaea 3 opening videos to load.
As a collector who never uses emulators, something about people saying things like this just bugs me on principle :\. No harm intended to anyone. This is still really neat and makes me happy for game preservation-related purposes.
Sweet! Just in time before my PS3 broke from lack of use and dust 20 years later!
Snarky aside, good job really. I mean, it's a frikkin Cell we talking about here.
Snarky aside, good job really. I mean, it's a frikkin Cell we talking about here.
I think that particular post just (half) joking by the 2020 mention at the end.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Crazy that they have a ps3 game running before an OG XBox game. Was that system coded to the metal or what?
Whoa.
Documentation problems abound. It's hard to emulate it at a low level because there's no exhaustive writeup of all the CPU and GPU functions that's readily available to work with. The next approach would be to write more of an interpreter that turns Xbox SDK instructions into ones Windows can understand, but efforts on that front have stalled out for other reasons.
Documentation problems abound. It's hard to emulate it at a low level because there's no exhaustive writeup of all the CPU and GPU functions that's readily available to work with. The next approach would be to write more of an interpreter that turns Xbox SDK instructions into ones Windows can understand, but efforts on that front have stalled out for other reasons.
Exclusive for Xbox One XD
To Far Away Times
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How well is the PS3 documented? If I recall correctly, the Wii is really well emulated because the documentation for it was leaked, and I think something pretty similar happened for at least parts of the PS2.
wonderdung
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IIRC PS2 hardware documentation came in a PDF with the PS2 linux kits.
I don't think there's any public PS3 documentation but there may have been some parts of the SDK leaked or something.
Jawmuncher
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I live in a world where PS3 and 360 emulation will probably happen before OG Xbox Emulation. Something is seriously wrong with that.
A lot might be a bit generous IMO, personally I think there's a only a handful of games that never got ported and are still something you'd actually want to play.
I think that's a big part of why the emulation scene never focused that much on it. (besides the technical challenges of course)
KojiKnight
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Hackers have pretty much torn the PS3 down completely hardware and software wise. Wii was easily emulated because the majority of the hardware is the same as the gamecube, Dolphin already existed at the time the Wii came out... it was just learning the ins and outs of the new bits (mostly starlet, BT modules, etc).
PS2 has NEVER had good documentation and lots of the documentation that DID exist was either poor or inaccurate. Nearly all of it was reverse engineered by some crazy experienced people on the PCSX2 team (most of whom have now moved on to other things).
That said on the PS3 front, just because you know a large part of the ins and outs, doesn't mean it's suddenly easier to program for, it's just stuff to get your start from. I assume a lot of what the people who work on RPCS3 do is creating sample software, run it on the PS3, and then use the results to write code for the emu. A lot of educated trial and error.
But they're reaaally slow and I'd need a PS3 with CFW 3.55 to run the game with the patch. Considering my PS3 is the Super Slim model, I'm fucked. Still it's better than stealing a computer to the NASA to run the emulator
AntiFacebook
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Is it open source?
The Dear Leader
Banned
What if like, they took the 360 Xbox emulator and emulated it for PC man. Emulate an emulator.
you're also in a world where potentially XBox one and PS4 emulation happens before all of them (entirely made up guesswork but the architectures do seem much more straightforward and PC-like than PS3)
Poetic.Injustice
Member
Isn't the technical challenge usually what's drawing hackers and programmers in? Basic interest in the topic provided, of course?
Seems to me that simply no one has even a remote interest in emulating the OG XBOX at this point.
VivaciousSoul
Member
So obviously commercial games won't work but suppose say I wanted to see them fail to work, could I just drop a disc in the drive?
Starwolf_UK
Member
Now this is a surprise but I can't help but be reminded of early N64 emulators. IIRC one of the first only ran two games; Mario 64 and Zelda OOT but IIRC such low compatability meant they could run at reasonable speed.
Why was this video taken down? Weird.
UltraHLE was mindblowing back in the day. Mario 64 and OoT were completely playable on a Pentium II 400.
The takedown notice is because a very skeptic someone probably reported it. Sad thing that happens sometimes with stuff like this due to the huge amount of fake emulators popping up... this one's legit tho. : /