Circle is for stealth attacks.
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Circle is for stealth attacks.
Stabby McSter
Member
Well, I assumed it was forward, since a parry is basically a counter-attack. The parrying system took me a couple minutes to get used to, though. Other than that, I'm enjoying the game.
Rickenslacker
Banned
Welp, that explains why I never saw its purpose.
All the joy and excitement I felt about the demo and cutting anything quickly faded away when it came to parrying on command. I parried 100% of the time when it came to the normal enemies and Gekko's but when the wolf boss came I did it maybe 25% of the time and not even on command. It was incredibly frustrating to go from on top of the world to getting mad over the parrying mechanic.
Net_Wrecker
Member
The boss is almost entirely dedicated to teaching the player through trial by fire about parries. The button combo is on the screen the entire time, and you get beat DOWN trying anything else. They're teaching through gameplay, isn't that what people want?
Not having a movelist is one thing, but this whole demo is is a blade mode and parry tutorial.
I still think there should be a dedicated button for dodge like double tap RT, A + X is inconsistent.
Also not 100% on parry being tied in with attack. Sometimes it comes off and other times it doesn't.
Anyone else noticed you can cut the chandelier in the first house you enter? Pretty cool.
Also not 100% on parry being tied in with attack. Sometimes it comes off and other times it doesn't.
Anyone else noticed you can cut the chandelier in the first house you enter? Pretty cool.
I accidentally cut the stairs in the beginning and found no other way to get up at a quick glance. Had to restart.
It wouldn't have been the first time I'd play a game with completely wack controls. I don't assume anything.
It wouldn't have been the first time I'd play a game with completely wack controls. I don't assume anything.
fair point, i'll give it another shot.
but on screen text in the middle of a fight is a really bad way of communicating things to a new player. i was a little preoccupied in trying to dodge attacks and time my own strikes inbetween his button mashing. also, there seems to be a lot of useless shit in the UI, making it easy to ignore
me too. i laughed.
Rickenslacker
Banned
Ninja run.
bone_and_sinew
breaking down barriers in gratuitous nudity
Logic dictates that if you're so supposed to defend using a stick, point the stick in the direction of the attack. I struggled for about 30 seconds until I realised it's similar to Bayonetta's optional parrying and picked it up almost immediately.
I only use it if I'm low on health or want a stylish finish on the last enemy remaining.
bodyboarder
Member
Well after only playing mgs1/2 this game was not what I was expecting. Still enjoyed the demo though.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Also isn't parry exactly the same as in Bayonetta?
Edit: Beaten lol
Edit: Beaten lol
As others have said you can just Ninja run up the wall.
I made the same mistake. Also resolved it with Ninja Run (was one of those, "Aw crap, what do I...oh yeah, that" moments when it happened).
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Yeah, I don't bother with the stairs at all since it's slower.
giancarlo123x
Banned
What secrets are in the demo besides the C. Box and the cat that can dodge everything?
Net_Wrecker
Member
I can understand that. It just seems obvious to me to exhaust all options if you're struggling, one of those options being looking at everything on the HUD, where one of the indicators is a "Parry = blah blah blah" command against an enemy that gives clear warning signals before each attack. Maybe I'm just coming from a different perspective having used a similar mechanic in Bayonetta already.
But yeah, give it another shot. It's really simple once you figure it out.
Captain_Spanky
Member
So I'm in the middle of a fairly heavy two weeks work wise, and I got home fairly late tonight. I stayed up late just to download the demo.
HOLY FUCK WAS IT WORTH IT
Growing up through my late school/college years my favorite games were the MGS series and DMC/character action games. To have an effective merger of both is like a dream come true in game terms. This is my perfect project. I know a lot of people shit on MGS4 but the chance to revisit the world is a welcome one and Platinum's action pedigree does not need mentioning. The game could do with a better tutorial but by the time I got to the dog AI boss I was starting to get it. That cutscene, with the music build up, then the ensuing fight and parrying suddenly clicking meant that by the time I was done I was high as a fucking kite and my heart was yammering like a fucking jackhammer.
The boss trailer hyped me. The demo destroyed me.
HOLY FUCK WAS IT WORTH IT
Growing up through my late school/college years my favorite games were the MGS series and DMC/character action games. To have an effective merger of both is like a dream come true in game terms. This is my perfect project. I know a lot of people shit on MGS4 but the chance to revisit the world is a welcome one and Platinum's action pedigree does not need mentioning. The game could do with a better tutorial but by the time I got to the dog AI boss I was starting to get it. That cutscene, with the music build up, then the ensuing fight and parrying suddenly clicking meant that by the time I was done I was high as a fucking kite and my heart was yammering like a fucking jackhammer.
The boss trailer hyped me. The demo destroyed me.
Thought the same thing, "Well... this is game breaking isn't it?" Nope, ninja run up that shit. Ledges for a reason.
Kind of late. I only realized such a move existed now that I've already finished the demo and watching how the game is supposed to actually be played.
Majukun
Member
i don't know if it's true,but someone said that if you cut all the melons in the vr session,a big one will drop from the ceiling
call_kotaku
Member
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwiHUOYs-yU
A blade mode cancel combo that one of the users on SRK made. Looks so weeeeeeeird.
A blade mode cancel combo that one of the users on SRK made. Looks so weeeeeeeird.
thesolidshark
Member
How to be a BADASS in Rising Demo
http://youtu.be/xYGIRVeVY24?t=1m7s <---MGSR TUTORIAL on Moveset
(In Japanese, but you can figure out which buttons represent the moves)
http://youtu.be/IabHyQJA9-w <- Konami tutorial
Quoted for this page.
Yeah, unfortunately, for those who haven't kept up with the videos Konami has been releasing, playing through this can feel really odd as it doesn't explain what to do. Hopefully this game won't get the full RE6 treatment and have no manual, or a manual that won't explain the basics.
Most of how I got through the demo the first time was seeing how others successfully played it. It's genius work once it's all applied correctly, and in how there's more than one way to tackle nearly everything.
One other thing I'll say in terms of tutorials is this:
-Whenever you finish an area, before the scoring system comes up, pause and restart from the last checkpoint; it's the best way to get practice in. The first battle in the demo where you face the three guys coming out of stealth is the best time to practice the parrying and all the in-game battles. Experiment here. You can spam, try out the combos, use Blade Mode to cut different body parts (go for the leg(s)). This is especially useful if you're not satisfied with how you felt you did.
-For those worried about the Gekkos and parrying, most attacks they have usually have a longer start-up than the cyborg attacks.
-For those still having parrying problems, use X + Square + direction to do the evasion. It's more of a sliding counter-attack, but it does evade things pretty well.
I very much disagree with the guys saying Blade Mode should've been taken out of after Platinum took over; even before you master using the button/analog (keep practicing with the analog; it's worth mastering, and you also don't have to shift the stick competely from one end to the other to get the cut), it's interaction with the environment is really fun, and hopefully will yield some cool out of reach things, like the box you get in VR after cutting the pillar. Honestly it's not something you're guaranteed to get on the first, maybe even the second playthrough. If you really want to practice Blade Mode, go into VR and practice with those cardboard enemies; their window for exact strikes is a lot small than the enemies in the real battle.
Just like Bayonetta, the real pleasure in this game came from investing in experimentation and mastery.
look at that camera jesuschrist
it's neat that his exploiting blade mode to cancel out the stupid long recovery of some moves
Ouuuu this is getting interesting. Never even thought of Blade Mode cancels.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
Played for another 45 minutes or so and I'm getting good. Practiced parry to the point that I no longer accidentally hit L1 to block. For people who want to practice parrying (and whatever else), just get to the boss, fight him, and when you beat him just pause and restart checkpoint to fight him again.
I am starting to agree with people who criticized the camera, though. It's in a bad place a lot of the time. Since this is a demo, I don't actually care about it that much, but in the real game, when I'm trying to get high ranks, I could see it getting frustrating fast.
I am starting to agree with people who criticized the camera, though. It's in a bad place a lot of the time. Since this is a demo, I don't actually care about it that much, but in the real game, when I'm trying to get high ranks, I could see it getting frustrating fast.
Net_Wrecker
Member
Just....why does it get pushed up against geometry? That's like the #1 problem with most third person free camera systems. Why don't devs just let it phase through and make the wall semitransparent? It would solve so many issues.
bone_and_sinew
breaking down barriers in gratuitous nudity
I beat the dog without knowing how to parry, took me a few trys lot easier now I know how to do it.
first playthrough all i did is avoid it's attacks then attack it when it's open/not attack.
The God Hand.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Just got an S rank for every battle. Go me!
Riposte
Member
MadWorld is easily Platinum's worst game. It is the only mediocre / bad game they've made. Anarchy Reign has a really neat campaign and the multiplayer is great aside from some implementation errors.
Man at that blade cancel trick. Game has already been broken open day -20 or w/e?
Man at that blade cancel trick. Game has already been broken open day -20 or w/e?
Captain_Spanky
Member
You shut your whore mouth it's a great game. Hell in terms of ranking Platinum games I'd put Mad World over Vanquish.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
call_kotaku
Member
I guess this is a fine print situation? I figured out the parry just based on how it worked in Bayonetta and SF3, and I don't really know how else I'd be able to explain it in plain English.
It's not really broken because combo variety doesn't really serve much purpose in the game.
Riposte
Member
Maybe, but is it really possible to do that much damage so quickly to the boss otherwise?
I'm thinking Revengeance difficulty needs to really play around with blade mode for the game to reach its full potential.
EDIT: Ah, and they don't fuck up difficulty locks again like they with Bayonetta. Vanquish and Anarchy Reigns gives me hope.
Biff
Member
What do the little letters inside the aiming reticle on enemies mean?
Above it's LKD. I think I've seen TKT as well..
I'm guessing it has to do with the enemy style. Like one describes a weak, light enemy with an assault rifle. Another describes a heavier enemy with rocket launcher, etc.
Above it's LKD. I think I've seen TKT as well..
I'm guessing it has to do with the enemy style. Like one describes a weak, light enemy with an assault rifle. Another describes a heavier enemy with rocket launcher, etc.
R
Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
Wow!
Totally motivated to jump back in the demo now
I remember people were going OOB doing something similar in the ZoE demo but I never bothered trying it myself.
I thought it just said TGT, an abbreviation for target.
Captain_Spanky
Member
but really, MadWorld = 6/10, Vanquish = 8/10.
Naw I'd give Vanquish a 7 or so and MadWorld an 8 I think. I loved the world, the art, the voiceovers, the music, and the gameplay. Hard Mode and the extra missions were a blast. I never got in to Vanquish as much, although I did like it a lot.
The upgrade system in Vanquish and some other stupid design choices really brought that game down for me. =\
I hated what I played of MadWorld, but I appreciate Anarchy Reigns for what it is.
Also, yay, blade mode canceling for all those long recovery enders. Too bad it doesn't work with the breakdance.
I hated what I played of MadWorld, but I appreciate Anarchy Reigns for what it is.
Also, yay, blade mode canceling for all those long recovery enders. Too bad it doesn't work with the breakdance.
Haha, that was the opposite of Bayo cutting out the fun aka bitch time.
Tricky I Shadow
Banned
Well, I got my first lock-up. Went to retry when I died and just got a black screen (360 version).
I love that I'm still learning new stuff as I play this, but is it possible to parry a rocket launcher?!
I love that I'm still learning new stuff as I play this, but is it possible to parry a rocket launcher?!
You can cut it in blade mode.
Riposte
Member
Play on God Hard. Problem solved.