Because until they do that there is absolutely no way you can say that some rare combination of brand/type of vaccine and special genetic makeup does not cause ______.
Don't worry, Cooter. The sperm might be bad in your older days, but you can still bukkake some girls.
So you are saying that the doctors have run all of the various combinations and brands of vaccines that a patient may be required to take in a single doctor's visit, and have analyzed through all the various possible combinations of the human genome? Because until they do that there is absolutely no way you can say that some rare combination of brand/type of vaccine and special genetic makeup does not cause autism.
Well just off of a quick google search. click
But a broader view reveals that it's not Mother Nature who's changed, but we humans.
Drawn by undeveloped land and fertile soil, people are flocking to disaster-prone regions.
This creates a situation in which ordinary events like earthquakes and hurricanes become increasingly elevated to the level of natural disasters that reap heavy losses in human life and property.
Guha-Sapir said that a portion of that increase is artificial, due in part to better media reports and advances in communications. Another reason is that beginning in the 1980s, agencies like CRED and the US Agency for International Development (USAID) began actively looking for natural disasters.
In contrast, natural geologic disasters, such as volcanic eruptions, earthquakes, landslides and avalanches have remained steady in recent decades.
"As you put more and more people in harms way, you make a disaster out of something that before was just a natural event," said Klaus Jacob, a senior research scientists at Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory.
So you are saying that the doctors have run all of the various combinations and brands of vaccines that a patient may be required to take in a single doctor's visit, and have analyzed through all the various possible combinations of the human genome? Because until they do that there is absolutely no way you can say that some rare combination of brand/type of vaccine and special genetic makeup does not cause autism.
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So you are saying that the doctors have run all of the various combinations and brands of vaccines that a patient may be required to take in a single doctor's visit, and have analyzed through all the various possible combinations of the human genome? Because until they do that there is absolutely no way you can say that some rare combination of brand/type of vaccine and special genetic makeup does not cause autism.
Many suspected side effects are so rare that doctors can't even estimate how vaccines might increase or decrease the risk of developing them, the report says.
Brown praised the report — and the 12,000 peer-reviewed studies behind it. She notes that vaccines have been scrutinized more carefully than virtually any other medication. As a pediatrician, she says she's seen kids have allergic reactions to many medications, including the antibiotics that many parents demand during cold season.
I prob. should have read through my own link. :lol On mobile so pardon the copy paste.Err...
with that line of reasoning you can put whatever you want in that blank.
Receiving disability for Autism is not exactly easy. Nor is finding coverage from Health Insurers. That said, any funding received generally goes to therapy and/or medical treatments and care. Attributing a "rise" in Autism to such suspicions is reflective of one's own distaste for what is perceived in others.
I prob. should have read through my own link. :lol On mobile so pardon the copy paste.
You are exactly right. Until you can put someone's genetic sequence into a software package and test how it reacts to stimuli (like you can a bridge, a circuit, a rocket, etc. ), we are still in the dark ages of relying upon sometimes shaky statistical conclusions.
There is nothing shaky about the statistical conclusions on Vaccines, it's rock solid.
Do you do perform these studies yourself?
Is that really the standard you are going to hold him to?
Do you do perform these studies yourself? (i.e. could you answer questions if I asked them?)
Is that really the standard you are going to hold him to?
I dunno if peoples' diets are all collectively getting worse
The most recent statistics on obesity in America would suggest that this is absolutely a fact.
Where I live in the US, I had to prove to the judge that my autism was deliberating enough that I could not live alone nor hold a job without assistance for an extended period of time. Which was pretty easy to prove because I go mostly mute in real life social situations. >.<;
It does seem awfully easy to get a diagnosis for autism lately. I've met people who are as disabled as I am, but on the other hand I've met people who clearly aren't affected by it. :\
I'm a QC Manager at a medium sized manufacturing company.
I could probably answer a few questions, but as far as specific questions about the types of testing done or what was tested I wouldn't be able to answer you.
That said, I have done reading on the subject matter and consider myself more knowledgeable about it than the average person on the street.
If science created an autism vaccine, the universe would create a paradox that would fold in on itself.Give them more vaccinations, that'll fix it.
It's hard to know the first part. There's not much of a baseline because there's not much of a standard test or diagnosis. It's not like polio or TB. The second part is a definite yes.Is the rate of autism up or the number of people being diagnosed up?
It really depends on the severity and "flavor" (for lack of a better word) of autism and the resources in your area. If you're in a major metro, you can get a lot of help for the kids. However, if you're in a smaller city or in the boonies, it's hard to get help in a lot of ways... as to even get the ball rolling, you have to have a pediatrician who knows what the hell they're dealing with.Receiving disability for Autism is not exactly easy. Nor is finding coverage from Health Insurers. That said, any funding received generally goes to therapy and/or medical treatments and care. Attributing a "rise" in Autism to such suspicions is reflective of one's own distaste for what is perceived in others.
I do. Specifically my sister's kid, who is on the severe end of the scale. She has run the gamut of the blame cycle... from having worring it was due to actions during pregnancy, to wondering about vaccines, to worrying about diet (gluten-free marketing is a racket), to thinking she pissed off God. She got mad at me because we had a vehement argument (violent on her part) over her scheduling chelation therapy, and we didn't speak for six months.No, it's really not. You don't know how fucking hard it is to live with your own brother having autism and the heartbreak that comes with it. Of course I had heard that the vaccines may have caused it, and of course any possibility of causing that is troubling. I am just stating what happened after he took that vaccine.
Interesting. My mother, who's been an elementary school principal in the SF Bay Area (which famously has pretty high rates of autism) for over ten years and a teacher for another ten prior to that, has definitely noticed the rate increasing over the years in the kids she observes.
Vaccination is the only method by which infectious diseases have ever been entirely eradicated by human intervention (twice!*) even aside from virtually eradicating many if not most other infectious diseases in first and some third world countries, so I suppose there just must be something wrong with it.
*smallpox and the lesser known livestock disease rinderpest
So in order to prove you needed assistance I would expect you had to provide detailed documentation, examples of limitations and disability and other relevant previous history such as character references or witnesses? I think it would be too large a number of hoops for someone to leap through to simply scam the system in order to receive funds. That coupled with going before a court of law and possibly perjuring oneself seems like a strong enough deterrent to me to quash misuse of funds.
The DSM-V also addresses the severity of Autism in scales. It's difficult to make an accurate assessment of what others are going through without extensive investigation and rigorous testing. When I hear of someone claiming Autism I encourage them to go through the diagnostic process if they can afford it. I cannot and do not presume to proclaim someone to not suffer or show symptoms because I am not a licensed individual capable of doing so in any form. That said, I also agree with you that misdiagnosis is possible and there may be individuals claiming to be Autistic who are not.
We are this close to getting rid of polio, only 650 cases last year, and only 22 so far this year. India was polio free last year.
You sound like a great parent with a pretty good head on their shoulders and it's amazing that you're able to juggle all of these things with your life spinning around, pulled by Autism in many different ways. I'm sure you've thought a lot about this, but I will say that as someone who's done a lot of reading on the subject, there seems to be very little correlation with the amount of Vaccines and the timing of Vaccines and autism.
The current Vaccination schedule is used because it gives children and pre-teens the best chance to NOT get sick.
Vaccines in general do not cause Autism in any way.
There are some very rare risks associated with vaccination that has symptoms that are associated with spectrum disorders similar to Autism.
But the science is in on Vaccines vs. Autism.
These numbers will continue to rise with the changes that will come about in the DSM. The changes being made to the DSM will not make the numbers smaller.
I dunno if its that, this is a very pro-vaccine area. There are a lot of autism centers around here though, and screenings are likely done more regularly here - combine that with the expanded definition of the autism spectrum, a higher diagnosis rate shouldn't be that surprising I think.The SF Bay Area with the famously high autism rates should be studied more to figure out of it's the genes of the people or something in their environment.
Ironically, the people in that area are more hipster health nuts and more against the unnatural than elsewhere and probably buy into organic food and skipping vaccines moreso than other areas.
Not sure how broadening the spectrum means its for the drug companies to make money - drug prescriptions are often the last resort for initial treatment for the less serious/borderline ones on the spectrum (the ones who would not have been diagnosed as on the spectrum before the re-definition), at least from the cases I've seen around here.The DSM is an absolute joke and is nothing more than a manual to make drug companies more money. Its all about pathologising variation of human experience and the DSM5 which has received a huge amount of criticism will do nothing to make the numbers smaller, only larger and not only in autism but across the entire mental health spectrum of "disorders".
So you are saying that the doctors have run all of the various combinations and brands of vaccines that a patient may be required to take in a single doctor's visit, and have analyzed through all the various possible combinations of the human genome? Because until they do that there is absolutely no way you can say that some rare combination of brand/type of vaccine and special genetic makeup does not cause autism.
I have a few questions then, I think as a QC person you can see where I am going with this haha:
1. Do the vaccines get studied when combined with other already approved vaccines?
2. When a new vaccine schedule is approved, are all the vaccines then restudied with their new partners in their new vaccine order?
3. How much of a variation exists between the different vaccine brands, and are these studied individually along the lines of #1 and #2 above? (i.e. I know you can get mercury free vaccines, so are the mercury free versions studied with mercury versions, etc. etc.)
4. What are the typical sample sizes for a vaccine study?
5. What is the sample population? Basically what is the entire sampling methodology for a vaccine study?
I do. Specifically my sister's kid, who is on the severe end of the scale. She has run the gamut of the blame cycle... from having worring it was due to actions during pregnancy, to wondering about vaccines, to worrying about diet (gluten-free marketing is a racket), to thinking she pissed off God. She got mad at me because we had a vehement argument (violent on her part) over her scheduling chelation therapy, and we didn't speak for six months.
Actually most recent statistics on obesity in America would suggest that we're starting to reverse the trend, or have a least leveled off instead of increasing.
So no.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/01/17/u-s-obesity-rates-level-off-remain-high/
Still slight increases for males and kids. And we're talking millions of people and slight percentages, you're talking thousands of people. It's "leveling off" as in not doubling anymore, cause it can't, considering we're now in the 70 percentile overweight. Math is fun until you assume something is going to stop when it hasn't yet but just slowed down.
The SF Bay Area with the famously high autism rates should be studied more to figure out of it's the genes of the people or something in their environment.
Ironically, the people in that area are more hipster health nuts and more against the unnatural than elsewhere and probably buy into organic food and skipping vaccines moreso than other areas.
It's a horrible process. When your kid is sick and all you want to do is make them better, you'll try damn near everything. It's not something I hold against her because I understand her desperation... but I'm glad she didn't go through with it, for her sake as well as his.How chelation practitioners are not all in jail is beyond me, what a terrible thing to have to argue with a sibling about.
I have a few questions then, I think as a QC person you can see where I am going with this haha:
1. Do the vaccines get studied when combined with other already approved vaccines?
2. When a new vaccine schedule is approved, are all the vaccines then restudied with their new partners in their new vaccine order?
3. How much of a variation exists between the different vaccine brands, and are these studied individually along the lines of #1 and #2 above? (i.e. I know you can get mercury free vaccines, so are the mercury free versions studied with mercury versions, etc. etc.)
4. What are the typical sample sizes for a vaccine study?
5. What is the sample population? Basically what is the entire sampling methodology for a vaccine study?
Err...
However, about two-thirds of the increase is real and the result of rises in so-called hydro-meteorological disasters, Guha-Sapir said. These disasters include droughts, tsunamis, hurricanes, typhoons and floods and have been increasing over the past 25 years. In 1980, there were only about 100 such disasters reported per year but that number has risen to over 300 a year since 2000.
Scientists believe the increase in hydro-meteorological disasters is due to a combination of natural and made-made factors. Global warming is increasing the temperatures of the Earth's oceans and atmosphere, leading to more intense storms of all types, including hurricanes.
Wow pretty detailed answer.
Honestly I don't want to jump to conclusions with Autism, I just think that it could be a genetic thing we don't understand and unfortunately these kids are just unlucky and I figure some parents don't want to accept the truth that it just might be nobody's fault or that it's something at our current scientific knowledge cannot explain at the current time.