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NBA LIVE 18 demo is up on Xbox and PSN
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Yeah, there's a lack of fluidity that's apparent when you transistion from dribbling and shooting. Pull ups and fade aways dont feel natural at all.
This rhetoric that nba live does not rely on animations and 2k still scripts heavily needs to stop. Nba live is as guilty of pulling off animation scripting as 2k is, and 2k has gotten better at making sure that anybody can branch out off animations at any point to give players more control.
Anyway, this game does have a lot to offer to players who like the career stuff. The on court play has some of the basics in place, but its just not up to par with any of the recent 2ks. Some people think this is a year or two away from competing, i personally think its closer to 3-4 years away.
It's not just in the animation system and controls (live already basically copied 2k's control template) where 2k has live beat by mile, but the actual depth of the 5 on 5 basketball blows this away. Too often, players around you are stagnant and not moving with a sense of purpose, which makes the game feel less dynamic than it should.
Solid effort, the game has its moments, and if they at least make it so that the progression in their careeer modes are not a grind session, i suspect they will get some members of the community to pick this over 2k at the 40 dollar preorder price.
Yes I meant on Xbox tapping x Twice while driving to do a Euro hop step.
On another note I thought this post was very helpful in understanding the drive and dribble mechanic
And some people are finding the dribbling shooting animations are better for them by increasing game speed to 75-80.
Oh and switching to Player lock camera during the career mode games made it much better for me. Hope they bring the player lock camera to NBA play now
Crazy Diamond
Member
Is the play now mode made by different devs than the career mode? Why does everything look and feel so much clunkier and slow in play now?
ScientificPizza
Banned
this game feels pretty good tbh. i find the shooting way more intuitive than 2K tbh, but that might be because it's a lot simpler
The euro step is not the hop step. I can execute those moves fine.
Alter_Fridge
Member
KD's jump shot is quality. Curry's is pretty nice too. Don't care for AD's jumper but 2K never get it right either.
Why, I don't know. It's pretty textbook
I'll play the demo again when they add new stuff (which they said they would) hopefully with letting us play at lvl 20.
And I gotta say...I turned off all the stupid contextual hints and I enjoyed it a lot more.
With that being said I couldn't make a single goddamn free throw.
At this point I'm just waiting to see what 2k drops. Do they actually listen to their customers at least a little, and respect them? We shall find out. But I'm guessing a lot of what they're going to do is smoke and mirrors which is exactly what 2k17 was.
And I gotta say...I turned off all the stupid contextual hints and I enjoyed it a lot more.
With that being said I couldn't make a single goddamn free throw.
At this point I'm just waiting to see what 2k drops. Do they actually listen to their customers at least a little, and respect them? We shall find out. But I'm guessing a lot of what they're going to do is smoke and mirrors which is exactly what 2k17 was.
Trust the process.
I'm glad there is this demo. I'm quite pleased with it and they made great improvements over the last release.
Alter_Fridge
Member
Agreed. They have a great foundation to work with now and stop 2K having a monopoly over the BBall game market. This is light years better than anything else EA has done previously.
My little brother is playing 2k17 right now and asked when live was coming out.......I told him same day as 2k18......he said unless the prelude is that good he would rather get live first because it's a more fun and relaxing experience. We had fun doing challenges last night and it's something 2k doesn't offer. Being able to team up against 5 AIs for loot is fun as shit.
Plus progression is fantastic and doesmt feel like a grind. I mean we had 78 overall characters by the end of last night just after a few hours.
There's just something despite its jerkiness and wonk that I like in the gameplay. Maybe it's because spamming dribble moves.....you know something every NBA player supposedly does realistically isn't very effect in live, you have to actually do something to score
Plus progression is fantastic and doesmt feel like a grind. I mean we had 78 overall characters by the end of last night just after a few hours.
There's just something despite its jerkiness and wonk that I like in the gameplay. Maybe it's because spamming dribble moves.....you know something every NBA player supposedly does realistically isn't very effect in live, you have to actually do something to score
IDontBeatGames
Member
For someone who mainly plays MyCareer on 2K anyway, I think I'm going to go with NBA Live 18. I can live with the animations being awkward/janky or whatever adjective you would like to use to describe them. It's a lot more relaxing and it's not a horrifically annoying experience like NBA 2K's MyCareer has been the last 2 years or so.
The presentation for this game's MyCareer is a whole lot better and feels like there's more control or customization with your player. This obviously includes the archetypes, the animations, the builds/badges you can use for your player and so on.
However, I do hope the ultimate team mode or MyTeam mode for this game is even slightly better or close to MyTeam on 2K, and I'll be okay with it. When it comes to 2K, it's obviously the better game and it's obviously the superior basketball game. I think almost every person who's played this demo or played 2K for the last couple of years already knows this.
The honest trade off is you're getting the inferior game for a lower price tag as an incentive plus a better MyCareer mode. You're also getting a game that isn't so money hungry with Virtual Currency(VC). Honestly, on day one of 2K, most players just buy the virtual currency to max out their player till 87-89. That way, they can just go straight to park or start off being an offensive god (pretty much) during their MyCareer mode. At least in this game, you can buy crates through reputation which gives you the incentive to choose the dialogue choices that give you that as a prize.
Knowing all of this though, I'll end up getting NBA Live 18 day one and most likely 2K on the Switch in the future or on PSN when it goes on sale a few months later.
The presentation for this game's MyCareer is a whole lot better and feels like there's more control or customization with your player. This obviously includes the archetypes, the animations, the builds/badges you can use for your player and so on.
However, I do hope the ultimate team mode or MyTeam mode for this game is even slightly better or close to MyTeam on 2K, and I'll be okay with it. When it comes to 2K, it's obviously the better game and it's obviously the superior basketball game. I think almost every person who's played this demo or played 2K for the last couple of years already knows this.
The honest trade off is you're getting the inferior game for a lower price tag as an incentive plus a better MyCareer mode. You're also getting a game that isn't so money hungry with Virtual Currency(VC). Honestly, on day one of 2K, most players just buy the virtual currency to max out their player till 87-89. That way, they can just go straight to park or start off being an offensive god (pretty much) during their MyCareer mode. At least in this game, you can buy crates through reputation which gives you the incentive to choose the dialogue choices that give you that as a prize.
Knowing all of this though, I'll end up getting NBA Live 18 day one and most likely 2K on the Switch in the future or on PSN when it goes on sale a few months later.
IDontBeatGames
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cripterion
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Lol
I'm personally just tired with 2K's MyCareer, not just because of the VC bullshit, but the actual story modes are fuckin terrible and they barely change year after year. I still can't believe we had to be a guy whose name was literally "Frequency Vibrations." Adding Spike Lee didn't do shit....every year your player is some unfunny douchebag with a creepy agent and some weird ass friends. At least in 2K11 you could decide to be a nice guy. The dialogue is cringe-worthy and the loading times are atrocious. I remember in 2K17, I quit because I was tired of my coach taking my minutes away just because I didn't attend those awkward and dull practice sessions.
Also, it's interesting how there's no news about the MyCareer plot for 2k yet, all they showed was the player creation. I'll wait or the Prelude, but as of now I'm taking that as a sign that they shoehorned in the MyCareer this season.
Also, it's interesting how there's no news about the MyCareer plot for 2k yet, all they showed was the player creation. I'll wait or the Prelude, but as of now I'm taking that as a sign that they shoehorned in the MyCareer this season.
Yearsoflurking
Member
Man... f my career 2k needs to fix my leagues.. stupid ass keeper system and progression system is broke
The Last Wizard
Member
2K needs to seperate the park character from the career character, thats one of the main issues.
IDontBeatGames
Member
Yup, i'm glad NBA Live does this in a minor way, which is through making builds with your badges to let you create "two" types of your own player.
Also certain street badges are not usable in league. Meaning they feel that they would be unbalanced. So live is already a step ahead in terms of being able to balance characters
IDontBeatGames
Member
Yup, and I'm going to support this game as much as possible for trying to get ahead of the game.
Neither have I. I've been playing The One a lot, just trying out different positions and seeing the potential builds. It's fun doing so, I haven't really settled on a position yet, but I would love for EA to add in Hybrid Wing - Plays like Lebron James, I would run that position so quickly.
I am impressed. It is a bit clunky but I really like the dribble/drive game. It feels fluid and allows you to penetrate the lanes to get to the basket realistically with the hip ride animations. Compared to 2K where you very often get stonewalled, even if you have a fast player with great dribbling versus a slow center or poor defender in general. 2K is good, but that is the one aspect I always strongly disliked and felt it wasn't an accurate representation of the NBA. You can't stonewall in the NBA.
dskillzhtown
keep your strippers out of my American football
We are lucky if the start button doesn't cost VC to unlock.
dragonyeuw
Member
I agree with this.
Playing the finals matchup, I'm actually able to get past guys. Like with Steph after a big switched onto him, I can actually dribble past to get into the lane. 2K made that too difficult a lot of times. Even in matchups where the ballhandler should have a clear advantage.
Yearsoflurking
Member
5 out needs to die in a fire it's not a real offense
StereoVsn
Member
Isn't Park gone in 2018? That gives me hope that. Eh will have separate SP progression for MyCareer and will relax the archetypes. If that's done I will still go with 2K18 but otherwise Live 18 might be what I get.
The demo was surprisingly better then I expected. It's still a bit janky but it wasn't bad by any means. Plus I am not in any hurry to get 2K18 since it will be $30-35 come November. So it's either pre-order from BestBuy ($48 with GCU and $10 certificate) or wait.
There is like, less than a 0% chance of this.
hooper4life
Neo Member
The update didn't fix the matchmaking SMH
What did it do?
And I guess all versions must have the same problems? I'd been on the New Zealand version. I thought it might help to get the US one, but I guess same problems.
hooper4life
Neo Member
I have no idea bruh. I would think they would try to fix the Live Pick up Games, but nope, the Matchmaking is still completely broken
Stealthcobra
Member
The VC is exactly why I'm considering going with nba live
Karspankey
Banned
D:
Liking the game! Not a big basketball person, but it feels fresh!
interesting.
Banana Aeon
Member
Fucking Paul's face. It's so perfect.
Karspankey
Banned
I really like the look of the models in comparison to 2K. Some look pretty great! Curious to see what it'll look like on Pro since the base game already looks pretty sharp! I've noticed some ghosting (in replays) so I'm thinking they have some sort of temporal AA going on.
I know right
I only noticed it after uploading the picture!
popsicle_sundays
Member
Really enjoying the demo so far. Is there going to be 4k/60fps PS4 Pro support?
No details but there was mention of Pro and Xbox X support coming, just maybe not at release (for Pro)
As someone who only plays 2k for MyCareer. I'm about ready to make the jump to Live. First thing i noticed is how smooth the animations were. They feel so fluid. You play 2k for all of 10 minutes and you can see the game run through it's set of stunted pre-canned animations depending on the situation. Things just felt more natural here and i liked it.
I also like the presentation and the way you level and unlock stuff. It doesn't seem to have the depth of 2k in terms of trying to make your player your own but still i enjoyed it.
Going back to the animations, when players would run plays on offense whether it be trying to find their spot on the 3pt line or setting a PnR they looked very natural and fluid. I felt myself actually scanning the court a lot more to ensure that someone wasn't open off a cut somewhere because all the movement looked believable. When you call for a PnR in 2k, its so slow and clunky it's almost like you can see the system thinking about what you're asking it to do.
The $40 price point is sweet too. I think i might bite.
I also like the presentation and the way you level and unlock stuff. It doesn't seem to have the depth of 2k in terms of trying to make your player your own but still i enjoyed it.
Going back to the animations, when players would run plays on offense whether it be trying to find their spot on the 3pt line or setting a PnR they looked very natural and fluid. I felt myself actually scanning the court a lot more to ensure that someone wasn't open off a cut somewhere because all the movement looked believable. When you call for a PnR in 2k, its so slow and clunky it's almost like you can see the system thinking about what you're asking it to do.
The $40 price point is sweet too. I think i might bite.
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