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Capcom announces Dead Rising: Chop Til' You Drop for US (Press Release inside)
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Adam Scott Aukerman
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Capcom said:
Got to love the writers of bullet points, those last four all pretty much say the same thing.
But that's what pisses me off. Might as well just make a completely different game, in a different location, with different characters, instead of modifying what was a perfect game that had already been completed and released on another console.itxaka said:Be aware that is supposed to be complete different, so probably the save system is changed to be accommodated to the game so no problems for me there.
Sold on my part just for the title
What does this have to do with being a "purist"? Time management and knowing that you only had one slot (both of which have been nuked from this version), so you had to think quickly in a world where you can make all kinds of different decisions is what made Dead Rising so much fun. Knowing you could start another game and go down a different path adds much replay value.slasher_thrasher21 said:
FightyF said:
My own sources say otherwise
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20070131/3dlp.htm
Aaron Strife
Banned
Did you read the press release? The game still has decision making.FightyF said:
Zoramon089
Banned
Diablos said:
Well maybe you should stop thinking of it as the same game then. Sure it has the same characters, story and basic premise (use anything as a weapon, fight through zombie hordes) but everything else is different. And also you act like you know what the new save system is like. You just assume it's horrible and ruins the game but we don't even know anything outside the fact that it's different
Strange that fellow Dead Rising fans are doing more complaining about the save system, than the fact that taking photos is not in the game at all.
While the save system was great in the 360 version, I can live with changes to it. Especially when it seems the entire mission system is linear now. There's no reason to force a save system on people encouraging multiple play throughs, when the game isn't an open world. I mean, that just makes sense right?
But the photo taking is what sold me on the game to begin with and it not being in the Wii version is the biggest flaw in my opinion.
Still buying it day 1.
While the save system was great in the 360 version, I can live with changes to it. Especially when it seems the entire mission system is linear now. There's no reason to force a save system on people encouraging multiple play throughs, when the game isn't an open world. I mean, that just makes sense right?
But the photo taking is what sold me on the game to begin with and it not being in the Wii version is the biggest flaw in my opinion.
Still buying it day 1.
SlasherJPC
Banned
Diablos said:
Because mainly the purist only care about this being dropped. A person that plays the same game repeatedly complains about this. Sure it sucks thats its gone but it doesnt completely change the game. So some people might not feel as much tension. I don't know about you but really the only tension I ever felt was just trying to get the survivors back to base. Aside from that its was a pretty awesome zombie killing game.
I just think for anyone thats not happy with the decision and have or has played the 360 version should just avoid it. People that only have a Wii and want the game have no other choice but seeing as they never played the game most likely will only somewhat miss these things if at all.
The way you guys come off on this board is like the game isn't going to feel like Dead Rising and I think thats just ridiculous. The core gameplay or rescuing people, killing zombies in many ways, costumes, etc is still there along with the storyline. Gameplay is still there, its just has a different set of rules.
_Alkaline_
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What I like is that its not simply a downgraded version of Dead Rising from 360. They're actually reworking the core game in order to suit the Wii's strengths (and weaknesses) and differentiating this version from its 360 counterpart.
What this means is that it looks like it'll actually be worth owning both versions, since the Wii version is that much different to what we saw on the 360.
What this means is that it looks like it'll actually be worth owning both versions, since the Wii version is that much different to what we saw on the 360.
Fatghost said:
I loved it too. But people seem to be missing my point.
Why have a system which forces you to make tough decisions, when the game no longer has tough decisions? Everything we've heard so far points to the fact that the game will be linear, and you solve missions one after another. Having a save system made for an open world with open decisions in a closed world with closed missions doesn't make sense.
Miniboss1232
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So many people arguing over the save system of a game they'll never buy anyways.
SlasherJPC
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Miniboss1232 said:
Right? I mean hell I'm buying it, I own the 360 version already, and I'm still NOT complaining... lol
ThatObviousUser
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Hey guys the 360 version should totally have used a password system, memory-based saves ruin so much of the tension yo.
Jaded Alyx
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Acid08 said:
Did someone say otherwise?
Mr_Appleby
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cw_sasuke said:
more tears?? i'm about to put my rubber boots on it's that bad.. :lol
Brofist
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That's a decent title. And i thought it was going to be named something like Dead Rising: Sporadic Zombies
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Will be interesting how they will market that one of they ever get it though. "Taking advantage of the same proven technology that brought Resident Evil® 4 so successfully to Wii, Resident Evil 5 delivers a..."
koam said:
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Will be interesting how they will market that one of they ever get it though. "Taking advantage of the same proven technology that brought Resident Evil® 4 so successfully to Wii, Resident Evil 5 delivers a..."
Count Dookkake
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kpop100 said:
I think they might choose to focus on the controls. Just a guess.
It's a borked simplified game for a borked simplified audience. Seriously does anyone ONLY own a wii? I don't think there's a gamer that would admit to it.
The wii is a casual system for casually minded people , dead rising on 360 was most definetly a 'core gamer' title but the wii version not only needs to be watered down due to massive technical limitations but reworked so that the casual audience can figure out how to play it and still enjoy it.
It's also not super farfetched to me that some aspects still look pretty good, the zombie count is about 10% of what it was and it's running at less then half the resolution. That along shaves ALOT off the demand placed on the wii to compute all the graphics.
There's also a group of people that enjoyed most of what was offered on 360 but had troubles with the difficulty / save system. This version of the game will atleast allow them to see the storyline unfold without as much issues.
The wii is a casual system for casually minded people , dead rising on 360 was most definetly a 'core gamer' title but the wii version not only needs to be watered down due to massive technical limitations but reworked so that the casual audience can figure out how to play it and still enjoy it.
It's also not super farfetched to me that some aspects still look pretty good, the zombie count is about 10% of what it was and it's running at less then half the resolution. That along shaves ALOT off the demand placed on the wii to compute all the graphics.
There's also a group of people that enjoyed most of what was offered on 360 but had troubles with the difficulty / save system. This version of the game will atleast allow them to see the storyline unfold without as much issues.
Shogmaster
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I agree that the RE4 controls will make aiming more intuitive, but "mouse like precision"? Come on now... Which Wii have you been playing? When I move my mouse, my cursor doesn't shake around like I have mild Parkinson's. :lolTeknoman said:
ThatObviousUser
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Pachinko said:
This was asked like two months ago in the April NPD thread.
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Broadbandito
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give us DR2 already, fuck lol
Shogmaster
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I don't think it's more accurate. More intuitive, sure. Faster cursor, sure. But too shaky to be labeled "more accurate".Teknoman said:
_Alkaline_
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Pachinko said:
Every single time.
Robert-GCA
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I only own a Wii. You can only do so much on a non-salary job and bills.Pachinko said:
rollingstart
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Teknoman said:
I think only for aiming the Wii controls will be better. It seems like they are having more focus on the guns in this version, since anyone who played the 360 knows that guns weren't the best options.
And I think discussion of this port is actually quite funny to be honest. Both sides are hilarious.
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Except lots of games do not have Dead Risings save system. Apparently all these save systems are inferior but the developers just don't realize? Or the Dead Rising save system is only superior for zombie games? Or zombie games set in malls?FightyF said:
Pachinko said:
wii is the only next-gen system I own... I'm an ex-pc hardcore fps player and I got tired of upgrading my computer. I always thought mouse+keyboard was superior to traditional console controls in any game that involved 1st/3rd person weapon aiming until wii+nunchuck came along. I love wii controls and am looking forward to playing this on wii. when I look at vids of some traditional controls now it's like watching a keyboard only player play quake before everybody started using mouses... it looks way too stiff for me...it looks old and outdated to me I dont care about graphics.
morningbus
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Vic said:
Vic
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You should use a period there instead of a question mark.
nightez: Thanks for the info. Someone's gotta clear that up.
If you're referring to me, my purchase would wholly depend on whether the game deserves to be bought or not. If they take away some of the great design of the first one, the less likely I will be to buy it.
It has to do with other things like game length (DR wasn't a very long game, shorter than most single player games), the design of player attributes and upgrading (you could upgrade Frank, and when you died, kept these upgrades when you started all over), and the particular genre you are working with (linear platformers would not work well in this situation as you are playing the game the same way all over again, and yes, games like Mario and Sonic do fit into this category, so those games gave you multiple lives, whereas Dead Rising was an open world, and could be tackled very differently through each playthrough).
You do realize that it has less to do with how the game "saves" (as you can save it like any other game, if you go to savepoints), but more to do with how you only have ONE LIFE?
Miniboss1232 said:
If you're referring to me, my purchase would wholly depend on whether the game deserves to be bought or not. If they take away some of the great design of the first one, the less likely I will be to buy it.
poppabk said:
It has to do with other things like game length (DR wasn't a very long game, shorter than most single player games), the design of player attributes and upgrading (you could upgrade Frank, and when you died, kept these upgrades when you started all over), and the particular genre you are working with (linear platformers would not work well in this situation as you are playing the game the same way all over again, and yes, games like Mario and Sonic do fit into this category, so those games gave you multiple lives, whereas Dead Rising was an open world, and could be tackled very differently through each playthrough).
You do realize that it has less to do with how the game "saves" (as you can save it like any other game, if you go to savepoints), but more to do with how you only have ONE LIFE?
Attack You
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There are people in here arguing about how complicated DR is. My god. There are zombies and an assortment of armed assholes. You bash their skulls in, or you run. It's not rocket surgery.
Someone link to the Castlevania: SoTN XBLA thread of "how the fuck do you get anywhere in this game?!"
My god. There are zombies and an assortment of armed assholes. You bash their skulls in, or you run. It's not rocket surgery.Someone link to the Castlevania: SoTN XBLA thread of "how the fuck do you get anywhere in this game?!"
MrNyarlathotep
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In this topic: people bitching purely on speculation (again).
Where did that get said? All I've seen claimed is that it's been 'streamlined' - which could mean pretty much ANYTHING, from an autosave after each case that doesn't require you to sleep in the security room, to dividing the game into 'chapters' which you can start at any time, to anything in between.
Also the PR quote pretty fucking explicitly states that there is time management and choices to be made about who to save, with skill required to save everybody - hey, just like the 360 version did!
Again, we don't really know what they're doing with it, but the original DR had a somewhat linear missions system with specific timing (which was why people bitched about it mostly - spend too long dicking about and ignoring your cases, and you get a 'YOU FAIL, RELOAD OR PLAY TILL GAME OVER?' message and there was nothing to stop you making your last (and only) save in a lose-lose position) - for all we know, all DRWii is doing is preventing you from making your only save when doing so would not leave you enough time to do your 'story' missions and prevent you from progressing any further.
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I don't know if there is a better term than retarded to label an entire consoles game library based on preconceptions of its audience, but given MS E3 presentations, it looks like MS has a pretty low opinion of the self-proclaimed 'core gamer' when they spend half their time making Mii-toos and bragging about karaoke and trivia games.
PROTIP: Nobody knows what the fuck Capcom have changed about Dead Rising to 'streamline' it. At this point, all bitching about it does is reinforce how butthurt people are about the Wii being worldwide sales leader and getting 'real games' now.
When all that's announced for it are shitty shovelware and minigameathons, it's all 'Wii60 FTW!', and mocking 'casuals' and shit, as soon as promsing titles that play to the strengths of the system - which is what a lot of Wii owners actually want - theoverpaying for their consoles group of buyers remorse HD defence force are straight in with their 'DOWNGRADE TOTAL' bullshit.
Lots of games only give you one life, lots of games give you RPG like levelling on that one life, and lots of games have only one available save file.
The difference between DR and lots of other games was that it let you save your game at a point where you are totally screwed and stood no chance of finishing the game in any 'good' way.
It never bothered me, but then I'm not a 'quicksave before every corner' type of gamer, which - ironically - a lot of 'core gamers' are.
Diablos said:
Where did that get said? All I've seen claimed is that it's been 'streamlined' - which could mean pretty much ANYTHING, from an autosave after each case that doesn't require you to sleep in the security room, to dividing the game into 'chapters' which you can start at any time, to anything in between.
Also the PR quote pretty fucking explicitly states that there is time management and choices to be made about who to save, with skill required to save everybody - hey, just like the 360 version did!
Mar_ said:
Again, we don't really know what they're doing with it, but the original DR had a somewhat linear missions system with specific timing (which was why people bitched about it mostly - spend too long dicking about and ignoring your cases, and you get a 'YOU FAIL, RELOAD OR PLAY TILL GAME OVER?' message and there was nothing to stop you making your last (and only) save in a lose-lose position) - for all we know, all DRWii is doing is preventing you from making your only save when doing so would not leave you enough time to do your 'story' missions and prevent you from progressing any further.
Pachinko said:
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I don't know if there is a better term than retarded to label an entire consoles game library based on preconceptions of its audience, but given MS E3 presentations, it looks like MS has a pretty low opinion of the self-proclaimed 'core gamer' when they spend half their time making Mii-toos and bragging about karaoke and trivia games.
PROTIP: Nobody knows what the fuck Capcom have changed about Dead Rising to 'streamline' it. At this point, all bitching about it does is reinforce how butthurt people are about the Wii being worldwide sales leader and getting 'real games' now.
When all that's announced for it are shitty shovelware and minigameathons, it's all 'Wii60 FTW!', and mocking 'casuals' and shit, as soon as promsing titles that play to the strengths of the system - which is what a lot of Wii owners actually want - the
FightyF said:
Lots of games only give you one life, lots of games give you RPG like levelling on that one life, and lots of games have only one available save file.
The difference between DR and lots of other games was that it let you save your game at a point where you are totally screwed and stood no chance of finishing the game in any 'good' way.
It never bothered me, but then I'm not a 'quicksave before every corner' type of gamer, which - ironically - a lot of 'core gamers' are.