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PS3 Emulator RPCS3 Can Now Play Demon's Souls on PC
- Thread starter PGamer
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I wonder if Sony will reconsider the cost of PS Now being that Microsoft is offering a similar yet cheaper alternative but with full downloads and no streaming (which will obviously be a way better experience)
Vital Tundra
Member
It can not be easy creating a PS3 emulator. Doing great work, glad to see such progress.
Sectorseven
Member
Are these hurdles that you could just throw money at? With the recent surge in Patreon backers for Cemu, and the growing interest in PS3 emulation, it just makes me wonder if there would be a market for one. I know I'd be tempted if I could play Bloodborne 2 (or whatever) around release day on my PC.
How about, you know, both?
Have you ever heard of false dichotomies?
kraspkibble
Permabanned.
daaamn. i really want to play this game. i was gonna buy a PS3 the other day just to play it. it's the only soulsborne i haven't played.
it's on PS Now?
it's on PS Now?
kraspkibble
Permabanned.
accidental double post!
Rellik
Member
Lol games are easily pirated on the PS3. Demon's Souls has been pirated for years and years so I fail to see how this makes it a lesser chance of a remaster.
Plumpbiscuit
Member
I guess the game is no longer PS3 exclusive. 
Jokes aside, it's kind of funny seeing this game on PC before a PS4 remaster... c'mon, Sony!
Jokes aside, it's kind of funny seeing this game on PC before a PS4 remaster... c'mon, Sony!
They might have added it at some point, but when I checked a year or two ago it wasn't on there.
Oh wow, nice. I've been meaning to give Demon's Souls a proper second (actually third) chance, playing it in a higher resolution with possibly a stable framerate would be fantastic. Still don't know shit about the lore of the game, gonna be interesting trying to piece it together myself since I've never been particularly good at that with the other Souls games.
ScientificPizza
Banned
It's insane that this is already so far along
TheAdmiester
Member
In my opinion, I'd probably say yes in most cases. I know some of the hurdles for Xbox in particular have been based on "I can do this but I need to work/live". If I had more money than sense I'd definitely throw a ton at someone who wants to make an Xbox emulator.
There are two kinds of people in emulation-related threads like this one: those who see the merits of an open-source emulator like this one and those who don't. It breaks my heart to see how easily the amazing work of these devs is dimissed by certain people.
Anyway, congrats to the RPCS3 dev team! I have never actually tried this emulator because, like Xenia, it has been on pretty dev-focused stages so far. But now that it has come such a long way, I'm dying to get my hands on it!
Anyway, congrats to the RPCS3 dev team! I have never actually tried this emulator because, like Xenia, it has been on pretty dev-focused stages so far. But now that it has come such a long way, I'm dying to get my hands on it!
Jonneh3003
Banned
Looks like PS Now is still the best way for PC gamers to play this.
Edit: oh hang on is it only on PS Now in Japan?
Edit: oh hang on is it only on PS Now in Japan?
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
I CAN FINALLY PLAY MGS3 HD ON PC?
Sanctuary
Member
The game was never visually stunning in the first place. What made it so impressive was the atmosphere, and it's just as good now as it ever was. So this is subjectively inaccurate. If you're leaping to some wild assumption that I wouldn't care whether or not it could be playable at a higher resolution; that's just wrong.
I know dude I was so pissed when Wind Waker HD bombed so hard they did another one immediately afterwards that I'm sure also must have definitely bombed.
Pirate bastards!
It took PC a decade to catch up with the amazing cell technology. PS3 really was a beast
/s
My thoughts. Hehe
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Demons Souls stays treasured unlike the trash that was DS2.
The existence of this emulator according to some wise people on GAF in this very thread. It's a vicious circle!
(If I had to guess, problems with the source code or sth. iirc DeS had experienced a ton of back and forth during its development, would be a reasonable explanation)
Barajas_201
Member
Ugh, if only I had a decent PC, however there is still hope: SONY PLEASE!
Its already a decade. Frankly, this could've been sooner since the emulator went into a very long hiatus with little to no progress for years, but yeah. You can thank Patreon for changing this.
AcceptableGhost
Member
Patreon is definitely going to change up the emulation scene.
isaacnukem
Member
You can just hear the PC Gamer article type itself
This is just to show that it can be run, it's running on an interpreter. Emulation isn't just ripping a ROM and whatever comes out on the emulator is what you get forever.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
yup, it really will
Skyfireblaze
Member
Now that's really impressive! I take it I have no way of getting Demon's Souls on my PC though if I own it digitally and I don't have a CFW PS3? :/
Crimsonclaw111
Member
If this gets running at an acceptable framerate I'll buy the game and actually get to try it out.
mikezilla2
Member
that and EMUs like this convice the Devs that there is a market for said game in the first place !
Money started getting made by the devs.
triplestation
Member
Red dead redemption when??
AcceptableGhost
Member
I don't see the problem with talented developers getting paid for their legal work. This stuff is important work (and in this instance, the system is over a decade old at this point). I don't see why people can't see the value in being able to easily play this game (which I think is an amazing game and also significant) and others in a method detached from fixed hardware so that this game can be played trivially 10, 20, 30, 100+ years from now on whatever form of hardware exists at that point in time. The idea that emulator authors are finding ways to make a living doing it sounds amazing to me, hopefully someone starts one up to try to improve the pace of development on PCSX2 as well.
Speaking personally, if I could throw Sony (MS/Nintendo/Sega, etc) a small amount of money per month to ensure the continued survival of video-games long after the hardware has broken, I would. Some kind of industry non-profit group that could employ people to port code to the PC - which, let's face it, is the only long-term standardised hardware this industry will have for the foreseeable future - once it has outlived it's company value would be pretty awesome. Because, honestly, it's not like Sony/From are making money from Demon's Souls as it stands, and hardware only lasts for so long before optical drive/hd/fans/mobo/LAN port breaks. If my PS3 dies, I'm not buying a new PS3 - either I'm buying second-hand, or I'm doing without. And if my DeS disc becomes unreadable, I'm buying a second-hand copy, or doing without.
But until the point where the manufacturers/pubs/devs actually care about the long-term survival of the product they spend millions creating and marketing, giving money to average people on Patreon to "keep up the good work" seems like the only choice.
tl;dr - if the industry gave a crap, we'd all be better off.
I imagine their mentality has more to do with pragmatism; is it easy to provide, and will it be enough of a value sell for us? And for that matter what is the competition doing?
If it's easy enough I'd be cautiously optimistic they'd put it in. If for some reason it's more advantageous to go with a totally different processor/GPU then they'd probably nix it, or if some difficulty arises. They can still try to upsell you on higher end versions of games afterall.
daninthemix
Member
In the last five years CPUs have hardly progressed at all. What makes you think that's going to change over the next five?
Not sure if this is what Sanctuary was thinking, but the obvious answer would be optimisation tweaks for the emulator. Considering this is still Alpha, and it's only in the last week/10 days they got the "eureka moment" to get DeS running, there'll be plenty of room for optimising it for multi-core CPUs. Which are what should be in the majority of mid-range desktop PCs in 5 years time.