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Chitown B
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(11-09-2017, 06:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dr. Zoidberg

If the well for possible 360 BC releases was drying up due to licensing and other factors, (and I'm not saying it is), I'd be totally fine with BC X enhancements released on weeks when they don't have any new games to add.

I'm left wondering how hard it is to X enhance these BC games. If it were just Halo and Gears then I might assume it takes a good bit of effort but the fact that a game like Mirror's Edge got enhanced makes me wonder since I doubt that a ton of work went into enhancing that game.

From what I gather, a lot of the games already ran uncapped and had higher res textures available but downsampled to fit the 360. So they might not take too much work to get them using their available assets and coding.
Gitaroo
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(11-09-2017, 06:35 PM)

Originally Posted by Dr. Zoidberg

If the well for possible 360 BC releases was drying up due to licensing and other factors, (and I'm not saying it is), I'd be totally fine with BC X enhancements released on weeks when they don't have any new games to add.

I'm left wondering how hard it is to X enhance these BC games. If it were just Halo and Gears then I might assume it takes a good bit of effort but the fact that a game like Mirror's Edge got enhanced makes me wonder since I doubt that a ton of work went into enhancing that game.

I don't think new assets where added. Just the same game but running in higher resolution. You will be surprise how much resolution alone enhance the visual. Look at dark souls 1 on pc for example. The amazing texture work suddenly pop once people figure out how to increase the rendering resolution. Halo 3 HDR addition might be due to what was already there, the game uses 2 hdr pipelines. OG xbox games were definitely not getting any assets upgrade, thing are exactly how they were but rendered in 16x resolution.
JohnSpartanLee
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(11-09-2017, 06:36 PM)
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Is there a chance for Buffy the Vampire Slayer or would there be licensing issues?

And Rallisport Challenge 2?
wvnative
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(11-09-2017, 06:38 PM)

Originally Posted by JohnSpartanLee

Is there a chance for Buffy the Vampire Slayer or would there be licensing issues?

And Rallisport Challenge 2?

Anything based on an existing property, or with licensed music, is extremely unlikely...

I see a lot of requests for Buffy though, was it that good? If so, I need to seek it out at the flea market.
Chitown B
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(11-09-2017, 06:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by wvnative

Anything based on an existing property, or with licensed music, is extremely unlikely...

I see a lot of requests for Buffy though, was it that good? If so, I need to seek it out at the flea market.

it was good VO. Game was "ok" but also that and Chaos Bleeds were really the only Buffy games we ever got, so they both hold a spot in my heart.
wvnative
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(11-09-2017, 06:45 PM)

Originally Posted by Chitown B

it was good VO. Game was "ok" but also that and Chaos Bleeds were really the only Buffy games we ever got, so they both hold a spot in my heart.

Ironic I'm binging it right now on Hulu!

Be cool to get this while I'm binging the show.
WouldYouKindly
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(11-09-2017, 06:46 PM)
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seriously need crackdown 1 and 2 with an x patch if and when it ever gets released. them screens of before and after are beyond amazing
JohnSpartanLee
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(11-09-2017, 07:00 PM)
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Originally Posted by wvnative

Anything based on an existing property, or with licensed music, is extremely unlikely...

I see a lot of requests for Buffy though, was it that good? If so, I need to seek it out at the flea market.

Originally Posted by Chitown B

it was good VO. Game was "ok" but also that and Chaos Bleeds were really the only Buffy games we ever got, so they both hold a spot in my heart.

Chaos Bleeds was okay, but the XBox-exclusive BtVS was "very good" in my opinion. Buffy's moveset was almost on Virtua Fighter-level and every fight was fun and challenging. Atmosphere was great as well. Just an all around good game.
arhra
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(11-09-2017, 08:58 PM)
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Originally Posted by Chitown B

From what I gather, a lot of the games already ran uncapped and had higher res textures available but downsampled to fit the 360. So they might not take too much work to get them using their available assets and coding.

They're not making any changes to the game code or assets. It's all just emulator magic overriding resolution and stuff like texture mip selection.

Bill Stillwell (head of the BC program) popped up in some of the reddit threads to clarify some stuff (most notably this post, and this one).
Dr. Zoidberg
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(11-09-2017, 09:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by arhra

They're not making any changes to the game code or assets. It's all just emulator magic overriding resolution and stuff like texture mip selection

That's great info and it hopefully means we can expect more announcements of X-enhanced BC games.
FarosVillein
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(11-09-2017, 10:20 PM)
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More X-enhanced 360 games is what Microsoft must do to empty my wallet
Dabanton
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(11-09-2017, 10:30 PM)
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I'll ask every month

We need Max Payne 3 and Splinter Cell Blacklist on BC.
Michie
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(11-10-2017, 12:11 AM)
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How long does it usually take for Microsoft to announce more backwards Xbox games?
Dr. Zoidberg
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(11-10-2017, 12:35 AM)
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Originally Posted by Michie

How long does it usually take for Microsoft to announce more backwards Xbox games?

It varies. Sometimes we get them every week, and sometimes there is a month-long dry spell. If there's something big happening (E3, One X Launch, a US holiday, etc.) you can usually expect fewer/no releases. The BC team isn't that big so if they are working on the enhancements for X1 launch, they probably aren't adding new games, etc.
nush
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(11-10-2017, 02:41 AM)
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Nothing today but they have been busy with enhanced titles, so thats good is you have an XB1X.
bobbyphunk
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(11-10-2017, 02:52 AM)
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The Simpson's game would be a nice addition to bc
JP
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(11-10-2017, 03:17 AM)
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My god, Mirrors Edge looks really impressive on the X,
nemisis0
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(11-10-2017, 03:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by JP

My god, Mirrors Edge looks really impressive on the X,


Indeed
Flagship
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(11-10-2017, 11:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by JP

My god, Mirrors Edge looks really impressive on the X,

Honestly I'm jealous haha I've sunken so much time in that game, would love to go back to mop up on the speedrun/trial achievements.

Hopefully mirror's edge Catalyst gets an x patch from dice, I really enjoyed the gameplay aspect of that game. I can imagine loading time speeds for the x will dramatically make the experience more enjoyable/tolerable too.

Man, I really want to get an x but I bought my xbox one phat in 2015 for quite a lot and I bought a ps4 slim this year. I don't regret the latter purchase but I mainly game on xbox so having the better tech would make amazing.

...next gen can't be that far... right?
Flagship
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(11-10-2017, 11:40 AM)
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As for back-compat titles, I started deadly premonition for the first time, it takes a bit to get used to but I'm really enjoying it, I'm glad it got back-compat support as it feels very shenmue-esque and there's not many games like that for xbox one that I'm aware of so it's a very nice addition.

In addition, NiGHTS was a really fun GWG title, I played that for the very first time too and it sparked a bit of a sega nostalgic crave so I started chievo hunting crazy taxi and daytona USA haha, they're great too!
Inuteu
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(11-10-2017, 11:44 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dabanton

I'll ask every month

We need Max Payne 3 and Splinter Cell Blacklist on BC.

great picks

and we need a next gen entry on both of these IPs
Madeiras
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(11-10-2017, 11:46 AM)
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I will go back and play assassins creed again. Till PUBG comes out.
Unity2012
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(11-10-2017, 12:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dabanton

I'll ask every month

We need Max Payne 3 and Splinter Cell Blacklist on BC.

Originally Posted by Inuteu

great picks

and we need a next gen entry on both of these IPs

Agreed. Both franchises deserve enhancements and a come back.
Rukh
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(11-10-2017, 05:08 PM)
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I picked up Dead to Rights and it seems to force me to use inverted right joystick camera controls which is making it difficult to play. I looked up a scan of the instruction manual for the original Xbox release to see if it had an option to invert the camera controls and I can confirm that the PAL version did (couldn't find a US manual scan though), which is bizarre.

Anyone know if there's a way to invert the X-Axis of the right joystick on the Xbone? I tried checking the accessibility options but it only allows Y-Axis inversion.
frogger
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(11-10-2017, 06:06 PM)

Originally Posted by Madeiras

I will go back and play assassins creed again. Till PUBG comes out.

The control in the first AC game is brutal.
amdb00mer
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(11-10-2017, 06:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by Flagship

Honestly I'm jealous haha I've sunken so much time in that game, would love to go back to mop up on the speedrun/trial achievements.

Hopefully mirror's edge Catalyst gets an x patch from dice, I really enjoyed the gameplay aspect of that game. I can imagine loading time speeds for the x will dramatically make the experience more enjoyable/tolerable too.

Man, I really want to get an x but I bought my xbox one phat in 2015 for quite a lot and I bought a ps4 slim this year. I don't regret the latter purchase but I mainly game on xbox so having the better tech would make amazing.

...next gen can't be that far... right?

I would like to see a patch as well. I already 1000/1000g the game, but wouldn't mind playing some parts of it again with some X1X enhancements.
Robso
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(11-11-2017, 12:07 AM)
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Has anybody tested GTA: Episodes at all? Or GTA IV? Wondering how Episodes runs and I imagine it'll run similar to GTA IV.
vsMIC
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(11-11-2017, 08:33 PM)
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are the mirror edge time trial server pemanently down? can not play trials because server unavailable since two days ...
Flagship
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(11-12-2017, 12:51 PM)
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Originally Posted by vsMIC

are the mirror edge time trial server pemanently down? can not play trials because server unavailable since two days ...

Yeah iirc you have to press option (B) on the controller (after the server message pops up) in order to play trial runs offline
wipeout364
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(11-12-2017, 06:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Rukh

I picked up Dead to Rights and it seems to force me to use inverted right joystick camera controls which is making it difficult to play. I looked up a scan of the instruction manual for the original Xbox release to see if it had an option to invert the camera controls and I can confirm that the PAL version did (couldn't find a US manual scan though), which is bizarre.

Anyone know if there's a way to invert the X-Axis of the right joystick on the Xbone? I tried checking the accessibility options but it only allows Y-Axis inversion.

Dead to rights doesn't seem to be available in Canada I wonder why?
vsMIC
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(11-12-2017, 10:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by Flagship

Yeah iirc you have to press option (B) on the controller (after the server message pops up) in order to play trial runs offline

hm, does not work. the message only vanish by pushing A. and back in the trial menu, B is exit to main menu.

do i miss something?

Edit
Got. it. Cancel connection to server (brief Time window) and then you can play offline. Unfortunately no leaderboards nor ghosts, but achieving 3 stars run is challenging enough for me. Love it...
CRAIG667
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(11-14-2017, 06:01 PM)
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Persona 4 Arena, Cars: Mater-National, Jewel Quest and Tecmo Bowl Throwback are coming to Xbox One Backward Compatibility today http://mjr.mn/BackCompat
frogger
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(11-14-2017, 06:20 PM)

Originally Posted by CRAIG667

Persona 4 Arena, Cars: Mater-National, Jewel Quest and Tecmo Bowl Throwback are coming to Xbox One Backward Compatibility today http://mjr.mn/BackCompat


Nice
RobRivers
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(11-14-2017, 06:21 PM)
Hope we have a port of persona 5 in Xbox one :/
frogger
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(11-14-2017, 06:22 PM)

Originally Posted by RobRivers

Hope we have a port of persona 5 in Xbox one :/

unlikely but doesn't hurt to daydream.
Chitown B
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(11-14-2017, 06:27 PM)
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Originally Posted by CRAIG667

Persona 4 Arena, Cars: Mater-National, Jewel Quest and Tecmo Bowl Throwback are coming to Xbox One Backward Compatibility today http://mjr.mn/BackCompat

you've got to be kidding me that 10 year old games like a Cars side game are $20.
HoldSteady
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(11-14-2017, 06:37 PM)

Originally Posted by Dabanton

I'll ask every month

We need Max Payne 3 and Splinter Cell Blacklist on BC.

You are correct. At this point thatís honestly all I want.
Chitown B
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(11-14-2017, 06:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by HoldSteady

You are correct. At this point thatís honestly all I want.

the one I want that should be no problem is Costume Quest 1
Crew 511A
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(11-14-2017, 08:13 PM)
We're never getting Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection, are we?
Gitaroo
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(11-14-2017, 11:07 PM)
is Persona arena just part 1?
theblackjasper
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(11-15-2017, 12:17 AM)
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Originally Posted by Dabanton

I'll ask every month

We need Max Payne 3 and Splinter Cell Blacklist on BC.

this so much
nush
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(11-15-2017, 03:39 AM)
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Great I have Persona 4 Arena.
Koala Driving a Ferrari
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(11-15-2017, 04:28 AM)
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Persona 4 Arena is a nice surprise. I'm concerned that the list is drying up though which is frustrating as hell as there're still so many games to be added. Where's Radiant Silvergun for one? And I don't care what MS has to do regarding the licensing for PGR 3 and 4 but they absolutely have to be brought over to the backwards compatibility list as they're such an important part of the Xbox game library.
Chitown B
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(11-15-2017, 05:55 AM)
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Originally Posted by Koala Driving a Ferrari

Persona 4 Arena is a nice surprise. I'm concerned that the list is drying up though which is frustrating as hell as there're still so many games to be added. Where's Radiant Silvergun for one? And I don't care what MS has to do regarding the licensing for PGR 3 and 4 but they absolutely have to be brought over to the backwards compatibility list as they're such an important part of the Xbox game library.

have any racing games except Forza 1 been made BC? Which was promptly delisted.

it won't happen. And I don't see them as being as important I guess. I had a 360 since 2007 and I never owned them.
ipukespiders
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(11-15-2017, 06:41 AM)
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Nothing for me this week, but nice to see more releases.
Diabolical
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(11-15-2017, 07:07 AM)
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Originally Posted by Koala Driving a Ferrari

Persona 4 Arena is a nice surprise. I'm concerned that the list is drying up though which is frustrating as hell as there're still so many games to be added. Where's Radiant Silvergun for one?

Obviously RSG can still be played on an actual Xbox 360... but it's also already on the Xbox One's BC list.
Winkle
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(11-15-2017, 07:29 AM)
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Came here hoping to see that any of old Tom Clancy stuff had been added... leaves disappointed. 😕

One day.. one day.
cireza
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(11-15-2017, 09:46 AM)
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With Forces now around, I wish I could play 06, Unleashed and Generation on Xbox One. Too bad none of them are available.
Naked Lunch
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(11-15-2017, 10:09 AM)
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Originally Posted by Koala Driving a Ferrari

Persona 4 Arena is a nice surprise. I'm concerned that the list is drying up though which is frustrating as hell as there're still so many games to be added. Where's Radiant Silvergun for one? And I don't care what MS has to do regarding the licensing for PGR 3 and 4 but they absolutely have to be brought over to the backwards compatibility list as they're such an important part of the Xbox game library.

Radiant Silvergun was added to Xbox one BC months ago...
This is one hell of an xbox exclusive to this day.
BubblegumCrisis
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(11-15-2017, 11:02 AM)
with the multiple Koei Tecmo BC releases over the last couple weeks (Ninja Gaiden Black, Tecmo Bowl), hopefully Ninja Gaiden II isn't too far off. I wouldn't expect an One X enhancement patch, but the benefit of a higher framerate could be a revelation in itself.

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