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(07-17-2017, 12:07 AM)

Originally Posted by FearlessBelgian

I cant play Crash Bandicoot and Hitman on this TV , input lag are insane in these games + 34 ms from the tv... :(

No problem with other games...

I played those games on my old TV with 74ms and it was perfectly playable still had no issues, think this is just you not playing well so you blame the TV lol
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(07-17-2017, 12:12 AM)

Originally Posted by henhowc

You forgot to link to include a link to Quantum Apotheosis in the OP ;)

Don't give that homophobic fucker any clicks or even mention him to give attention. A horrible guy.
LegendX48
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(07-17-2017, 12:16 AM)
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Originally Posted by etta

Does smooth gradation negatively affect the image in any way? Can I max it out?

According to rtings it helps with color banding. Likely fine for movies/tv, gaming could be hit or miss.
dEvAnGeL
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(07-17-2017, 03:13 AM)
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Originally Posted by etta

Does smooth gradation negatively affect the image in any way? Can I max it out?

Set it to low, medium or high are to strong and will worsen the IQ greatly.
TheBoss1
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(07-17-2017, 02:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by etta

Does smooth gradation negatively affect the image in any way? Can I max it out?

From the TV thread:

Originally Posted by georaldc

It is such an awesome feature. If you've ever played and beaten FF 15, the smooth gradation option is capable of cleaning up that awful looking final campfire scene. That specific scene looked like garbage on my ks9000, but looks perfectly normal on my w900a with Smooth Gradations even at low (compared by watching the scene through youtube)

Smooth Gradations off


Smooth Gradations set to low

Originally Posted by Paragon

Every 8-bit source will benefit from debanding on a 10-bit display - even if there is no compression at all.
You could think of debanding as "upscaling", but for bit-depth instead of resolution.
Even when displaying a highly compressed 8-bit source on an 8-bit display, debanding still generally improves image quality.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost...postcount=9610
psynergylover
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(07-17-2017, 03:18 PM)
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Will try these when my tv comes tomorrow!!!
TheBoss1
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(07-17-2017, 05:39 PM)
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Originally Posted by henhowc

You forgot to link to include a link to Quantum Apotheosis in the OP ;)

LOL he is super delusional because he really believes what he says.
hitlerat
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(07-18-2017, 03:36 PM)
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CSan Calibration

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG0J5V1tg74

Basically

- Game Mode
- Color 55
- Brightness 30
- Constrast 95
- Local Dimming High, xtend range low
- Temperature : Warm (or Expert 1)
- Smooth Gradation Low
BiGBoSSMk23
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(07-18-2017, 04:07 PM)
Man I hope firmware updates improve my 850D's input response lag.

It was super noticeable coming from a monitor, and greatly affected my performance in multi-player games.
RoadHazard
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(07-18-2017, 04:17 PM)
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Nice, didn't know we had this thread. I'm more or less set on getting the 55". The only thing I don't quite like (except that it's not OLED of course, but I just can't justify spending that much) is that the input lag is a TAD on the high side. Sub-30 would have been nice. I'm coming from a 40W4000, which has ridiculously good input lag for an LCD (around 10ms), so I'm a bit worried it will be noticeable to me.
RoadHazard
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(07-18-2017, 04:21 PM)
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Originally Posted by miller.skippins

I got this tv as well last week. There isn't much to configure for gaming as it plays great out of the box. The only thing is to configure the HDMI settings to high efficiency to use the full bandwidth needed for 4kHDR

The smart TV function ain't the greatest though (chug when I tried to play some high-end 4k sample videos) but I have a Nvidia shield TV for that specific function.

Does the built-in Chromecast do 4K streaming? Does it work well? I see myself using that almost exclusively, and not the actual apps on the TV. Otherwise I guess I'll just have to get a Chromecast Ultra (currently have a V2).
henhowc
(07-18-2017, 07:06 PM)
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curious if anyone has tried both this and the TCL 55p607/605. motion seems weird on the latter and was wondering if it'd feel smoother on the sony (not taking the motion control into account as i don't want SOE).

possibly just me coming from plasma?
psynergylover
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(07-19-2017, 12:42 AM)
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just deliivered to my house and just set is up(put the screws in and what not) what HDMI port does the Ps4 pro go in?
RoadHazard
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(07-19-2017, 01:45 AM)
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Originally Posted by psynergylover

just deliivered to my house and just set is up(put the screws in and what not) what HDMI port does the Ps4 pro go in?

According to Rtings:

Only HDMI inputs 2 and 3 are capable of showing 4k @ 60 Hz @ 4:2:2 or 4:4:4 color, and only when 'HDMI Enhanced Format' is enabled.

http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x900e

So one of those, I'd guess?
LegendX48
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(07-19-2017, 02:02 AM)
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Yep, go with hdmi 2 or 3.
Assanova
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(07-19-2017, 03:58 AM)
What's this I hear about input lag? I just bought one of these today and the review said that it was great for gaming.
Klotera
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(07-19-2017, 04:10 AM)
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Originally Posted by Assanova

What's this I hear about input lag? I just bought one of these today and the review said that it was great for gaming.

Input lag is fine, as long as you're in game mode. It's 34 ms. DisplayLag rates anything below 40 as "Great" (with sub-20 being considered excellent).

I don't have any issue with it on mine having played most of Horizon and a decent bit of Wipeout Omega Collection. I also have a PC with a 144Hz g-sync monitor. So, I'm not saying this without a frame of reference.
LegendX48
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(07-19-2017, 04:13 AM)
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Game mode is 31.5 I thought?
miller.skippins
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(07-19-2017, 04:18 AM)

Originally Posted by RoadHazard

Does the built-in Chromecast do 4K streaming? Does it work well? I see myself using that almost exclusively, and not the actual apps on the TV. Otherwise I guess I'll just have to get a Chromecast Ultra (currently have a V2).

sorry can't try that at the moment as my new house doesn't have any internet at the moment. Will try that tomorrow when my 1gbps fiber internet subscription got activated :P
miller.skippins
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(07-19-2017, 04:19 AM)

Originally Posted by RoadHazard

According to Rtings:



http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x900e

So one of those, I'd guess?

this is correct. Only Port 2 & 3 for 4KHDR
RoadHazard
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(07-19-2017, 04:37 AM)
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Originally Posted by miller.skippins

sorry can't try that at the moment as my new house doesn't have any internet at the moment. Will try that tomorrow when my 1gbps fiber internet subscription got activated :P

Cool, thanks!
Alebelly
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(07-19-2017, 05:14 AM)
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I do like the Reality Creation set to Auto for PS4 Pro and PC games, it helps a lot with the unwanted blur from upscaling. I think it does introduce a bit of lag, so ymmv.

As far as settings, I just use the ones from rtings for Tv Viewing and Gaming, though I've changed from Expert1 to Warm. Just was a tad too brown for me. And I adjusted black level a bit.

Black Level: 45

Auto Local Dimming: Medium

Xtended Range: Low or Off, usually just leave it on Low

2944 x 1656 @ 120hz was the highest I could get the TV to recognize through Nvidia Control Panel. But the 120hz image the Tv produces isn't that great for some reason. Some games do look ok though, like Borderlands 2 and the Pre-Sequel. I recommend just leaving it set to 60hz. Messing with the 120hz + windows 10 + in-game settings, it ended up being a headache that wasn't worth the results.

I just got a Yamaha SRT-700 TV Speaker Base for cheap from Newegg, they had a sale and it was +60% discounted with a code from their email flyer. Definite improvement over the factory TV sound, which I'm not a big fan of.

If anyone could recommend a better controller for the TV, that would be great, thanks!
lantus
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(07-19-2017, 05:19 AM)
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Originally Posted by Alebelly

I do like the Reality Creation set to Auto for PS4 Pro and PC games, it helps a lot with the unwanted blur from upscaling. I think it does introduce a bit of lag, so ymmv.

As far as settings, I just use the ones from rtings for Tv Viewing and Gaming, though I've changed from Expert1 to Warm. Just was a tad too brown for me. And I adjusted black level a bit.

Black Level: 45

Auto Local Dimming: Medium

Xtended Range: Low or Off, usually just leave it on Low

2944 x 1656 @ 120hz was the highest I could get the TV to recognize through Nvidia Control Panel. But the 120hz image the Tv produces isn't that great for some reason. Some games do look ok though, like Borderlands 2 and the Pre-Sequel. I recommend just leaving it set to 60hz. Messing with the 120hz + windows 10 + in-game settings, it ended up being a headache that wasn't worth the results.

I just got a Yamaha SRT-700 TV Speaker Base for cheap from Newegg, they had a sale and it was +60% discounted with a code from their email flyer. Definite improvement over the factory TV sound, which I'm not a big fan of.

If anyone could recommend a better controller for the TV, that would be great, thanks!

Whenever the tv is set to game mode, the Reality Creation settings are always off to reduce the input lag.
Alebelly
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(07-19-2017, 05:26 AM)
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Originally Posted by lantus

Whenever the tv is set to game mode, the Reality Creation settings are always off to reduce the input lag.

no, its still available in game mode
Alebelly
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(07-19-2017, 10:25 AM)
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Originally Posted by hitlerat

Anyone tried Graphics settings on gaming?

rtings says they use a different upscaler between the two, but they both serve as game mode options

I can't tell the difference in IQ, I use both Graphics and Gaming modes, you can have two different setting values and easily switch between the two

native 900p games seem to look particularly rough, though I i've only tried a few
derFeef
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(07-19-2017, 11:14 AM)
Hmm any reason why this TV is not widely available in Europe yet? Even amazon has nothing, only more expensive resellers.
같ToMmY같
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(07-19-2017, 11:29 AM)
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Originally Posted by derFeef

Hmm any reason why this TV is not widely available in Europe yet? Even amazon has nothing, only more expensive resellers.

In Europee it has a different name.

Xe90 I think
derFeef
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(07-19-2017, 11:32 AM)

Originally Posted by 같ToMmY같

In Europee it has a different name.

Xe90 I think

I know, it's KD49XE9005 for the 49" for example. But still, I can only find a few retailers in Germany and none in Austria.
chromatic9
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(07-19-2017, 11:32 AM)
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Originally Posted by derFeef

Hmm any reason why this TV is not widely available in Europe yet? Even amazon has nothing, only more expensive resellers.

Are you sure you're using 55xe9005 rather than finding the odd seller using the US name of X900E?

https://www.amazon.fr/s/ref=nb_sb_no...2Ck%3A55xe9005

https://www.amazon.de/Sony-KD-55XE90...words=55xe9005

Here in England, Amazon, Currys/Pcworld, Richer Sounds, John Lewis, Sevenoaks and about 20 more electrical stores have it. Everywhere here.
같ToMmY같
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(07-19-2017, 11:34 AM)
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Originally Posted by derFeef

I know, it's KD49XE9005 for the 49" for example. But still, I can only find a few retailers in Germany and none in Austria.

Here in italy I can find it easily, I think you could try on the sony store if it's available. Maybe Amazon.de ran out of them...
miller.skippins
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(07-19-2017, 11:36 AM)

Originally Posted by derFeef

Hmm any reason why this TV is not widely available in Europe yet? Even amazon has nothing, only more expensive resellers.

to add on for my southeast Asian brethren, this tv is known as Sony Bravia KD49X9000E in South East Asia to avoid any confusion.

Still don't understand why the need to give slightly varied model names to each region for essentially the same thing.
Ricker
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(07-19-2017, 02:47 PM)
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I am interested in this set, at Best Buy it seems to go down in price quite often,its on sale right now for 1,900(CAD),which is not so bad...going to keep checking on it until I decide.It's definetly not until the X1X comes out anyway so I still have a few months.

But something I am wondering,when you guys say you have to crank the brightness to Max for HDR,this could be annoying if I have to swicth it back for normal TV viewing or Netflix etc etc everytime...
TheBoss1
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(07-19-2017, 03:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by Ricker

I am interested in this set, at Best Buy it seems to go down in price quite often,its on sale right now for 1,900(CAD),which is not so bad...going to keep checking on it until I decide.It's definetly not until the X1X comes out anyway so I still have a few months.

But something I am wondering,when you guys say you have to crank the brightness to Max for HDR,this could be annoying if I have to swicth it back for normal TV viewing or Netflix etc etc everytime...

I think it switches picture settings automatically so you don't have to adjust settings every time. One for normal viewing, and one for HDR viewing.
RoadHazard
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(07-19-2017, 04:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by derFeef

Hmm any reason why this TV is not widely available in Europe yet? Even amazon has nothing, only more expensive resellers.

Odd, here in Sweden it seems rather widely available. Here's a list of retailers for the 55": https://www.prisjakt.nu/produkt.php?p=4141735
Ricker
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(07-19-2017, 04:38 PM)
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Originally Posted by TheBoss1

I think it switches picture settings automatically so you don't have to adjust settings every time. One for normal viewing, and one for HDR viewing.

That would be ideal...now I have to start looking for an A/V receiver that accepts HDR and 4K,my current Yamaha doesnt.
LegendX48
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(07-19-2017, 10:04 PM)
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I don't suppose there's a way to set the tv to automatically turn local dimming on/off. Kind of annoying to constantly have to turn it off when I'm not watching/playing hdr stuff.
Dr. Kitty Muffins
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(07-19-2017, 10:13 PM)
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I grabbed the 49 inch version back in March. It's a spectacular experience.
sneaky77
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(07-19-2017, 10:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by RoadHazard

Does the built-in Chromecast do 4K streaming? Does it work well? I see myself using that almost exclusively, and not the actual apps on the TV. Otherwise I guess I'll just have to get a Chromecast Ultra (currently have a V2).

Yeah it does, you can do hdr from the built in Netflix app
henhowc
(07-19-2017, 10:25 PM)
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Originally Posted by TheBoss1

LOL he is super delusional because he really believes what he says.

lol i just thought he was a super enthusiastic sony fanboy or something but dude definitely seems delusional. he's posted videos where he's calling out rtings
DieH@rd
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(07-19-2017, 10:28 PM)
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Whenever I search for X900E on YT, results are always filled with Quantum Apotheosis vs OLEDTvMasterRace feud videos about this TV. 😁
TheBoss1
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(07-19-2017, 10:37 PM)
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lol
Formosa
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(07-19-2017, 10:54 PM)
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Alebelly
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(07-19-2017, 11:23 PM)
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Originally Posted by Dr. Kitty Muffins

I grabbed the 49 inch version back in March. It's a spectacular experience.

it's not perfect, but it is a damn fine Tv
Proteus
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(07-19-2017, 11:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by hitlerat

CSan Calibration

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG0J5V1tg74

Basically

- Game Mode
- Color 55
- Brightness 30
- Constrast 95
- Local Dimming High, xtend range low
- Temperature : Warm (or Expert 1)
- Smooth Gradation Low

Can anyone vouch for CScan? I am thinking of trying these.
LegendX48
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(07-20-2017, 06:58 AM)
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should auto local dimming be on high or medium? I've been using high for 4k blu-rays and hdr games
Hackbert
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(07-20-2017, 12:24 PM)
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I got the 55" Last friday. Great TV, gut i need to Tinker with the settings. And goddamn the Startup process is Slow. I Like Android and the possibilities , Like using a vpn App in the Background...but i guess the RAM is to Small. Nevertheless Happy with it and the screen
henhowc
(07-20-2017, 06:42 PM)
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Originally Posted by Hackbert

I got the 55" Last friday. Great TV, gut i need to Tinker with the settings. And goddamn the Startup process is Slow. I Like Android and the possibilities , Like using a vpn App in the Background...but i guess the RAM is to Small. Nevertheless Happy with it and the screen

i read that if you disable some of those sony apps it speeds things up a lot
Hackbert
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(07-20-2017, 06:51 PM)
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Mhhh thanks for the tipp . Will try Tod read Up about it
Klotera
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(07-20-2017, 07:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by henhowc

i read that if you disable some of those sony apps it speeds things up a lot

Yeah, I got rid of the Sony Shelf (it was annoying anyway). The last firmware update also seemed to help performance quite a bit.

A tip I'd give to really help is to fully close apps when you're done with then. If you press and hold home, it brings up the app switcher. You can then go to an app kill apps by pressing down to move them to the x icon below them. This way, you won't have a bunch of processes hanging in the background. I just make it a habit to do this whenever I'm leaving an app.
Ushay
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(07-20-2017, 07:46 PM)
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Subscribed, for settings when I get this set in a few months.

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