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solis74
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(11-11-2017, 02:38 PM)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LaSOJ4aeNY
Sosokrates
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(11-11-2017, 02:51 PM)
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Great for 1X Owners.
The $100 price difference over the pro is definitely showing a more premium experience over the pro.
entremet
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(11-11-2017, 02:56 PM)
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Is John (Dark10x) not posting here anymore? I haven't seen him around. I do see him on ERA.
PsihoPerihelion
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(11-11-2017, 02:58 PM)
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Great difference. I'll buy it again once I switch to X, even if I already finished the game on Pro.

Originally Posted by entremet

Is John (Dark10x) not posting here anymore? I haven't seen him around. I do see him on ERA.

He doesn't. No need to say why lol
b0bbyJ03
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(11-11-2017, 03:15 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sosokrates

Great for 1X Owners.
The $100 price difference over the pro is definitely showing a more premium experience over the pro.

That and the 1 year of advances. Iím not an X owner but I saw it at a friends. Graphics look great on a 4K TV. I was impressed
Bigby_Wolf
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(11-11-2017, 03:16 PM)
X with the ground and pound on Pro.

Ya know, the Pro might have worked out ok if they had adopted a few more features the way MSFT is handling the refreshed system (downsampling on every title, for instance) and if they had gone with 12 Gigs of ram, too.
MaximusPayne
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(11-11-2017, 03:22 PM)
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VoodooProject
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(11-11-2017, 03:28 PM)
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Double the pixal count compared to the Ps4pro ! That is huge. Plus 4k 60fps on the X. What a beast!
meirl
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(11-11-2017, 03:31 PM)
Hell yeah. TRUE NEXTGEN started. Wow. Such a HUGE difference.
Lemondish
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(11-11-2017, 03:32 PM)
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Originally Posted by meirl

Hell yeah. TRUE NEXTGEN started. Wow. Such a HUGE difference.

Seems hyperbolic to me. It honestly doesn't impress me the way an actual generation change does.
LOUD915
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(11-11-2017, 03:33 PM)
We are getting to the point where I really can't notice much of a difference.

I'm perfectly happy with my 1080P Samsung Plasma.

Just get everything running at 60fps and I"m happy.
Oemenia
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(11-11-2017, 03:35 PM)
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The real reason why so many users left!
Nikana
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(11-11-2017, 03:40 PM)
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Impressive shown piece.

(I really don't like this game. Gameplay isn't very good. Which makes me sad because I loved the first one.)
BigTnaples
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(11-11-2017, 03:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by LOUD915

We are getting to the point where I really can't notice much of a difference.

I'm perfectly happy with my 1080P Samsung Plasma.

Just get everything running at 60fps and I"m happy.


It's because you don't know any better.


If you had a 4K HDR display and got used to that, going back to your 1080p TV will make you want to vomit.
Syrus
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(11-11-2017, 03:40 PM)

Originally Posted by PsihoPerihelion

Great difference. I'll buy it again once I switch to X, even if I already finished the game on Pro.


He doesn't. No need to say why lol


Hes on Reset Era now

Dark1x now i think
Mr Moose
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(11-11-2017, 03:41 PM)
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A Bethesda game better on an Xbox machine? Shocking. (Obviously it should, but by that much? Yeahhh... No. Just like TEW2 @ 1260p on Pro).

Originally Posted by LOUD915

We are getting to the point where I really can't notice much of a difference.

I'm perfectly happy with my 1080P Samsung Plasma.

Just get everything running at 60fps and I"m happy.

4K games looks great on 4K screens (+HDR is sweet). XBOX is a great upgrade over One (S) if you have a 4K screen.
Nikana
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(11-11-2017, 03:43 PM)
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Originally Posted by LOUD915

We are getting to the point where I really can't notice much of a difference.

I'm perfectly happy with my 1080P Samsung Plasma.

Just get everything running at 60fps and I"m happy.

Gotta keep YouTube compression in mind.
Cr1ptkeeper
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(11-11-2017, 03:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by meirl

Hell yeah. TRUE NEXTGEN started. Wow. Such a HUGE difference.

What a dissapointment nextgen is then, I thought nextgen would include a graphics upgrade and VR...
Leviticus
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(11-11-2017, 03:51 PM)
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I was actually watching this comparison video on my 4k TV and have to say that we are now entering the realms of diminishing returns when comparing 2052p to 1440p content. This becomes apparent as we now need to use a zoom to spot the differences. We would not need a zoom to tell 1080p from 720p.

While Wolfenstein on the X looks superior when zoomed in, the difference is not as dramatic as the narrator suggests. But I'm happy for all Xowners, anything below 1080p is just not acceptable anymore.
SenkiDala
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(11-11-2017, 03:51 PM)
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Well, if that's considered to be a "big leap" then I'm perfectly fine with my PS4 Pro and won't ever need a XOX. I barely see the difference.
Nikana
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(11-11-2017, 03:53 PM)
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Gonna say it again, gotta keep YouTube compression in mind lol. It really makes a huge difference.
rokkerkory
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(11-11-2017, 03:53 PM)
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Double the performance holy cow.
Leviticus
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(11-11-2017, 03:55 PM)
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Originally Posted by Nikana

Gonna say it again, gotta keep YouTube compression in mind lol. It really makes a huge difference.

Does DigitalFoundry offers users to download their videos?
munroe
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(11-11-2017, 03:57 PM)
Those claiming little to no difference, how are you watching the videos? Because if you're only watching on a mobile device at max 1080p then yeah you will barely notice a difference
primasaurus
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(11-11-2017, 04:00 PM)
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Originally Posted by BigTnaples

It's because you don't know any better.


If you had a 4K HDR display and got used to that, going back to your 1080p TV will make you want to vomit.

So what's the lesson? Stay humble and enjoy what you have, or aspire for more and never be content for long
Snake29
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(11-11-2017, 04:03 PM)
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Originally Posted by SenkiDala

Well, if that's considered to be a "big leap" then I'm perfectly fine with my PS4 Pro and won't ever need a XOX. I barely see the difference.

Because they still have that Xbox One/S image in their heads.
Nikana
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(11-11-2017, 04:04 PM)
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Originally Posted by Leviticus

Does DigitalFoundry offers users to download their videos?

If you are on their patreon (spelling)

They offer uncompressed there. Big difference in quality.
rokkerkory
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(11-11-2017, 04:05 PM)
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Originally Posted by SenkiDala

Well, if that's considered to be a "big leap" then I'm perfectly fine with my PS4 Pro and won't ever need a XOX. I barely see the difference.

Oh then ull never need a ps5 then too?
Snake29
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(11-11-2017, 04:06 PM)
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Originally Posted by rokkerkory

Oh then ull never need a ps5 then too?

For Pro users, it's really not that big to jump over. Hell why would they with all those games coming in 2018.
Coulomb_Barrier
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(11-11-2017, 04:07 PM)
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How much is MS paying DF for this barrage of XB1X content? very other day it seems they are posting something related. Seems fishy to me.
dcb2821
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(11-11-2017, 04:09 PM)
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Originally Posted by Coulomb_Barrier

How much is MS paying DF for this barrage of XB1X content? very other day it seems they are posting something related. Seems fishy to me.

Are you joking? A new console just released, of course they are going to have a lot of content and comparisons
solis74
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(11-11-2017, 04:09 PM)

Originally Posted by rokkerkory

Double the performance holy cow.

X! :)
rokkerkory
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(11-11-2017, 04:11 PM)
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Originally Posted by Snake29

For Pro users, it's really not that big to jump over. Hell why would they with all those games coming in 2018.

Double the IQ and double the performance sometimes even more isnt that big? Haha

You arent even trying to be objective here.
Nikana
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(11-11-2017, 04:13 PM)
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Originally Posted by Coulomb_Barrier

How much is MS paying DF for this barrage of XB1X content? very other day it seems they are posting something related. Seems fishy to me.

Lol
Riiighhttttt
PsihoPerihelion
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(11-11-2017, 04:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by rokkerkory

Double the performance holy cow.

What do you mean by double the performance?
Snake29
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(11-11-2017, 04:22 PM)
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Originally Posted by rokkerkory

Double the IQ and double the performance sometimes even more isnt that big? Haha

You arent even trying to be objective here.

Performance was the same, and even sometimes more constant on Pro. Yes with a lower res (1440p), but still much higher then 1080p. Graphics difference at first place is not huge. We still have to zoom in to see some little differences. Some of you guy really think the Pro is Xbox On quality vs One X, because THAT'S huge.

Imo, they need to convince Xbox One players and not PS4 Pro player to buy an One X.
GC_DALBEN
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(11-11-2017, 04:37 PM)
Pretty cool, i need this and a new tv ;( .
Space_nut
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(11-11-2017, 04:37 PM)
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Significant improvements over pro :)

Xbox One X is a BEAST

DOUBLE the pixel res count!!
Matches closely to PC highest settings on a 1080ti!!
Better shading effects over pro

Wasn't this using fp16 ;)
Sosokrates
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(11-11-2017, 04:40 PM)
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Originally Posted by Coulomb_Barrier

How much is MS paying DF for this barrage of XB1X content? very other day it seems they are posting something related. Seems fishy to me.

Funny you mention that because sony did pay DF to do this horizon zero dawn analysis

https://youtu.be/Uyi1gNwYk8k

So if Ms were paying DF, DF would say so like they did with sony on Horizon zero dawn.
Formula12
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(11-11-2017, 04:43 PM)
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I prefer if developers concentrated on buffing the graphical quality of the game. I prefer my game to be gorgeous.
Phatosaurus
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(11-11-2017, 04:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by Coulomb_Barrier

How much is MS paying DF for this barrage of XB1X content? very other day it seems they are posting something related. Seems fishy to me.

Regardless of if they're being paid or not, it's a new console and console graphical comparisons and performance analysis are DF's breed and butter.

You expect them to not do the thing they're most known for?
pixelbox
(11-11-2017, 04:45 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sosokrates

Funny you mention that because sony did pay DF to do this horizon zero dawn analysis

https://youtu.be/Uyi1gNwYk8k

I see that they are mercenaries. And they even stated Sony claimed pro to be a 4k machine when that was never the case. As stated at era there's a cap on pro at 1440P which is conveniently absent in the analysis.
Remij
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(11-11-2017, 05:01 PM)
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Originally Posted by pixelbox

I see that they are mercenaries. And they even stated Sony claimed pro to be a 4k machine when that was never the case. As stated at era there's a cap on pro at 1440P which is conveniently absent in the analysis.

How does there being a cap change anything? That's the highest it goes. You could say there's a 2160p cap on the X version.. makes no difference. They speak about the resolution in many varying circumstances. So yea.
Sosokrates
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(11-11-2017, 05:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by pixelbox

I see that they are mercenaries. And they even stated Sony claimed pro to be a 4k machine when that was never the case. As stated at era there's a cap on pro at 1440P which is conveniently absent in the analysis.

What?? Df do mention that 1440p is the highest the pro goes.
Douche McBaggins The 3rd
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(11-11-2017, 05:18 PM)
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Originally Posted by meirl

Hell yeah. TRUE NEXTGEN started. Wow. Such a HUGE difference.

Xbox is essentially the dreamcast upgrade looks great now, but will pale once true next gen comes. That I can't wait for. Plus micosoft doesnt have exclusive shit unlike sega or sony. So nahhh I'm good for now. Surge protect me xbox
Darkness
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(11-11-2017, 05:41 PM)
Maybe it is just Youtube, but I am watching this in 4k mode on a 4k/HDR TV and I don't see a huge difference. The XB1X version does look a little nicer though.
Tomeru
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(11-11-2017, 05:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by rokkerkory

Double the performance holy cow.

What are you talking about? It's only a res difference no? Both running 60fps most of the time.
Ubername
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(11-11-2017, 05:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by Lemondish

Seems hyperbolic to me. It honestly doesn't impress me the way an actual generation change does.

Yeah not even close to what I felt from something like Dead Rising on a crt. It's like you got a new monitor and bumped up the res
Space_nut
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(11-11-2017, 05:57 PM)
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Originally Posted by Tomeru

What are you talking about? It's only a res difference no? Both running 60fps most of the time.

Double the pixel output is double the performance to render in that res
valkyre
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(11-11-2017, 05:59 PM)
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Are we at a point where we have to zoom in at 600% to notice the gulf between the 2 machines?

That is not to say that you cant tell the X is going to be sharper and cleaner than the Pro but those DF comparisons where they zoom in at a photo 600% to show a bottle saying "medicine" is something that I bet nobody will be able to read while playing the game.

Yes the game is better on X but that whole gulf thing sounds hyperbolic, unless people play on 60+ inch TVs standing 1 foot away.

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