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Fuz
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(11-13-2017, 07:35 PM)
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Originally Posted by ロキー

If only Reddit was EA's biggest demographic for sales. Hopefully people will wise up with the bullshit they're pulling.

I think most of the responsibility will fall on the shoulders of the gaming press.
Are they gonna do as they did for da2 and sow, or are they gonna denounce the fact and give votes accordingly?
Northeastmonk
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(11-13-2017, 07:39 PM)
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Locking Vader is really a waste of time. It shows how poorly they understand the excitement of video games.

I don't want to wait 40 hours to unlock Ryu or Ken in Street Fighter. That's like locking Sonic in Sonic Mania. Force me to beat the game 10 or more times as Tails in order to unlock Sonic.

There's talent in making games, but they really don't understand what people want. They've lost their touch.

Modern day games love hand holding and now they want to block content for really dumb reasons.

I can't believe they shut down Visceral and let this happen. The dream must be dead and this is why.
WaterAstro
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(11-13-2017, 07:42 PM)
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Pay to be a Hero

Originally Posted by Fuz

Let's hope the wallets follow the downvotes.


Also, this is quite important to know as consumers:
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBat...tell_you_what/

Always got this pic ready.

wolgoen
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(11-13-2017, 07:45 PM)
EA have the monopoly and they donít give a ****.

They could make a real turd game, slap Star Wars on the front and still make lots of $$$. Rinse and repeat every year, itís a formula that will never fail.

Unfortunately - or fortunately, depending on which way you see the situation - the base game is probably very good but itís tarnished by their money grabbing practices.

SW BF 3 will be exactly the same. And 4, and 5 and any other game they slap SW on.
Basketball
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(11-13-2017, 07:53 PM)
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But you already bought the game

Soooooo
keraj37
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(11-13-2017, 07:54 PM)
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Originally Posted by WaterAstro

Pay to be a Hero



Always got this pic ready.

All this talk made me buy Elite Troop Edition right now :(
EventHorizon
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(11-13-2017, 08:36 PM)
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Originally Posted by Basketball

But you already bought the game

Soooooo

EA's stock price is banking on not only large initial sales of Battlefront II, but ongoing microtransaction payments like FIFA gets. If public sentiment turns against Battlefront II and its online play dries up in response to the grind, EA and their stock will notice.
Bookoo
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(11-13-2017, 08:39 PM)

Originally Posted by EuropeOG

And what would be an acceptable amount of time? Average player would take 40 hours to save up credits to unlock it and that's without using anything to unlock other things. Seems like a ridiculous amount of time... People should buy lootboxes to speed up progress... Wait a minute.

The time commitment doesn't seem like that bad to me, but I am not familiar with the balance of these characters in the game.

I know in BF1 they were overpowered, but they were special pickups.
Chitown B
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(11-13-2017, 08:41 PM)
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Originally Posted by Chitown B

sadly the execs do not care. As long as the bottom line is good, if they piss off some customers while making enough money off of the others, and the whales, they're fine with it. they'll give lip service, but nothing is going to change. It's only going to get worse.

Originally Posted by Fuz

Let's hope the wallets follow the downvotes.


Also, this is quite important to know as consumers:
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsBat...tell_you_what/

"This means that one or two days (or weeks or months) of complaining will not get them to change their mind regarding the nature of the progression system. They will not truly "fix" it because they believe that it's working as intended and their accountants and marketing guys will tell them that it is. A certain amount of players are supposed to get sick of it and stop playing. That's built-in to the calculations, like when Wal-Mart assumes that there will be a certain amount of shoplifting."

Yup
LOLCats
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(11-13-2017, 09:18 PM)
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-417,000

when the next closest was a guy asking for downvotes at -25,000

EA Must be so happy with themselves.
Blam
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(11-13-2017, 09:20 PM)
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Originally Posted by LOLCats

-417,000

when the next closest was a guy asking for downvotes at -25,000

EA Must be so happy with themselves.

Yeah their 16 times lower then the lowest comment that's an accomplishment.
mackattk
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(11-13-2017, 09:29 PM)
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400k+ downvotes..

but has 41 months of reddit gold. so that's not bad.
Fbh
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(11-13-2017, 09:32 PM)
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Just saw a local gaming site post about this on Facebook and literally everyone in the comments was defending the game:

"Modern gamers want everything to be handed to them, that's why modern games are so easy"

"Lol people like to complain about everything, god forbid you have to actually work to get the better skills and heroes"

"There's already like 8 heroes unlocked from the start so this isn't an issue"


In the end we are sadly in the minority. For every 300.000 upset about this there are 3000000 who couldn't care less.
StrategyFan
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(11-13-2017, 09:34 PM)
funny thing is that this isn't what downvotes were supposed to be for
Ichabod
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(11-13-2017, 09:34 PM)
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Buncha armchair downvoters on this internet
i-Lo
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(11-13-2017, 09:39 PM)
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Cancelled my discounted preorder today. Gotta put money where the mouth is.
AvenueWinning
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(11-13-2017, 09:40 PM)
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The best guns in COD have been locked at lv 40+ caps for years just saying...
Fbh
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(11-13-2017, 09:44 PM)
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Originally Posted by AvenueWinning

The best guns in COD have been locked at lv 40+ caps for years just saying...

But reaching max lv in COD takes like, what? 30 hours?.

That's not even one hero in Battlefront 2
Aselith
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(11-13-2017, 09:47 PM)
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Originally Posted by Sanke__

I like how they tried to hide the real bullshit behind loot crate pseudo controversy

This hero unlock shit is so unsurprisingly similar to galaxy of heroes

Fuck EA

This might be the first year they would actually deserve worst company in America



The problem is that only one person can be each hero at a time so the person with the expensive heroes will likely be a hero the entire game (blatant example of pay to win)

Actually GoH is pretty generous with free heroes and free stuff. I would say BF2 manages to be boty greedier on the front and back end.
EDarkness
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(11-13-2017, 09:58 PM)
Probably doesn't mean anything, but I threw in a downvote also. I hope people do the right thing and vote with their wallet, because all the downvoting in the world won't mean anything if folks are still playing the game and spending money.
SmoothRunningGun
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(11-13-2017, 10:12 PM)
Y'all wanted free dlc. This is the price.
SmoothRunningGun
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(11-13-2017, 10:15 PM)

Originally Posted by LOLCats

-417,000

when the next closest was a guy asking for downvotes at -25,000

EA Must be so happy with themselves.

When they sell 15mil copies they won't give a fuck.
pikablu
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(11-13-2017, 10:16 PM)
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I just did my part and downvoted as well.
Weevilone
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(11-13-2017, 10:19 PM)
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So I have this preordered twice (PC and Xbox) b/c I didn't know where I wanted to play. It was -20% GCU and -$10 each BB gift certs, so ~$38 each.

But I could cancel one and still be sticking it to the man, right?

Oh well the grind would make it impossible to jump back and forth between platforms anyways. Thanks EA!
hesho
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(11-13-2017, 10:49 PM)

Originally Posted by Rhetorical Question

Well, it's not only the gaming, it affects anything that surrounds us. As soon as the transformation with everything as a service is complete, you're going to pay for everything you can't even imagine yet.

you are missing my point though. The consumer is willing to spend money on this kind of junk so it is getting more and more common.

It is no different when dlc first started out. Remember how all the developers used to say they would never cut content out for dlc... does anyone still believe that? The consumer was more then willing to spend money so of course companies would release even more dlc then. Its no different with loot boxes, the consumer was willing to spend money on it they companies keep stuffing it in our face.

i always wondered what would happened if ppl straight up refused to buy the first dlc's during the last console gen.

the sad part of all this, you know the game will sell 1+million copies as well..
Alan-GAF
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(11-13-2017, 10:50 PM)
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The details on this game seem to be getting worse by the hour!

My copy is going to be returned for a full refund, I was too late to stop the order from being processed.
Nikana
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(11-13-2017, 10:51 PM)
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They reduced the cost of heroes by 75 percent lol. Guess it worked.
mackattk
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(11-13-2017, 10:52 PM)
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Hopefully people don't sell out to the 75% thing.
Woo-Fu
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(11-13-2017, 10:58 PM)
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Still pay to win, which is what this thread is about.
pikablu
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(11-13-2017, 11:13 PM)
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How about they fix it to the number they had when it was REVIEWED by press?
Chitown B
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(11-13-2017, 11:14 PM)
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Originally Posted by jshackles



Yep, sounds about right

"Accordingly, I will guarantee this: They will "make changes" with a day 1 patch. That much is obvious, but specifically, the changes they make will be based around reducing the cost of heroes and loot boxes"
Falchion
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(11-14-2017, 03:06 AM)
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It deserved criticism. I expect now that they've revised the credits most people will buy it even if there's other problems.
sublime14
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(11-14-2017, 05:20 AM)
can someone answer this for me, i never really pre order games anymore but i really want to play this game tonight if i pre order the physical copy of the deluxe game on amazon, (got a gift card) how do you play 3 days early do you get a code to download or do you have to wait until you have the copy in hand? a little confused lol

thanks!
Lucumo
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(11-14-2017, 05:29 AM)
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Originally Posted by Ichabod

Buncha armchair downvoters on this internet

Well, it's definitely as stupid, if not more, as Facebook likes.
GobFather
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(11-14-2017, 05:37 AM)
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Originally Posted by Fbh

But reaching max lv in COD takes like, what? 30 hours?.

That's not even one hero in Battlefront 2

Hmmm good point. How many heros are there and whatís the approx time it would take to unlock them all?havent really paid any attention till now. Thanks in advance
Hinedorf
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(11-14-2017, 05:50 AM)
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It feels more like an admission of guilt rather than a responding to a negative reaction.

And this is how it feels: "We know we're really gouging you, so here's 25% off credits on Jar Jar Binx"

I'm 35 and I've gamed my whole life and I pretty much wont buy a Capcom, EA,or UBI game anymore.

SF5 will be the last Capcom game I ever buy, obvious reasons.
For Honor is one of the coolest concepts ever, UBI went cheap on the servers and blew it
The last Star Wars Battlefront game is why I'm done buying EA games

That's not to say I wont be playing them, but these companies will not be getting my money anymore until they stop putting half their products behind season passes and P2W systems.
Spukc
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(11-14-2017, 05:52 AM)
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Originally Posted by Hinedorf

It feels more like an admission of guilt rather than a responding to a negative reaction.

And this is how it feels: "We know we're really gouging you, so here's 25% off credits on Jar Jar Binx"

I'm 35 and I've gamed my whole life and I pretty much wont buy a Capcom, EA,or UBI game anymore.


That's not to say I wont be playing them, but these companies will not be getting my money anymore until they stop putting half their products behind season passes and P2W systems.

Pretty spot on.
However monster hunter is still great.
bakedcrisps
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(11-14-2017, 05:57 AM)
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Originally Posted by sublime14

can someone answer this for me, i never really pre order games anymore but i really want to play this game tonight if i pre order the physical copy of the deluxe game on amazon, (got a gift card) how do you play 3 days early do you get a code to download or do you have to wait until you have the copy in hand? a little confused lol

thanks!

If you preorder it digitally you can play it tonight, but if you order the physical copy of the deluxe edition you have to wait until you have in in hand.
down 2 orth
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(11-14-2017, 06:02 AM)
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Originally Posted by jshackles



Yep, sounds about right

Well that's some bullshit.
llien
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(11-14-2017, 10:19 AM)
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PS
But, actually, how different is it from what I could buy in TF2? (upgraded weaps)
Bar the fact, that it is free to play.
Afa
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(11-14-2017, 12:12 PM)
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Originally Posted by jshackles



Yep, sounds about right

"Based on what we've seen in the trial"

Sssuuuurreee it was.
Still so arrogantly dishonest.
Sad Affleck
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(11-14-2017, 12:50 PM)
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The golden poo will be theirs again, it's a lock.
Water
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(11-14-2017, 12:52 PM)
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Originally Posted by Afa

"Based on what we've seen in the trial"

Sssuuuurreee it was.
Still so arrogantly dishonest.

Yep, as if they wouldn't know exactly how many hours of play it's estimated to take to unlock the heroes. They even know how many calendar days, that's half of the reason why XP gating mechanisms exist at all.
Cpt Lmao
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(11-14-2017, 02:35 PM)

Originally Posted by family_guy

Probably going to be like this:

Omg I was literally thinking about this. It pisses me off how incompetent gamers are with regards to voting with their wallets. Fucking useless.
CadetMahoney
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(11-14-2017, 05:33 PM)
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Originally Posted by Northeastmonk

I don't want to wait 40 hours to unlock Ryu or Ken in Street Fighter.

2012 me would find this hilarious



Nowadays I am increasingly nervous man.
BigDaddyDavee
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(11-14-2017, 06:53 PM)
Speaking as a former, heavy purchaser of games I am a lot more rational and tactical around buying games. This is exactly the reason that I am the way that I am now.

I'll do the same as I did with Battlefront 1. I'll wait until it is £6 all in digitally. Don't get me wrong, it looks like a good game and very good eye candy but bollocks to all of the micro purchase shenanigans.
Don Lapre
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(11-14-2017, 06:56 PM)

Originally Posted by AvenueWinning

The best guns in COD have been locked at lv 40+ caps for years just saying...

Imagine if it took you 40 hours to get every gun in cod, like 40 hours per gun
Velius
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(11-14-2017, 07:11 PM)
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Good god it's almost at 700k downvotes.

Can you imagine what could happen if people actually followed through with their anger?

Imagine if all 700 thousand people there, and anyone else out here who is dissatisfied with that game, truly refused to buy it?

It would send a clear message to EA. They would change their production structure very, very quickly.

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