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China Central Bank orders Banks to stop doing business with North Korea
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Gentleman Jack
Member
The Chinese (particularly under Xi) execute business owners who break the law and get caught, so I'd expect this order to be taken pretty seriously.
demosthenes
Member
It will help. The biggest piece will be China to stop buying their coal.
Nomadic Sparks
Banned
Not necessary a killing blow but it would mortally wound NK
shira
Member
You know there will always be a backdoor for the right price.
shnurgleton
Member
Wow. Is Xi actually taking the NK threat seriously?
BackLogJoe
Member
So the world is calling their bluff.
Your move now NK.
Your move now NK.
Chairmanchuck
Member
He already stopped shipping coals to NK 2 or 3 months ago.
Fenderputty
Banned
I would imagine he feels it's reaching a breaking point. They either do something to deal with NK now or they deal with the impending war on their border.
The Living Tribunal
Member
This is pretty much a fatal blow to NKs economy.
super-heated plasma
Member
My God, did this administration actually do something right?
Smokey_Run
Member
They get left holding the bag of shit if NK does something stupid.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
You like my hot takes now? Haha 
dolabla
Member
Yes, definitely. It will be pretty much squeezing the life out of them. This is a huge deal.
Nomadic Sparks
Banned
Don't be too shocked if NK retaliates
Xi doesn't give a shit about NK having nukes.
Xi doesn't give a shit about NK dickwaving with Trump.
Xi DOES care about NK giving Japan (specifically Abe's party) a solid reason to rewrite their Constitution and allow for a full military.
Japan with a full military (not a limited defensive military) would be a challenge to Chinese regional rule.
NK is setting the region on the path to making that happen.
It's better to get NK in line than potentially have to deal with a nuclear war on the border and millions of refugees.
+ the post above
demosthenes
Member
I think this is accurate, though I doubt China wants NK to have nukes.
Retaliates against China? That would be a pretty dumb thing to do. China remains as close to an ally as NK has even with this move. Burning that bridge would be monumentally dumb.
BoboBrazil
Member
A cornered Jong Un will launch missiles to hit a country if he has nothing to lose. These sanctions could end up really badly for SK or Japan's population.
Them having nukes is basically what is starting everything though
efyu_lemonardo
May I have a cookie?
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Fenderputty
Banned
Highly doubt this isn't part of his calculus.
It's not the nukes. It's threatening Guam and flying ICBM's over Japan.
Unintentionally.
They forced China to finally deal with North Korea else face a larger US presence in Japan and Korea.
NYCmetsfan
Banned
this does absolutely nothing to stop their missile and nuclear program
what this does show, IMO is china's real fear that Trump will start a war and chinese attempts to try to ratched down tensions.
my strong strong suspicion is NK will test a few more missiles to get their deterrence up and then strongly advocate for talks and unilaterally freeze. (I also strongly fear and suspect strong chinese-ROK ties building as a counterbalance to Japanese-US pro military action positions)
what this does show, IMO is china's real fear that Trump will start a war and chinese attempts to try to ratched down tensions.
my strong strong suspicion is NK will test a few more missiles to get their deterrence up and then strongly advocate for talks and unilaterally freeze. (I also strongly fear and suspect strong chinese-ROK ties building as a counterbalance to Japanese-US pro military action positions)
vonStirlitz
Unconfirmed Member
And not happy about SK missile defence as well. Makes it harder to moan about his neighbours tooling up, when there are legitimate reasons to do so.
However, there are also other factors at play. SK and Jap are one of many reasons, and not necessarily key calculations here.
Head of Vengarl
Banned
To: China
From: pxleyes
For real. I'm intrigued.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Nothing to lose? He has his country to lose.
Electric Eye
Banned
Meanwhile Russia is skirting the sanctions and continues to sell NK fuel. Wonder if they will also change course.
SuperBanana
Banned
Russia want NK to piss off America and destabilize the region so no, they won't.
This administration couldn't put together a half-decent subway sandwich. China is trying to fix their mistake of escalating tensions since a war/regime collapse will cause them (China) the brunt of the consequences either outcome would result in i.e. a humanitarian crisis that dwarfs Syria and a potential power vacuum.
NYCmetsfan
Banned
yup NK is actively impeding chinese ability to assert power in North East Asia
NK isn't going to launch missiles over sanctions
vonStirlitz
Unconfirmed Member
Why legitimate US sanctions when one is the subject of them oneself?
There are a lot of factors at play, but the biggest one is that North Korea's actions (and Kim Jong-un's in particular) have been ticking off China. And this is largely independent of what they're doing to rile up Japan and the US, as the most egregious act to date was the assassination of Kim Jong-un's brother.
Is a japanese military force really a big threat for China? I guess that after all this years they are still way behind their full potential, and even then, I dont know if a country with way density and labd could be a threat to one of the most powerful countries in the world
GameAddict411
Member
I seriously doubt that China has been happy about what's been going on with NK. If a war breaks out with the US, China will suffer from great loses and even maybe nuclear fallout. Another big thing is off course a refugee crisis that make the Syrian war look like child's play. China is the only country that has the influence and power to stop NK without the whole region turning into shit.
vonStirlitz
Unconfirmed Member
If you subscribe to the theory that Trump would provoke a war in order to deflect from the Mueller investigation, then it is plausible that Rocket Man might provoke a war to avoid the risk of a coup, if that was a possible outcome of tightening sanctions and economic paucity.
Just food for thought, but you have to consider every angle.
George Washington
Member
Good
I agree. I have a feeling that Japanese government don't do anything at all is part of the plan. They are pushing their people ( especially the one who oppose militarize japan ) patience with all this NK nuke treat. China must have foreseen that.
They don't need full militarize japan. Just legalize nuke creation is more than enough to threaten China as region super power. They have technology and ability to build that within the short time if need be + support from US. Why would China want a more powerful Japan?
Against China? I dare them to do so, shit will definitely hit the fan then for them.
Lol, how? Attack? Yeah that will end well for them.