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GameInformer: Yes, Destiny 2 Is Worth Checking Out If You Hated The First Game
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Trogdor1123
Gold Member
It really is good. D1 was crappy to start, d2 isn't and has loads of content.
The article says what he didn't like about Destiny and then describes the extent to which he does like Destiny 2 because of the changes made.
In what way is the article strange?
Niceguydan8
Member
I think it depends on why one hated it.
I think there is room for people that hated it for specific reasons to end up liking the game, while there are others that still won't like the game.
That being said, I think the title is stupid. Of course it's not entirely true either way, so I don't see the point in it.
hemo memo
Gold Member
Pretty much. Especially the progression system. You're always getting better gear or weapon to raise your light level. Playing solo since launch and apart from the public events and PvP it's been mostly a single player experince and overall very great to my surprise because I thought I would get bored playing solo. My friends will buy the game and join later and GAF is here for raids and other stuff.
I've read it , don't see the point if i hated the original game. But if it was just a let down and i liked it in some way i can see people should try it again, i disagree with the article title and still sounds strange to me
The article is basically, "if you hated the game for similar reasons as I did, *list of reasons*, then you might not dislike the sequel because it fixes those things".
It's a sequel that is getting much better reception than the original game. The article is just talking about why, from the vantage point of someone who disliked the original. Again, why is that a strange article? It's not dissimilar to ones I've read from several outlets.
Niceguydan8
Member
Right, but I still think the title kind of sucks. People hate, love, like, dislike, or whatever for a ton of different reasons. The title makes it seem like those that hated it will love it, even though we know that's not necessarily the case.
The article is more than fine, it's a good article in my opinion. The title should have been worded differently.
Well its a "GameInformer Opinion" I just couldn't fit the word opinion in the title
The PvE improvements and all the things to do is definitely a major difference.
Instead of a non-existent story we get an awful one... that's not an improvement.
The progression system is just as broken as ever, it's the slowest linear progression masquerading as a loot game, designed to inevitably render most of the game pointless as it forces you to depend on a small handful of weekly tasks.
They didn't really fix much, but they did a really good job of hiding its shortcomings for the duration of your first power level grind. It's pretty darn witty how much more varied they made the game seem by holding back your access to half of its basic features until the end of its campaign. Whereas in Destiny 1 you got to sample most of what the game had to offer along the way, in Destiny 2 you won't even realize how unrewarding and repetitive things like Strikes are until you're pretty close to reaching the power soft cap.
i never finished the vanilla first game, regardless a friend trying to get me in to the game gift me the expansions and not even than i played the game for more than a few hours, the grinding was just so fucking boring, D2 though, i cant stop playing it, it might look the same, but the small changes sure worked for me, i am actually surprised that even when im working all im thinking is getting home to play the damn game lol, and i am a grown ass man, so take that as wish.
Niceguydan8
Member
I'm not talking about the title of the thread, I'm referring to the title of the article.
Goldenroad
Member
A story that makes you want to see what's going to happen next is better than a story that does not make you want to progress at all. It is definitely an improvement, even if it's just in how the story is told.
AHA-Lambda
Member
This and this.
iRAWRasaurus
Banned
1343 hours wasted on destiny 1, meh no desires or motivations to play destiny 2.
Yes-you've discovered the conspiracy.
Ryouji Gunblade
Member
I want the DLCs to be worth checking out too. Please don't kill this game with poor DLC quality, Bungie.
RecRoulette
Member
I wonder if it's worth checking out if you thought the Year 1 was peak Destiny. Although I bet it will be awhile before folks can answer that.
joe_zazen
Member
If the guy is now a huge destiny fan, maybe he is keen to help get more people playing. Like how some like to stump like a fierce pancake for their favourite game/console here, no conspiracy needed just intense enthusiasm.
Razgriz-Specter
Member
Nope, and the story even has moments where it seems like its about to but then doesn't.
Have you read this thread at least. There are plenty of people me included that support the premise of the article.
Freeman76
Member
Until you realise "all the things to do' really dont amount to much of anything. Great game, huge missed opportunity longevity wise.
That could be said about any video game article ever published
JigglesBunny
Banned
Yeah, this article is the truth. Like many have said already, D1 was one of the biggest disappointments all generation but I caught the bug with D2 and haven't been able to put it down since launch.
Bungie really stepped it up.
Bungie really stepped it up.
EVA UNIT 01
Member
Didn't hate D1.
I jumped in at TTK and liked what was on offer-but after raiding a few times I just didnt find enough to bring me back.
D2 has me pretty hooked and now that I'm finishing the campaign I'm grinding strikes(my fave part of destiny) to get raid ready.
In short D2 isn't a different game it's just vastly refined and tedium is ironed out.
I'm so pleased by it I'll be selling my ps4 copy come Oct and going all in on PC expansions and all
I jumped in at TTK and liked what was on offer-but after raiding a few times I just didnt find enough to bring me back.
D2 has me pretty hooked and now that I'm finishing the campaign I'm grinding strikes(my fave part of destiny) to get raid ready.
In short D2 isn't a different game it's just vastly refined and tedium is ironed out.
I'm so pleased by it I'll be selling my ps4 copy come Oct and going all in on PC expansions and all
I didn't HATE Destiny 1 but it got old and I skipped out on the expansions. I felt base Destiny 2 was better after I finished the single player campaign but I probably wont play any of the expansions, to many games to play and I feel Destiny requires a large time commitment especially when you have to join groups. Big improvement by bungie
I think D2 is the better game but its ultimately the same game at its core and the changes are not transformative so I'm struggling with how a person who couldn't deal with end game grind of D1 would be happier with the end game grind of D2 which for better or worse is the meat of the game.
Goldenroad
Member
The point is that most people didn't make it to the end game of D1 because it was not fun enough to justify getting there, whereas, even if I get to the end game of D2 and quit because I don't like grinding, that is still significantly more hours of enjoyment than I ever got out of D1.
funkystudent
Member
It has a lot of the same problems but at least the actual content is of a higher quality and a bit more reminiscent of Halo at times.
If you hated Destiny 1 because the story was bad and the missions boring maybe D2 is for you
If you hated Destiny 1 because of the structure, the grind, the repeating levels, the short amount of content and nagging feeling you can literally see holes where DLC will go.
It very much feels like "what if the TTK guys had 2 years instead of 1"
Its good. But yeah, its still Destiny. That end game is for very specific people who can put up with a lot of BS.
If you hated Destiny 1 because the story was bad and the missions boring maybe D2 is for you
If you hated Destiny 1 because of the structure, the grind, the repeating levels, the short amount of content and nagging feeling you can literally see holes where DLC will go.
It very much feels like "what if the TTK guys had 2 years instead of 1"
Its good. But yeah, its still Destiny. That end game is for very specific people who can put up with a lot of BS.
TBH, I think Destiny 2 is just people getting used to Destiny. I think if Destiny 2 came out first, people would still have the same problems with it.
I think there's still a lack of story in Destiny 2, there's just no grimore cards anymore so it's basically addition by subtraction. But the story is still a headscratcher, and there's no excuse for it being the way it is for such a big IP. I mean, the first time I saw humans in Destiny 2 I was like, "there's humans in Destiny?" I thought it was just robots with souls from fallen warriors or something. It's dumb to begin with, but it needs some other stuff - comics, books, video shorts or something - that makes people care more about it. It needs to be humanized, for lack of a better term.
And the light is still a stupid way to measure character progression. I wish it were more like Borderlands with character levels and then loot which augments in some way. But I also admit the light progression in Destiny 2 feels better - I feel like I'm a higher light at this point than I was in Destiny 1.
Point-to-point I was still getting lost in 2 as I was in 1, but I got it okay after a while.
But to sum it up, I think if you didn't play Destiny 1, you'll still have a lot of the same problems with Destiny 2.
I think there's still a lack of story in Destiny 2, there's just no grimore cards anymore so it's basically addition by subtraction. But the story is still a headscratcher, and there's no excuse for it being the way it is for such a big IP. I mean, the first time I saw humans in Destiny 2 I was like, "there's humans in Destiny?" I thought it was just robots with souls from fallen warriors or something. It's dumb to begin with, but it needs some other stuff - comics, books, video shorts or something - that makes people care more about it. It needs to be humanized, for lack of a better term.
And the light is still a stupid way to measure character progression. I wish it were more like Borderlands with character levels and then loot which augments in some way. But I also admit the light progression in Destiny 2 feels better - I feel like I'm a higher light at this point than I was in Destiny 1.
Point-to-point I was still getting lost in 2 as I was in 1, but I got it okay after a while.
But to sum it up, I think if you didn't play Destiny 1, you'll still have a lot of the same problems with Destiny 2.
Is this hypothetical or your actual experience? Beating the campaign in both doesn't take a lot of time if its all you're interesting in doing then my recommendation would be wait for a deep discount or not bother at all.
The Bookerman
Member
If I hated the gameplay loop of Destiny 1, the endless stream of shooting enemies while the ghost scans stuff, will I like Destiny 2?
Cause personally, from the demo's and quick looks I've seen, there's nothing that encourages me.
Cause personally, from the demo's and quick looks I've seen, there's nothing that encourages me.
There is more platforming sections to pace the game better and much less scanning sections. The missions design and combat encounters are so much better than Vanilla Destiny 1.
If you are talking encounter design, there's very little "scan this, stand and shoot stuff while adds spawn in". That was a lot of the content in vanilla Destiny due to 1) limited tools, and 2) limited space in the destinations to build encounters around. And probably due to the story reboot/gutting, as well.
Destiny 2 solves all three of those problems. There are a few defensive stands but they tend to be much more interesting than what D1 offered. The encounters tend to be much larger and more varied, covering a much larger amount of territory. The core shooting mechanics are pretty much the same, but surrounding content is very different.
Crazy Diamond
Member
Why does GameInformer get his own thread? 😡
katsubento
Member
Prob because Angry Joe gets one too.
Goldenroad
Member
Actual experience. You can read my other posts. By this time in D1 I had checked out whereas I'm on the second planet in D2 (which i never made it to in D1) and I can't wait to get home and play more. You shouldn't tell other people how they should spend their money btw.
not going tinfoil hat here but it is kind of... off.
fundamental gameplay loop is still there. which is fine, but you "hated" it before and this is what makes you take a 180? er... okay
Maddocks
Member
The best thing I like about Destiny 2 over 1 is it doesn't feel like a grind fest. It has grinding no doubt, but I never feel like I'm halted in my level. For Destiny 1, there where times I was at 1 light level for a week or so before getting another thing needed to push myself over a limit. This just flows better.
