If you get XP for exploring the island, that's great. I'd rather it not be on the nose whilst playing, but alas.
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Tomb Raider Game Informer details
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She's a 20 years old in an insland alone trying to survive, where the hell do you see the female-in-peril tropes? Wanna bet she will be badass at the end of the game?
There's no Adam here, people saying it's like Other M are out of their minds.
XANDER CAGE
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Because the trailer showed nothing about the open-world aspects of the game. People can only judge pieces of marketing based on what they're shown, just like how people were incredibly wary of Hitman before yesterday's gameplay video actually showed everyone what the game was like.
We'd heard that Tomb Raider was going to be open-world before, but all of the videos, including the E3 conference gameplay video, showed otherwise. You can't blame people for calling things as they see 'em.
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disappeared
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Can Lara climb trees? Have they said anything like that?
SolidSnakex
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They describe a scene where Lara climbs a tree to get the bow, but i'm not sure if it's a cutscene or gameplay.
i guess it makes for more interesting platforming.
No she can fly
Whoa. Does that dude have wooden peg legs?
Prbably like Batman: AA. Wouldn't be surprised if this new TR owes more to that game than Uncharted
Hot Coldman
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That sounds like a god-damn video-game-ass video game. Exciting.
Air steering sounds weird though
Air steering sounds weird though
it looks more like the legs are in the same state as the arms: only bones and skin left.
Ya, I'm getting a mostly MGS3 vibe from this game. Which is not to say its a bad thing.
Majmun
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Well, the Guardian of Light also used a EXP-like system. And we all know how you could get the most EXP...
Don't want to sound pessimistic. But earning EXP in games usually means you'll have to kill a lot of stuff. Sure, you'll earn XP by hunting down animals or discovering new places. But I'm just being sceptical about this whole EXP thing for now...
Don't want to sound pessimistic. But earning EXP in games usually means you'll have to kill a lot of stuff. Sure, you'll earn XP by hunting down animals or discovering new places. But I'm just being sceptical about this whole EXP thing for now...
marathonfool
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From previous articles, I believe they hired someone to refine the aiming system. Older Tomb Raider games had plenty of shooting that broke up the platforming elements. It didn't detract or add much to the game except to add some atmosphere and pacing (T-Rex). If this game has good aiming mechanics and enemies, I can see it as complementary to the platforming and puzzles.
Do you want a cookie? All they showed was pretty linear cinematic gameplay. The E3 demo last year was almost on rails too, full of QTEs. People had good reason to be afraid. They still do IMO because nothing has been shown yet. Are we suddenly going to trust previews now, especially from Game Informer? Footage is the only answer.
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If the tree-climbing is an actual element of the game then I'd be practically sold. Being able to scale nearly every obstacle on the island would be a huge feature. Not many games have accomplished that.
Even then, I wouldn't expect much until the end of this year when they're closer to release. I think Deus Ex: Human Revolution showed poorly last E3, but once they had more hands on time with it (and the demo leak) people could see better how it was supposed to play.
I think the E3 demo will have a larger play area, but probably not a lot to do in it. It may assuage fears that its a linear QTE fest, but probably not enough substance to get a good feel where the game is actually going.
And how should you "speed her up/down". Lara Croft with turbo boost? And how would that work within 3D?
And I thought it was supposed to be realistic. How would such control be realistic?
MuddyDonut
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So is the platforming automated or ...?
I like the platforming in the old Tomb Raiders, made me feel all good inside when I made a jump.
I like the platforming in the old Tomb Raiders, made me feel all good inside when I made a jump.
Hot Coldman
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The ridiculous degree of air control sounds kinda great actually, in a dumb way.
Elginer
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You and me buddy!
Sounds great. It's got quite a bit of potential if they do allow minor direction/distance changes after you jump. I doubt it will be a cartoony super meat boy type of deal. Gameplay > Realism for me.
Though, if they do make the platforming more challenging, I wonder what will they do to make these sections more "accessible" for the casual crowd.
Also, I don't know what "Dynamic Traversal" means. In Underworld, the PR speak had "dynamic free climbing", which turned out to be super small and trivial rock climbing bits where the directional stick allowed you to move between handholds (instead of the usual ledge hopping).
Though, if they do make the platforming more challenging, I wonder what will they do to make these sections more "accessible" for the casual crowd.
Also, I don't know what "Dynamic Traversal" means. In Underworld, the PR speak had "dynamic free climbing", which turned out to be super small and trivial rock climbing bits where the directional stick allowed you to move between handholds (instead of the usual ledge hopping).
from OP:
- You'll be able to air steer, direction control, speed her up/down during jumps
it's probably different than before but it won't be autmoated
thank you... so...
i found some concept art with
some monsters silent-hill-look like
Do you know something? O_O
Yeah, brings back some bad Angel of Darkness memories.
Considering that they specifically mention the "air control" I assume that it will not be automated.
The very first concept arts that leaked few years ago (when the game wasn't even announced) were showing them. It's a Tomb Raider game, so it's not really weird that at some point in the game
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I forgot that applying logic and critical thinking to a situation is frowned upon.
If previews say a game is open world/semi open world (and why would I have any reason to distrust GI? "OMG GS?!" Please.), then you see a trailer designed to excite the senses and show off Lara as a character, and then from there you decide that it is a "linear Uncharted clone", you're an idiot. Sorry.
All the trailers for Far Cry 3 don't show anything about its open world nature either, but I know differently so I accept that, instead of saying "it seh coridour shoota!!!!"
Same with many many many games out there. Not showing open world features in a game trailer is common. For one, it is not exciting to watch, and secondly, it is hard to do effectively in a trailer.
TL;DR, use your freaking common sense.
The very first concept arts that leaked few years ago (when the game wasn't even announced) were showing them. It's a Tomb Raider game, so it's not really weird that at some point in the gameappearsuper-natural things
thanks!
The very first time Far Cry 3 was announced it had a short but open demo, so you'd look pretty stupid if you said that. For what it's worth I was not one of the people bashing Tomb Raider because I knew it was semi-open from the start, but I would never take Game Informer's word for it nor do I necessarily even believe they know the difference between open and semi-open gameplay.
marathonfool
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But I want to whine about incomplete trailers and extrapolate them to full games. Then blame the developer for leading me to conclusions based on marketing trailers that show off new features and ideas that will attract new fans to old franchises then later reveal the legacy gameplay artifacts to said new fans. It's like they are holding me hostage with all these text developer interviews I can't trust and forcing me to think these teasers as the real game.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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Stuff in the OP sounds good.
The Praiseworthy
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I've had my doubts.... but not anymore
BRING IT ON
BRING IT ON
Everything sounds great. A nice new direction for Lara. I like it being an origin and her not being like the Lara we all remember either.
Gotta break her down to let her rise a new.
The above though sounds weird to me. especially air steering
shinobi602
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Wow, sounds amazing.
Trailers have looked incredible so far. Really looking forward to it.
Trailers have looked incredible so far. Really looking forward to it.
XOMTOR
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Why though? Now I have to micro-manage my Lara? Just drop me in some big open level and let me figure things out for myself.
SpacePirate Ridley
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Still sounds more metroid to me than uncharted.
I hope the game turns awesome.
I hope the game turns awesome.
As long as it's just on some Batman Arkham Asylum level I wont mind.