sixteen-bit
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That's a shame. Great actor.
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Michael K. Williams off the Han Solo movie due to reshoots
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badcrumble
Member
I think it's a near certainty that the release date is probably more important to this project than the actual end quality of the film itself
TheSecondSpitter
Member
Sgt. Kabukiman
Banned
My interest level was already at zero so... It's a bummer but it doesn't change much for me.
Lol, I was about to post the exact same thing.
Lol, I was about to post the exact same thing.
Vigilant Walrus
Member
This performance is in the top 10 of all time for me by a male actor. Years after watching the Wire, this character totally defy belief. Everything about him was just jaw dropping. Amazing character!
lol yup
shira
Member
I don't. Harrison Ford is Han Solo. There is no reason for this movie to exist.
Tal Shiar Agent
Member
This is the most unnecessary movie in a long time.
TheDinoman
Member
They seriously need to cut their losses and cancel this project. No one is asking for this.
BoogieWoogie
Banned
Just scrap the whole thing for fuck sake. We can go a year without a Star Wars movie.
Disney has invested a lot cash at this point, they aren't canceling.
If the series survived the prequels, they will survive this.
That's a shame about MKW, I was really looking forward to Omar in Space.
True Savior
Member
Just give it back to Lucas.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Who knows, it might be an easy cut to make. Not really that indictive of the quality of the movie or the extent of the reshoot changes since we don't know how important the character is to the story.
For example, Rogue was mostly cut out of X-Men: Days of Future Past. And despite it changing the runtime of the movie by almost 20 mins, it adds nothing to the central story.
The guy who wanted to have Han Solo as a kid on the Wookiee planet? How about nooooooooooo.
I don't think they expected that they would be firing directors and hiring new one at home stretch of production.
bonesmccoy
Banned
Not sure what's funnier: The disaster that was L&M or people writing off this film because a (fringe) actor's small part got cut lol
OG Shaka Zulu
Member
He was too street to voice an Ewok elder.
Username1198
Member
Williams was amazing in The night of
If you haven't seen it, see it!
If you haven't seen it, see it!
True, but they would have anticipated a certain amount of reshoots would be necessary. This is like the Cavill story again.
I just don't understand how big projects like this can seem so hard for studios to make. It's a Han Solo film; you could write a decent one using a leftover Indiana Jones script and some duct tape. Maybe I'm completely ignorant to the film-making process, maybe making a classic schlock adventure flick is as difficult and time-consuming as a three hour history-spanning epic, but I don't know.
Skinny Pete
Banned
Man fuck this. I want an Omar jedi warrior solo flick now Disney!!
TheSecondSpitter
Member
I can't wait to find out where Han Solo bought his navy and red stripe pants from.
Credit: RLM
DeviantBoi
Member
So he was important enough for the plot that they needed him for reshoots, but at the same time so unnecessary that they're okay with cutting him completely out of the story?
Yeah, okay...
Yeah, okay...
QuantumBro
Banned
Doesn't Disney realize that money would be better spent bribing critics than improving the quality of the film?
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
DIdn't know he got an Emmy nom for The Night Of
he was fucking brilliant in that.
he was fucking brilliant in that.
hydragonwarrior
Member
What if the show Iron Man as a surprise cameo in the movie.
Elegant Weapon
Member
Omar seemed to be directed by the rule of cool. He was too badass but I loved it.
The problem with the movie wasn't the script, it was the coinflict between the directors and producer.
You have my attention.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
What losses are you talking about?
How is this even remotely a plausible (much less possible) scenario you're advocating for here?
80% of the film was in the can before the directors got bounced. They got Ron Howard to do the remaining 20%, plus some to bondo in the gaps.
What losses are so grievous (hey, heyyyyyyyy get what I did the—
that they'd need to just eat the 150-200mil they're gonna spend to put it up onscreen? Especially considering it's basically a guarantee they're going to clear 300mil domestic with it.
(Really curious what kind of interesting-yet-disposable sort of thing Williams was playing, though)
……forgetit
Member
Ah, I see. Still, though, it's baffling how many times Hollywood comes into so much difficulty with these types of projects.
Gentleman Jack
Member
It's why they hired Howard in the first place.
So yes.
But this is a big loss to the team, so yeah readjust them expectations.
I dunno, I feel like they set a date, build stuff and oh wait this script is unfinished/shit, carry on anyway. Rogue One was kinda good and bad but you could tell they were flying on the seat of their pants and I have to ask why these films are made like that. Even the Force Awakens was bit hollow and rushed. It's odd. Why can't they write a good story and script then start filming?
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Almost all big-budget blockbusters are made like this now. Which sucks, absolutely, because setting a date before you have a finished screenplay (and not a finished first draft, but a finished screenplay, ready to shoot) seems like one of the most backwards way to get your story solid, but over the last 15-20 years, it's become the method of production.
It probably has a lot to do with the general lack of value assigned to screenwriting as a profession in general. If nobody gives a fuck about the writers, and everyone figures anyone can write, then there's no reason to put any importance on getting that aspect right first. Someone else will just work for the scraps they're tossing to get the shit right when everyone inevitably discovers that shit isn't working the way anyone wants.
It's not just a Star Wars thing. It's a film industry thing in general. Big four-quadrant people-pleasing tentpoles are made with a lot of elements carrying priority over the story, and the people in charge of making it work on the page.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
You'll get that Ben movie even if this disappoints.
If anything, getting Daldry to spearhead the thing tells me Lucasfilm is already looking to make something smaller/cheaper, with none of the weird conflicts between writer/director/producer that has dogged the other two spinoffs (three if you wanna count the stillborn Fett movie)
SketchTheArtist
Member
I remember hearing that most of the script of Iron Man 1 was figured out day by day, on the morning of each shoot. People just sat down and worked out what they would do and say in each scene before they did it, and then it was all cut into a movie afterwards.
That sounds fucking insane to me and it obviously worked out for that movie, but god damn is that a stupid and ridiculously reckless way to make a movie.